The fact that Michelle "I hate myself because I'm Asian" Malkin is in that clip already discredits this piece.
The Fact that it is Fake Network is par for the course.
smoothie
· 1 year ago
They'll release a statement, but dont look for Fox to apologize. The last to horrible Fox attempts at humore (Obama/Osama, and Fist Jabbing Terrorist) are the last time they play it safe.
Im convinced Fox is doing all of this purposly to paint the Obamas as sensitive on race. I say again, once Barack is POTUS, thats the VERY FIRST CHANNEL, I want to turn to.
Anonymous
· 1 year ago
It's faulty reasoning to argue, "Black people invented the term 'baby mama', so it is no big deal to use such a term when discussing a prominent black woman." Of course, the term was meant as a term of disparagement or comedy, not used by serious people. By analogy, a lot of Jews in legal circles or Hollywood use the term "the head Heeb." Somehow, I suspect Fox would not write that term on screen when referring to a prominent Jewish person.
- KXB
Webb
· 1 year ago
Even Joe Scarborough was indignant about this "BabyMama" Bullshyt on his show this morning.
Rhonda
· 1 year ago
First of all, please know that I know that Michelle Malkin is terrible, hateful and wrong most of the time. Also, please know that I know that Fox News is terrible, hateful, and wrong most of the time.
I think given Fox's track record and in context of all the other statements that were posted at the bottom of the screen, they have no intention of showing respect for Michelle Obama for a number of reasons.
That said, what came immediately to mind as I read this entry is the fact that Mrs. Obama introduced her husband as her "baby's daddy" on a national stage when he was first elected to Senate. Now, this is not necessarily a justification, but I think that should be noted because it will no doubt be quoted in their defense/apology (if they bother making one).
Anonymous
· 1 year ago
I don't even know what to say. I shouldn't be stunned but I am. And the excuse Malkin keeps on using on how Michelle O once introduced her husband by saying "my baby's daddy," so this makes it okay to call her a baby mama.
What are we going to do? There needs to be some sort of collective action. How many baby mamas does Murdoch, Limbaugh, Ailes et al have between them?
Town
· 1 year ago
That said, what came immediately to mind as I read this entry is the fact that Mrs. Obama introduced her husband as her "baby's daddy" on a national stage when he was first elected to Senate. Now, this is not necessarily a justification, but I think that should be noted because it will no doubt be quoted in their defense/apology (if they bother making one). --------------
That's exactly the defense they will use.
What they are doing is twofold:
a) attack Michelle (and the children will be next***) to get under Barack's skin to knock him off message
b) ghettoize Michelle to suggest to the American public, "Do you really want Sheniqua/Omarosa in the White House?"
***I believe they are going to attack the Obama girls, but not directly. I expect a bunch of negative stories about black children and I expect black women's sexuality to be discussed as well.
I wouldn't be surprised if they did a "news report" on the treatment of black women in rap and how slang terms are accepted in general "black" society and showed repeated loops of black women grinding and gyrating in a split screen with Michelle, while a panel discusses whether "baby mama" is an appropriate term to label Michelle with or not.
bourgieadventures
· 1 year ago
I'm going to vomit. I mean... HONESTLY? REALLY? "Baby mama?" I can't even form a coherent response right now. I'm just outraged at how easily and routinely the MSM and America in general disrespects Black women.
Mac G
· 1 year ago
Fox News means it in a derogatory way or they would not be using it. It is hard to fathom ignorance as their excuse or Michelle called him baby daddy once.
Admiral Komack
· 1 year ago
rhonda:
"That said, what came immediately to mind as I read this entry is the fact that Mrs. Obama introduced her husband as her "baby's daddy" on a national stage when he was first elected to Senate. Now, this is not necessarily a justification, but I think that should be noted because it will no doubt be quoted in their defense/apology (if they bother making one)."
-Fine.
So if I (or anyone else) calls Cindy McCain a c**t, I better not hear any complaints from Fox and their minions, because John McCain called his wife that name IN PUBLIC.
What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
miss-opinion
· 1 year ago
So if I (or anyone else) calls Cindy McCain a c**t, I better not hear any complaints from Fox and their minions, because John McCain called his wife that name IN PUBLIC.--
Thank you for that. But in all fairness I'm already calling her that.
LOL J/K
Nice to see that the "feminists" view abuse of other women as justified punishment. These women have a few thousand screws lose. First, you're a discredit to your gender because you used your brain to vote instead of your vagina and now because Sen. Clinton lost anything racist or gender discrimination heeped on Michelle Obama is justified because she is married to the "black male."
And they say that the right is wrong about feminists. I think they were right on the money.
Anonymous
· 1 year ago
BTW - will anyone call John McCain a gold-digger, since he left his crippled first wife for the younger and wealthier Cindy?
- KXB
justice58
· 1 year ago
Mercy Mercy Mercy!
Something has to be done to stop Fox News! If not, it will only escalate to even more repulsiveness! It's time to draw the line...NOW!
Tova
· 1 year ago
@anonymous - I bet if the Obamas were Jewish we'd hear references to Michelle as a JAP. Or a yenta.
Racism and sexism are a powerful combo, and it's important to recognize, untangle and dismantle them both.
s
· 1 year ago
I think the caption writer at Fox was ignorant or making a lame attempt to be 'hip.'
As noted earlier on this blog, much of black culture becomes filtered down into mainstream culture, 'daps', 'bling' et al. Most non-blacks who use these terms have little or no idea of the etymology of these phrases.
From “A Brief History of baby-daddies” published in Slate Magazine two years ago:
Celebrity gossips are not known for their contributions to English letters. In tabloids, the copy is breathless, the headlines are stunningly literal, and the “hand-written” photo captions seem to toggle between “Awww!” and “Ew!” But as they zero in on celebrity mating and breeding rituals, the magpies keep breaking new linguistic ground. First they imported the British term bump, a noun used to refer to the protruding abdomen of a pregnant starlet. Then they awarded celebrity couples mash-up nicknames like “Bennifer,” “Brangelina,” and “TomKat.” Now they’ve seized upon baby-daddy and baby-mama, two useful terms that have long appeared in hip-hop and R&B; lyrics, and are slowly stripping them of their emotional fangs.
The Oxford English Dictionary defines baby-daddy as “the father of a woman’s child, who is not her husband or (in most cases) her current or exclusive partner.” The baby-mama entry follows the same template with the genders reversed. But some gossip writers have been adopting the first part of the definition and ignoring the second. Salon recently called Tom Cruise “Katie Holmes’ baby-daddy,” even though the couple is engaged. And Gawker refers to Keven Federline as “Britney Spears’ baby-daddy,” even though the couple has been married for more than a year.
…These days, the terms no longer seem “chiefly African-American”—they’re everywhere, the latest bits of hip-hop lingo to gain widespread use. Baby-daddy is the new bling. Online, you can buy “Jesus is my baby-daddy” magnets, tote bags, and beer steins. There is a drink called the “babymama.” Scott Hoffman, the bassist for the glam rock band the Scissors Sisters, goes by the stage name “Babydaddy.” Some of this cultural paraphernalia retains the old, loaded sense of the term: You can, for example, download a “Salty Baby Mama” ringtone so that when people call, your phone will jangle and thrum while a woman’s voice says, “Baby, I know you hear this damn phone ringing. I’m going to beat your ass, as soon as I see you.” But just as often, the connotations are strictly biological. Baby-mama has even made inroads in Japan, where it’s being used on a Web site that appears to sell strollers.
Who knows why these terms became catchphrases? Perhaps it’s just that they’re metrically pleasing: Baby-mama and baby-daddy are undeniably fun to say. But it’s the novelty factor that explains how the words lost their negative connotations. Sure, there are many gossip writers who still use the terms in their original senses (calling dancer Carlos Leon “Madonna’s baby-daddy,” for example) because they’re useful, reducing a complex chain of possessives—Madonna’s daughter’s father—to a nice, comprehensible noun. But it seems there are also plenty of writers who just like the way the words sound and don’t care much about the stigma once attached to babydaddyhood. When news came last week that Anna Nicole Smith may be pregnant, it was no surprise that bloggers immediately began speculating about the identity of the “baby daddy.” It may be a long time before you hear a quaint, old-fashioned “Who’s the dad?”
Given the current mainstream usage and how it has devolved from something shameful into something 'cute' to be slapped on a t-shirts and strollers, it is difficult to see how this is such a big deal.
Again, knee-jerk reactions of racism will backfire. Calling Michelle Obama, Obama's baby mama is hardly any more offensive than calling Cindy McCain, McCain's 'pill-popping piece on the side.
This is being blown up into a big deal to keep black folks from ever voting Republican. Nothing more.
Rhonda
· 1 year ago
@admiral:
Just to clarify, I just wanted to note that because I hadn't seen it mentioned in any of the blogs, and I KNOW someone on the other side is going to bring it up.
I am no fan of the "goose/gander" argument because as far as I'm concerned its shows an incredible amount of intellectual laziness--a fundamental ignorance about difference and the dynamics of power in this country.
Anonymous
· 1 year ago
And just think FAUX NEWS is slated to provide convention pool coverage for the Democratic Convention. Why,OH WHY should the the DNC allow Faux's name on anything, after they have acted as a propaganda mouthpiece for the Republican party and constantly smear the Obama campaign. What can be done to stop this?
Your reasoning is faulty. First, you really don't need to explain to black people where a black slang term originated.
Second, now that we know what "baby mama" means, why in the world would that be applied to a woman who was married before she began having children?
HOW in the world could that be applied to a woman who had her children within wedlock?
Would Cindy McCain be described as a "baby mama?" Laura Bush?
Maybe if Fox Noise were a comedy channel, calling Michelle "Barack's baby mama" would be more acceptable. But this is allegedly a news organization, and calling a candidate's wife, who had her children within wedlock a "baby mama" is inappropriate.
So, if it's not a big deal, there shouldn't be any problem putting a picture of Cindy McCain on the screen with "John's JumpOff" as the caption?
RhondaCoca
· 1 year ago
"As noted earlier on this blog, much of black culture becomes filtered down into mainstream culture, 'daps', 'bling' et al. Most non-blacks who use these terms have little or no idea of the etymology of these phrases. "
1. I will correct you by telling you to say "hip-hop culture" and not black culture. Hip-hop being a black form of music (when I want it to be) has developed its own culture and is more of a division of black culture mixed in now with more mainstream elements than black culture itself, which is diverse and nuanced. When people think of hip-hop culture as black culture, you get people who walk up to my straight laced 55 year old father going "What up dog!", "I'm feelin da bling" etc...and it can be demeaning. Trust me! Non-blacks do this crap! I don't know if they are joking, trying to be demeaning and condescending or simply ignorant.
Also, they do fist bumps at sporting events and even in beer commericals. I am confused as to why people think only black people do it or are so fascinated with it.
As for Fox News creating a headline about Obama's "Baby Mama", I really am not shocked. If you go online, you see all kinds of things written about Michelle. Fox is nothing more than propaganda. I cannot watch Fox without getting chest pain. They get away some of the most blatant racism.
I also really hate Michelle Malkin!
I also wanted to say, Hi Rhonda! We have the same name=)
justice58
· 1 year ago
"Your reasoning is faulty. First, you really don't need to explain to black people where a black slang term originated ----------------------------------- S.
Go to hell! You're a stupid moron!
D.
· 1 year ago
Y'all may not like me for this, but.....
It's Fox News. What did you really expect?
Occasionally, they provide good-and somewhat unbiased-information. But sometimes....they're way out there. Hell, I would've expected something along the lines of "Uncle Barack's Cabin" from them before the Germans (course, there's still time....).
What this goes back to is making comments that aren't smart-again. Someone should've told Michelle not to call her husband her "baby daddy" in public. That's damn near license for everyone to say it (and yeah, that standard applies to McCain as well. I haven't actually heard him call his wife a c--t, but I've heard enough about it on the left and right to believe it).
justice58
· 1 year ago
d,
" Someone should've told Michelle not to call her husband her "baby daddy" in public. ----------------------------------- That's a sorry ass excuse you're giving there!
No one would dare refer to Laura Bush, Barbara Bush or Nancy Reagan as baby mama! You're spewing raw BS! Dammit!
D.
· 1 year ago
Justice, It's not an excuse.
The Obamas are new to the political spectrum-where EVERYTHING that's said is open to interpretation and spin.
I've tried-and, by my own admission, occasionally failed-not to blame Michelle for some of the things she's said. I take a bigger issue for someone not prepping her on what NOT to say.
And Laura/Barbara Bush or Nancy Reagan didn't say that about their husbands....did they?
Tova
· 1 year ago
I believe "S" was quoting an article in Slate that appeared two years ago. Language morphs, right? That's how it works.
Maybe it's nerdy of me to care about words, and maybe I have a lot of chutzpah to kvetch about it here and I shouldn't be kibbitzing, but it hardly makes a person a putz for using words that started in a different culture.
Being ignorant of their meaning and origin, or using them to demean people from the culture of origin is another matter altogether. To that I say, "Feh! That's not kosher"
scruncher
· 1 year ago
Don't know if the campaign will be addressing this type of stuff here, but Obama's web site now has a section called "Fight the Smears":
Boo ph*cking hoo. If Michelle Obama doesn't want to be a "target", she shouldn't go running around making countless stump speeches and saying she's never had any reason to be proud of America until Hubby ran for president.
She's supposed to be "off limits" just because Barry says so? ("Now go out and make some more speeches about how awful America is, sweetie. If they criticize you. I'll just call them racists").
Oh, and now I see we're all indignant and sh*t, demanding "respect" for a sister. Too funny. Look at all the garbage and "bro before ho" crap that's been posted here about "bitch" Hillary 24/7 for the past 9 months.
Karma's a bitch, ain't it...
Hypocrites.
justice58
· 1 year ago
anon 8:33,
Oh Look, anon 8:33 is just another bitter bitch that supported Hillary & she lost!
This whining brought to you by the same mouth breathers and professional victims that relentlessly attacked Hillay's spouse during the Dem primary for being a "racist". Guess it was ok to attack the spouse in that context. LOL. And what did Bill do again to cause such outrage? Oh, yeah. Back in Iowa, he referred to 1/2 term senator Obama as a "kid". The shrieks of "racism" were widespread and immediate.
justice58
· 1 year ago
anon 8:47
ahahahahahahahaha
Hillary didn't win! Get over it!
Afrodite
· 1 year ago
"FAUX NEWS ONCE AGAIN PROVING WHY THEY ARE THE SKID MARKS ON THE UNDERPANTS OF SOCIETY"
So what should they call McCain's Wife?
"John's Med addicted, charity stealin, plastic surgery addicted trollop?" (McCain called Cindy a trollop his damn self)
This is really crazy considering how long the Obama's have been married... and even more ridiculous when you think about the horror that is McCain's marriage...everything from the way it started to the fact the he called her the "c" word in public.
The sad part is that everyday she wishes that she was white...she went to Oberlin College (one of the most liberal colleges in the US) and grew up Philly.
She needs to look past her token status (as the only non-white non-blond anchorwomen) on faux news and realize that all ppl of color are one and the same through the eyes of any redneck racist
Pamela
· 1 year ago
I found Michelle Mallkin's response on http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/06/12... did not write the caption and I was not aware of it when it ran (the Baltimore studio doesn’t have a monitor). I don’t know if the caption writer was making a lame attempt to be hip, clueless about the original etymology of the phrase, or both. But I do know that it was Michelle Obama herself who referred to Barack as her “baby’s daddy” and has used the phrase “baby daddy” to describe Barack while on the stump this year.
Here’s how she introduced him during his Senate victory speech on Nov. 2, 2004:
MICHELLE OBAMA, WIFE OF BARACK OBAMA: My baby’s daddy Barack Obama. Yeah!
And as someone posted upthread it's Babies' Daddy not Baby's Daddy
miss-opinion
· 1 year ago
I love how she can be so bigoted and be a minority herself.
Talk about self hate.
Ian McCullough
· 1 year ago
Scalzi, over at the Whatever blog, has a nice take: http://scalzi.com/whatever/?p=870 Red meat for Malkin haters.
Symphony
· 1 year ago
I don't know what FOX News' excuse would be, or if they will bother to have one.
But free advise, don't use the: "Well, she called Barack Obama her babies' daddy." excuse. You're a news organization, not a satire TV show or comedy channel.
Anonymous posters, Michelle Malkin or whomever want to bring that up, whatever, but not a news organization.
Admiral Komack
· 1 year ago
justice58: "anon 8:33,"
"Oh Look, anon 8:33 is just another bitter bitch that supported Hillary & she lost!"
"Boo-f-ing hoo! Take that mofo!"
-Hey, now!
Of course anon 8:33 is bitter. Dodging Bosnian sniper fire will do that to you...as far as I know.
Sepia
· 1 year ago
Why am I not surprised S & D would defend this? If given a chance, they'd rationalize slavery as simply a way for plantation owners to save on overhead.
D.
· 1 year ago
Sepia, I didn't think what I said came off as defending Fox News.....?
Rowdy
· 1 year ago
I wonder what would happen if someone referred to Michelle Malkin as a "China Doll"?
Anonymous
· 1 year ago
Why not just call it a "Fox News Moolie Alert, brought to you by token slope Michelle Malkin alongside drunken mick Bill O'Reilly?"
- KXB
BigAssBelle
· 1 year ago
the anonymouses (anonymi? ;-) ) are everywhere today . . i got this one on my blog from an anonymous after posting about this faux news outrage:
This seems like a knee-jerk reaction to me. I had no idea the phrase even ever had any racial connotations to it. Language evolves. Phrases and their meanings change. It's pretty clear from pop culture that that's the case here. Fox was dumb to use it, of course, but overreaction is just as bad considering:
-Michelle Obama herself who referred to Barack as her “baby’s daddy” and has used the phrase “baby daddy” to describe Barack while on the stump this year. (Senate victory speech, Nov. 2, 2004)
-The Oxford English Dictionary defines baby-daddy as “the father of a woman’s child, who is not her husband or (in most cases) her current or exclusive partner.” The baby-mama entry follows the same template with the genders reversed.
-Online, you can buy “Jesus is my baby-daddy” magnets, tote bags, and beer steins. Scott Hoffman, the bassist for the glam rock band the Scissors Sisters, goes by the stage name “Babydaddy.” Baby-mama has even made inroads in Japan, where it’s being used on a Web site that appears to sell strollers. (Michelle Malkin, "We're going to hell")
I think the first one is what confuses me the most. If Michelle Obama uses the phrase herself to refer to her own family, how can it be offensive?
THAT'S NOT ME. it's just the prevailing attitude out in the world, i fear.
P Waggie
· 1 year ago
The fact that Michelle "I hate myself because I'm Asian" Malkin
I am sorry but I love this quote because it is SOOOOOOO oblivious this woman hates herself. She will throw every other person of color under the bus to look good for Bill O' Reilly. So sad. I am LOL!!!!
smoothie
· 1 year ago
to me its simple.
If the defense is , Well she introduced BARACK has her Baby Daddy, then John McCain has opened a door, that I know most will find just as inviting.
If MSNBC ran C. U. N.ext Tuesday
under an image of Cindy McCain, Im about 99% sure, somebody wouldve got fired. Shuster Factually made mention of Chelsea being pimped out, and was suspended for a week. I doubt Fox takes that severe of an action, b/c frankly, they dont care. If this drives people to watch them more, suspect her to be Target #1 over there.
Kenya W
· 1 year ago
town: you are on to something. I thought the same thing last year. Once Obama announced that he was running. It seemed like every month a high profile black man was being brought down. It was eerie. And yes there will be a lot of "investigative" reporting about young black children and black women. I will be waiting and watching just like you.
dnA
· 1 year ago
D.
I think we can all agree there are forms of communication and behavior that are appropriate between spouses, even in public, that are no appropriate for wider use.
justice58
· 1 year ago
d knows! He's just pretending to be ignorant of the fact!
D.
· 1 year ago
Between spouses, yes.
And that's where they should stay.
That doesn't seem like the case here.
I'm not defending Fox; I have a "not suprising" attitude towards them over this. And I can't really be mad at Michelle either.
It just wasn't a smart thing to say.
D.
· 1 year ago
From Politico:
Since Salon's Alex Koppelman caught Fox News characterizing Michelle Obama as "Obama's Baby Mama," there's been an uproar over use of such an offensive term.
“A producer on the program exercised poor judgment in using this chyron during the segment,” Fox's Senior Vice President of Programming Bill Shine said in a statement to Politico.
Although Shine doesn't name anyone responsible, the show's producer is Jessica Herzberg. A Fox staffer said that others internally were bothered by describing the potential first lady and very accomplished woman — as the senator's "baby mama."
There. Go after her and get her fired.
Anonymous
· 1 year ago
Well, to be fair, Michelle has used the term repeatedly, in interviews, in public, with no apologies.
So regarding Fox's caption or whatever....BFD.
Let's give the "I'm offended. I'm outraged. I'm a victim of this and that" stupidity a rest for 5 minutes every now and then.
Anonymous
· 1 year ago
Allegedly she made the baby daddy comment 7 years ago. Now how old were the children seven years ago; maybe two (the eldest child) or a few weeks old or unborn(the youngest)?
What do you call very young human beings usually around two years or below or even unborn maybe "baby"?!!
The Fox news was trying to imply that black women are sexually "loose", immoral and that all Black women do is have children out of wedlock with different men.
Now we should not have to go there but there are so many problems affecting the U.S. But since they started it here we go:
Let us not forget that John McCain divorced his 1st wife (who was still recovering from the after effects of a debilitating car crash) and married Cindy McCain (blonde and 20 years his junior) one month later... before the ink even dried on the divorce decree.
Was Cindy " dating" while McCain was married? IS that a breach of the marriage vows?
So who has the loose morals? So who has the superior character?
Do the republicans really want to start a "family values or morality" fight?
smoothie
· 1 year ago
anon, 11:11
Well, to be fair, John McCain used the word c*-t with no apologies.
So its ok for us to Call Cindy what John McCain called his wife? I mean, he has used that word before?
RoninBro
· 1 year ago
I am SO SICK and tired of the MSM hating on Blackfolk and blaming hip-hop, urban youths, and ebonics for the decline of everything wholesome- but then turning around and 'imitating' the very thing they criticize!
I have always believed that White America has 'jungle fever' and is in a constant state of denial. They love us, want to be us, have to imitate us, but can't own up to it. It's like they are grade schoolers throwing rocks at the object of their secret affections...
What does Cindy McCain have to do with Fox News refering to Michelle Obama as Barack's "baby mama?"
Go after Fox News all day, but why are we dragging Cindy into this?
P Waggie
· 1 year ago
Rhonda,
I agree with everything in your first comments. As a human being I believe everyone deserves respect. I hate when Blacks are anyone else is disrespected or stereotyped. Just wrong!!! But you can't be a college educated woman and introduce your husband as baby daddy and not get disrespected. I also remember when she did that and cringed. It took awhile for me to liker her after that. I knew what it could cause, and I thought she should have had more class. She nor her mother were baby mamas so why put yourself in that class. Just a thought. Yes it was wrong to call her that, but don't call yourself that first. I don't agree with D, but I think you all are beating him up for no real reason. He is not defending FOX News. I know I am not, but like him I want Mrs. Obama to do better and not call her husband a Baby Daddy. Fox news is wrong wrong wrong, but don't given a reason. No Fox would not do this to Mrs. McCain. I know this but still an educated woman should not call her husband Baby Daddy. Point Blank
smoothie
· 1 year ago
D. I dragged Cindy into it, b/c if the GOP plans to attack spouses, (As this story lead on each and every Cable News Outlet Last Night) then all spouses must be up for grabs. Past and Present. Hence the reason you see people commenting about John McCains First wife and how he dogged her out as well.
The defense that Malkin and Anon 11:11 use is "well shes called Barack her Baby Daddy before, so thats ok."
My logic is,if thats the case, John McCain called his current wife C-*t so that clearly must make it ok.
I get your arguement about Why blame Cindy for the errors of Fox, but as I recall, when John McCain caught fire from the media about Hagee, he made it a POINT to say, I was not a member of his church for 20 yrs nor was he my spiritual advisor, Why was that even relevant to John Mc.? Why didnt he focus his attacks on the media?
D.
· 1 year ago
Smoothie, One, this isn't a GOP attack. I can't even say honestly that this is a right wing attack; hell, my friends on the fringes are laughing at Obama's supporters for going to war over it (don't get me wrong, I understand why people are upset).
I guess my question then becomes, is this really productive?
And yes; the things spouses do-even if they're years in the past, apparently-are fair game. Thing is, though, Cindy didn't do this one.....
smoothie
· 1 year ago
D
Given that Barack and John McCain Differ on so much, no its not productive. But, if the GOP wants to make it an issue (and this story lead on all 3 cable networks) then the real problem lies with them.
The DNC hasnt touched Cindy the way the GOP has touched Michelle. Lets be honest, the only scrutiny she faced was releasing her taxes. (of which she did on a Friday facing a 3 day weekend)
The GOP has made it there attempt every 4 yrs to target the spouse of a Dem. and run with it. Its past pathetic. If the DNC went the low road one time, (ie the C word) youd have Hannity, Limbaugh, the ENTIRE OF FOX and God knows who else calling for reprimands.
Yet they can openly search for a Video that doesnt exist, Take Michelle's comments completly out of context about how she feels about this country, and specifically in Tenn. appeal to there lowest common demonimators by running ads opposite of her appearence...
Clean that GOP filth and maybe a dialogue about issues can actually take place....
D.
· 1 year ago
Smoothie, This one's got nothing to do with the GOP. Hell, I haven't even heard anyone with serious ties to the party even give it a mention.
Where the GOP attacks, then to call them on it is fair. This isn't one of those times.
Kes
· 1 year ago
Michelle never introduced Barack as her "baby-daddy," but as her "baby's daddy," and it was in an introduction where she was talking about all sorts of various aspects of his life. That is NOT the same as referring to somebody as a person's "baby-daddy" or "baby-mama," which is a slang term.
"My baby's daddy" is NOT the same as saying "my baby-daddy."
So this whole argument of "she said it first" is not only trying to compare an affectionate epithet or descriptor given by a spouse with a (heavily racialized) headline on a major 24-hour cable news station - the people who use that argument are depending on her having used a slang term which she never actually used.
Town
· 1 year ago
I felt at the time (and still do) that Michelle introducting Barack as her baby's daddy was crass and low class. I cringed. It was tacky and uncalled for.
That doesn't, IMO, give a news channel license to do the same thing.
As other posters have stated, if it's ok to call Michelle Obama a "baby mama" in the chyron because she called Barack her baby's daddy, then it would also be ok put "C*unt" or "Trollop" in the chyron under Cindy McCain, b/c that's what McCain called his wife in public.
Come on, if they were discussing Carol McCain and Cindy McCain, they would not put "Trollop?" in the chyron under Cindy's picture and if they did, there would be severe consequences and repercussions.
The excuse that "Well Michelle Obama said it first" just doesn't fly with me because I don't think any of the news organizations would have gone there PLUS they were not talking about Michelle and Barack and the girls or the Obama family in general or how Michelle manages motherhood with the rigors of the campaign, they were talking about GOP attacks on Michelle Obama which has nothing to do with Michelle being a mom or being the mother of Barack's children.
TruthSeeker
· 1 year ago
Wow, so many thought-provoking comments! Here's mine:
"Baby's Mama" another on of those delightfull colloquialisms we've gifted to the world...along with "Ho" and "Hoochie".
Then there is Toni, in all her literary might, who got over-heated and anointed the cellulitic, sexual predator, Bill Clinton as "First Black President".
I would like to thank my fellow black people for making my life as a black woman, a bundle of joy.
I can't tell you how fun it is for me when whites take the verbal knife we've placed in their hands, turn around and place it firmly my heart. Shoot, the best thing is when I walk down the street after dark, and men of all ethnicities, and ages try to solicit my company, visions of BET dancing in their heads.
I am perplexed, what is it about me that makes me look like a "ho". Surely, it's not the prim pencil skirt, which falls firmly at my knees. It's not my unremarkable hair, nor is it my locked-down bosom.
Whatever.
I muse idly about it, lamenting the loss of my anonymity. I don't fear muggers here, in Toronto. It is BET that terrorizes me.
It's not cute! Baby Mama isn't cute.
Ho isn't cute.
Honey isn't cute.
Nigga isn't cute.
Crotch shots of bikini clad, black women in rap videos are not cute!
Michelle Obama, I'm here on the sidelines cheering you on - wanting you to win; but, it is not cute to refer to your husband as your Baby's daddy.
I can't find safety, even in the darkness.
D.
· 1 year ago
Truth, God help me; we agree.
TruthSeeker
· 1 year ago
d,
well then, I guess I'm just going to have to re-think my position. ;-)
D.
· 1 year ago
Truth, My friend, that's....oh, forget it.
:-)
Sandra77
· 1 year ago
d, it's apologists like you that make it so hard for me to vote Republican. I cannot trust you or them.
Ms.Martin
· 1 year ago
Truthseeker
I couldn't have said it better myself!
I am surprised that Michelled referred to her husband that way.
Anonymous
· 1 year ago
I'm no fan of Walsh's, but she never said that it served those Obama supporters who were blind to the sexism levied against Clinton right that now FOX news is turning on Michelle Obama.
Honestly, dnA. There's so much real shit to be outraged about, there's no need to make stuff up just so you can keep the hate going and the comments coming against Clinton's white female supporters. Find a new dead horse to beat.
P Waggie
· 1 year ago
Ms. Martin and Truthseeker ya'll are right on the ball. I don't think anyone can answer you Truthseeker. I am sorry you said it WAY better than me. Fox News was wrong but, Michelle shouldn't have referred to her husband as Baby's Daddy. And that explanation of Baby-Daddy and Baby's Daddy was lame! That is the same thing changed grammatically. Get real.
D.
· 1 year ago
Cause some of y'all seem confused:
1. Fox News fucked up.
2. Michelle made a dumb statement-again.
I'm not apologizing/defending either. In their own respective ways, they're both wrong.
TruthSeeker
· 1 year ago
Ms.martin & p waggie,
It is frustrating, isn't it? Of course Fox is wrong, but I didn't expect much from them anyway.
I expect better from my own. We are hungry and impatient for love, and that impatience makes us say and do crazy things. We are blinded, and fail to anoint the firstborn.
Pamela
· 1 year ago
From BestWeekEver.tv
Fox News Finally Goes, “You Guys - We Just Don’t Give A F*ck”
By Alex Blagg
Congratulations to Fox News Channel’s graphics department for somehow managing to outdo your already sterling reputation for classy truth-telling by choosing to refer to Michelle Obama, the wife of the Democratic presidential candidate and an accomplished individual in her own right, as “Obama’s Baby Mama”. The hollow, dead eyes and deluded evil rantings of your talking head vampires clearly weren’t enough to sufficiently convey their hateful and bigoted message, so it’s awesome that you guys were right there to back them up with some casual racism and misogyny there at the bottom of the screen. Your utter lack of concern for your own respectability is inspiring. High five, guys.
Anonymous
· 1 year ago
They don't give a damn. Michelle can say what she wants about her husband in the same way only family can talk about family. You don't "go there" otherwise.
GoldenAh
· 1 year ago
Congress has a cable bill (McCain backed?) based on customer choice. You only pay for the channels you want. 'Cause right now subscribers fund / support FOX News whether they watch or not.
If that bill passed, I may watch TV again.
FOX News only listens to their advertisers: that's the soft spot for all media companies.
Anonymous
· 1 year ago
>> Allegedly she made the baby daddy comment 7 years ago. Now how old were the children seven years ago; maybe two (the eldest child) or a few weeks old or unborn(the youngest)? <<
It was not "allegedly" 7 years ago but certainly uttered by Michelle in 2004.
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The Fact that it is Fake Network is par for the course.
Im convinced Fox is doing all of this purposly to paint the Obamas as sensitive on race. I say again, once Barack is POTUS, thats the VERY FIRST CHANNEL, I want to turn to.
- KXB
I think given Fox's track record and in context of all the other statements that were posted at the bottom of the screen, they have no intention of showing respect for Michelle Obama for a number of reasons.
That said, what came immediately to mind as I read this entry is the fact that Mrs. Obama introduced her husband as her "baby's daddy" on a national stage when he was first elected to Senate. Now, this is not necessarily a justification, but I think that should be noted because it will no doubt be quoted in their defense/apology (if they bother making one).
What are we going to do? There needs to be some sort of collective action. How many baby mamas does Murdoch, Limbaugh, Ailes et al have between them?
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That's exactly the defense they will use.
What they are doing is twofold:
a) attack Michelle (and the children will be next***) to get under Barack's skin to knock him off message
b) ghettoize Michelle to suggest to the American public, "Do you really want Sheniqua/Omarosa in the White House?"
***I believe they are going to attack the Obama girls, but not directly. I expect a bunch of negative stories about black children and I expect black women's sexuality to be discussed as well.
I wouldn't be surprised if they did a "news report" on the treatment of black women in rap and how slang terms are accepted in general "black" society and showed repeated loops of black women grinding and gyrating in a split screen with Michelle, while a panel discusses whether "baby mama" is an appropriate term to label Michelle with or not.
I can't even form a coherent response right now. I'm just outraged at how easily and routinely the MSM and America in general disrespects Black women.
"That said, what came immediately to mind as I read this entry is the fact that Mrs. Obama introduced her husband as her "baby's daddy" on a national stage when he was first elected to Senate. Now, this is not necessarily a justification, but I think that should be noted because it will no doubt be quoted in their defense/apology (if they bother making one)."
-Fine.
So if I (or anyone else) calls Cindy McCain a c**t, I better not hear any complaints from Fox and their minions, because John McCain called his wife that name IN PUBLIC.
What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
Thank you for that. But in all fairness I'm already calling her that.
LOL J/K
Nice to see that the "feminists" view abuse of other women as justified punishment. These women have a few thousand screws lose. First, you're a discredit to your gender because you used your brain to vote instead of your vagina and now because Sen. Clinton lost anything racist or gender discrimination heeped on Michelle Obama is justified because she is married to the "black male."
And they say that the right is wrong about feminists. I think they were right on the money.
- KXB
Something has to be done to stop Fox News! If not, it will only escalate to even more repulsiveness! It's time to draw the line...NOW!
Racism and sexism are a powerful combo, and it's important to recognize, untangle and dismantle them both.
As noted earlier on this blog, much of black culture becomes filtered down into mainstream culture, 'daps', 'bling' et al. Most non-blacks who use these terms have little or no idea of the etymology of these phrases.
From “A Brief History of baby-daddies” published in Slate Magazine two years ago:
Celebrity gossips are not known for their contributions to English letters. In tabloids, the copy is breathless, the headlines are stunningly literal, and the “hand-written” photo captions seem to toggle between “Awww!” and “Ew!” But as they zero in on celebrity mating and breeding rituals, the magpies keep breaking new linguistic ground. First they imported the British term bump, a noun used to refer to the protruding abdomen of a pregnant starlet. Then they awarded celebrity couples mash-up nicknames like “Bennifer,” “Brangelina,” and “TomKat.” Now they’ve seized upon baby-daddy and baby-mama, two useful terms that have long appeared in hip-hop and R&B; lyrics, and are slowly stripping them of their emotional fangs.
The Oxford English Dictionary defines baby-daddy as “the father of a woman’s child, who is not her husband or (in most cases) her current or exclusive partner.” The baby-mama entry follows the same template with the genders reversed. But some gossip writers have been adopting the first part of the definition and ignoring the second. Salon recently called Tom Cruise “Katie Holmes’ baby-daddy,” even though the couple is engaged. And Gawker refers to Keven Federline as “Britney Spears’ baby-daddy,” even though the couple has been married for more than a year.
…These days, the terms no longer seem “chiefly African-American”—they’re everywhere, the latest bits of hip-hop lingo to gain widespread use. Baby-daddy is the new bling. Online, you can buy “Jesus is my baby-daddy” magnets, tote bags, and beer steins. There is a drink called the “babymama.” Scott Hoffman, the bassist for the glam rock band the Scissors Sisters, goes by the stage name “Babydaddy.” Some of this cultural paraphernalia retains the old, loaded sense of the term: You can, for example, download a “Salty Baby Mama” ringtone so that when people call, your phone will jangle and thrum while a woman’s voice says, “Baby, I know you hear this damn phone ringing. I’m going to beat your ass, as soon as I see you.” But just as often, the connotations are strictly biological. Baby-mama has even made inroads in Japan, where it’s being used on a Web site that appears to sell strollers.
Who knows why these terms became catchphrases? Perhaps it’s just that they’re metrically pleasing: Baby-mama and baby-daddy are undeniably fun to say. But it’s the novelty factor that explains how the words lost their negative connotations. Sure, there are many gossip writers who still use the terms in their original senses (calling dancer Carlos Leon “Madonna’s baby-daddy,” for example) because they’re useful, reducing a complex chain of possessives—Madonna’s daughter’s father—to a nice, comprehensible noun. But it seems there are also plenty of writers who just like the way the words sound and don’t care much about the stigma once attached to babydaddyhood. When news came last week that Anna Nicole Smith may be pregnant, it was no surprise that bloggers immediately began speculating about the identity of the “baby daddy.” It may be a long time before you hear a quaint, old-fashioned “Who’s the dad?”
Given the current mainstream usage and how it has devolved from something shameful into something 'cute' to be slapped on a t-shirts and strollers, it is difficult to see how this is such a big deal.
Again, knee-jerk reactions of racism will backfire. Calling Michelle Obama, Obama's baby mama is hardly any more offensive than calling Cindy McCain, McCain's 'pill-popping piece on the side.
This is being blown up into a big deal to keep black folks from ever voting Republican. Nothing more.
Just to clarify, I just wanted to note that because I hadn't seen it mentioned in any of the blogs, and I KNOW someone on the other side is going to bring it up.
I am no fan of the "goose/gander" argument because as far as I'm concerned its shows an incredible amount of intellectual laziness--a fundamental ignorance about difference and the dynamics of power in this country.
Fox will be the pool for the DNC in Denver beginning August 25, 2008.
Your reasoning is faulty. First, you really don't need to explain to black people where a black slang term originated.
Second, now that we know what "baby mama" means, why in the world would that be applied to a woman who was married before she began having children?
HOW in the world could that be applied to a woman who had her children within wedlock?
Would Cindy McCain be described as a "baby mama?" Laura Bush?
Maybe if Fox Noise were a comedy channel, calling Michelle "Barack's baby mama" would be more acceptable. But this is allegedly a news organization, and calling a candidate's wife, who had her children within wedlock a "baby mama" is inappropriate.
So, if it's not a big deal, there shouldn't be any problem putting a picture of Cindy McCain on the screen with "John's JumpOff" as the caption?
1. I will correct you by telling you to say "hip-hop culture" and not black culture. Hip-hop being a black form of music (when I want it to be) has developed its own culture and is more of a division of black culture mixed in now with more mainstream elements than black culture itself, which is diverse and nuanced. When people think of hip-hop culture as black culture, you get people who walk up to my straight laced 55 year old father going "What up dog!", "I'm feelin da bling" etc...and it can be demeaning. Trust me! Non-blacks do this crap! I don't know if they are joking, trying to be demeaning and condescending or simply ignorant.
Also, they do fist bumps at sporting events and even in beer commericals. I am confused as to why people think only black people do it or are so fascinated with it.
As for Fox News creating a headline about Obama's "Baby Mama", I really am not shocked. If you go online, you see all kinds of things written about Michelle. Fox is nothing more than propaganda. I cannot watch Fox without getting chest pain. They get away some of the most blatant racism.
I also really hate Michelle Malkin!
I also wanted to say, Hi Rhonda! We have the same name=)
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S.
Go to hell! You're a stupid moron!
It's Fox News. What did you really expect?
Occasionally, they provide good-and somewhat unbiased-information. But sometimes....they're way out there. Hell, I would've expected something along the lines of "Uncle Barack's Cabin" from them before the Germans (course, there's still time....).
What this goes back to is making comments that aren't smart-again. Someone should've told Michelle not to call her husband her "baby daddy" in public. That's damn near license for everyone to say it (and yeah, that standard applies to McCain as well. I haven't actually heard him call his wife a c--t, but I've heard enough about it on the left and right to believe it).
" Someone should've told Michelle not to call her husband her "baby daddy" in public.
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That's a sorry ass excuse you're giving there!
No one would dare refer to Laura Bush, Barbara Bush or Nancy Reagan as baby mama! You're spewing raw BS! Dammit!
It's not an excuse.
The Obamas are new to the political spectrum-where EVERYTHING that's said is open to interpretation and spin.
I've tried-and, by my own admission, occasionally failed-not to blame Michelle for some of the things she's said. I take a bigger issue for someone not prepping her on what NOT to say.
And Laura/Barbara Bush or Nancy Reagan didn't say that about their husbands....did they?
Maybe it's nerdy of me to care about words, and maybe I have a lot of chutzpah to kvetch about it here and I shouldn't be kibbitzing, but it hardly makes a person a putz for using words that started in a different culture.
Being ignorant of their meaning and origin, or using them to demean people from the culture of origin is another matter altogether. To that I say, "Feh! That's not kosher"
http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/fightthesmearshome/
She's supposed to be "off limits" just because Barry says so? ("Now go out and make some more speeches about how awful America is, sweetie. If they criticize you. I'll just call them racists").
Oh, and now I see we're all indignant and sh*t, demanding "respect" for a sister. Too funny. Look at all the garbage and "bro before ho" crap that's been posted here about "bitch" Hillary 24/7 for the past 9 months.
Karma's a bitch, ain't it...
Hypocrites.
Oh Look, anon 8:33 is just another bitter bitch that supported Hillary & she lost!
Boo-f-ing hoo! Take that mofo!
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/6/12/85742/7896/410/534542
ahahahahahahahaha
Hillary didn't win! Get over it!
So what should they call McCain's Wife?
"John's Med addicted, charity stealin, plastic surgery addicted trollop?" (McCain called Cindy a trollop his damn self)
This is really crazy considering how long the Obama's have been married...
and even more ridiculous when you think about the horror that is McCain's marriage...everything from the way it started to the fact the he called her the "c" word in public.
The sad part is that everyday she wishes that she was white...she went to Oberlin College (one of the most liberal colleges in the US) and grew up Philly.
She needs to look past her token status (as the only non-white non-blond anchorwomen) on faux news and realize that all ppl of color are one and the same through the eyes of any redneck racist
Here’s how she introduced him during his Senate victory speech on Nov. 2, 2004:
MICHELLE OBAMA, WIFE OF BARACK OBAMA: My baby’s daddy Barack Obama. Yeah!
And as someone posted upthread it's Babies' Daddy not Baby's Daddy
Talk about self hate.
http://scalzi.com/whatever/?p=870
Red meat for Malkin haters.
But free advise, don't use the: "Well, she called Barack Obama her babies' daddy." excuse. You're a news organization, not a satire TV show or comedy channel.
Anonymous posters, Michelle Malkin or whomever want to bring that up, whatever, but not a news organization.
"anon 8:33,"
"Oh Look, anon 8:33 is just another bitter bitch that supported Hillary & she lost!"
"Boo-f-ing hoo! Take that mofo!"
-Hey, now!
Of course anon 8:33 is bitter.
Dodging Bosnian sniper fire will do that to you...as far as I know.
I didn't think what I said came off as defending Fox News.....?
- KXB
This seems like a knee-jerk reaction to me. I had no idea the phrase even ever had any racial connotations to it. Language evolves. Phrases and their meanings change. It's pretty clear from pop culture that that's the case here. Fox was dumb to use it, of course, but overreaction is just as bad considering:
-Michelle Obama herself who referred to Barack as her “baby’s daddy” and has used the phrase “baby daddy” to describe Barack while on the stump this year. (Senate victory speech, Nov. 2, 2004)
-The Oxford English Dictionary defines baby-daddy as “the father of a woman’s child, who is not her husband or (in most cases) her current or exclusive partner.” The baby-mama entry follows the same template with the genders reversed.
-Online, you can buy “Jesus is my baby-daddy” magnets, tote bags, and beer steins. Scott Hoffman, the bassist for the glam rock band the Scissors Sisters, goes by the stage name “Babydaddy.” Baby-mama has even made inroads in Japan, where it’s being used on a Web site that appears to sell strollers. (Michelle Malkin, "We're going to hell")
I think the first one is what confuses me the most. If Michelle Obama uses the phrase herself to refer to her own family, how can it be offensive?
THAT'S NOT ME. it's just the prevailing attitude out in the world, i fear.
I am sorry but I love this quote because it is SOOOOOOO oblivious this woman hates herself. She will throw every other person of color under the bus to look good for Bill O' Reilly. So sad. I am LOL!!!!
If the defense is , Well she introduced BARACK has her Baby Daddy, then John McCain has opened a door, that I know most will find just as inviting.
If MSNBC ran
C. U. N.ext Tuesday
under an image of Cindy McCain, Im about 99% sure, somebody wouldve got fired. Shuster Factually made mention of Chelsea being pimped out, and was suspended for a week. I doubt Fox takes that severe of an action, b/c frankly, they dont care. If this drives people to watch them more, suspect her to be Target #1 over there.
I thought the same thing last year.
Once Obama announced that he was running. It seemed like every month a high profile black man was being brought down.
It was eerie.
And yes there will be a lot of "investigative" reporting about young black children and black women. I will be waiting and watching just like you.
I think we can all agree there are forms of communication and behavior that are appropriate between spouses, even in public, that are no appropriate for wider use.
And that's where they should stay.
That doesn't seem like the case here.
I'm not defending Fox; I have a "not suprising" attitude towards them over this. And I can't really be mad at Michelle either.
It just wasn't a smart thing to say.
Since Salon's Alex Koppelman caught Fox News characterizing Michelle Obama as "Obama's Baby Mama," there's been an uproar over use of such an offensive term.
“A producer on the program exercised poor judgment in using this chyron during the segment,” Fox's Senior Vice President of Programming Bill Shine said in a statement to Politico.
Although Shine doesn't name anyone responsible, the show's producer is Jessica Herzberg. A Fox staffer said that others internally were bothered by describing the potential first lady and very accomplished woman — as the senator's "baby mama."
There. Go after her and get her fired.
So regarding Fox's caption or whatever....BFD.
Let's give the "I'm offended. I'm outraged. I'm a victim of this and that" stupidity a rest for 5 minutes every now and then.
What do you call very young human beings usually around two years or below or even unborn maybe "baby"?!!
The Fox news was trying to imply that black women are sexually "loose", immoral and that all Black women do is have children out of wedlock with different men.
Now we should not have to go there but there are so many problems affecting the U.S.
But since they started it here we go:
Let us not forget that John McCain divorced his 1st wife (who was still recovering from the after effects of a debilitating car crash) and married Cindy McCain (blonde and 20 years his junior) one month later... before the ink even dried on the divorce decree.
Was Cindy " dating" while McCain was married? IS that a breach of the marriage vows?
So who has the loose morals? So who has the superior character?
Do the republicans really want to start a "family values or morality" fight?
Well, to be fair, John McCain used the word c*-t with no apologies.
So its ok for us to Call Cindy what John McCain called his wife? I mean, he has used that word before?
I have always believed that White America has 'jungle fever' and is in a constant state of denial. They love us, want to be us, have to imitate us, but can't own up to it. It's like they are grade schoolers throwing rocks at the object of their secret affections...
Don't just blame Fox for this mess. Have you seen all of the 'fist bumping' as of late? http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22425001/vp/2506910...>
What does Cindy McCain have to do with Fox News refering to Michelle Obama as Barack's "baby mama?"
Go after Fox News all day, but why are we dragging Cindy into this?
I agree with everything in your first comments. As a human being I believe everyone deserves respect. I hate when Blacks are anyone else is disrespected or stereotyped. Just wrong!!! But you can't be a college educated woman and introduce your husband as baby daddy and not get disrespected. I also remember when she did that and cringed. It took awhile for me to liker her after that. I knew what it could cause, and I thought she should have had more class. She nor her mother were baby mamas so why put yourself in that class. Just a thought. Yes it was wrong to call her that, but don't call yourself that first. I don't agree with D, but I think you all are beating him up for no real reason. He is not defending FOX News. I know I am not, but like him I want Mrs. Obama to do better and not call her husband a Baby Daddy. Fox news is wrong wrong wrong, but don't given a reason. No Fox would not do this to Mrs. McCain. I know this but still an educated woman should not call her husband Baby Daddy. Point Blank
I dragged Cindy into it, b/c if the GOP plans to attack spouses, (As this story lead on each and every Cable News Outlet Last Night) then all spouses must be up for grabs. Past and Present. Hence the reason you see people commenting about John McCains First wife and how he dogged her out as well.
The defense that Malkin and Anon 11:11 use is "well shes called Barack her Baby Daddy before, so thats ok."
My logic is,if thats the case, John McCain called his current wife C-*t so that clearly must make it ok.
I get your arguement about Why blame Cindy for the errors of Fox, but as I recall, when John McCain caught fire from the media about Hagee, he made it a POINT to say, I was not a member of his church for 20 yrs nor was he my spiritual advisor, Why was that even relevant to John Mc.? Why didnt he focus his attacks on the media?
One, this isn't a GOP attack. I can't even say honestly that this is a right wing attack; hell, my friends on the fringes are laughing at Obama's supporters for going to war over it (don't get me wrong, I understand why people are upset).
I guess my question then becomes, is this really productive?
And yes; the things spouses do-even if they're years in the past, apparently-are fair game. Thing is, though, Cindy didn't do this one.....
Given that Barack and John McCain Differ on so much, no its not productive. But, if the GOP wants to make it an issue (and this story lead on all 3 cable networks) then the real problem lies with them.
The DNC hasnt touched Cindy the way the GOP has touched Michelle. Lets be honest, the only scrutiny she faced was releasing her taxes. (of which she did on a Friday facing a 3 day weekend)
The GOP has made it there attempt every 4 yrs to target the spouse of a Dem. and run with it. Its past pathetic. If the DNC went the low road one time, (ie the C word) youd have Hannity, Limbaugh, the ENTIRE OF FOX and God knows who else calling for reprimands.
Yet they can openly search for a Video that doesnt exist, Take Michelle's comments completly out of context about how she feels about this country, and specifically in Tenn. appeal to there lowest common demonimators by running ads opposite of her appearence...
Clean that GOP filth and maybe a dialogue about issues can actually take place....
This one's got nothing to do with the GOP. Hell, I haven't even heard anyone with serious ties to the party even give it a mention.
Where the GOP attacks, then to call them on it is fair. This isn't one of those times.
"My baby's daddy" is NOT the same as saying "my baby-daddy."
So this whole argument of "she said it first" is not only trying to compare an affectionate epithet or descriptor given by a spouse with a (heavily racialized) headline on a major 24-hour cable news station - the people who use that argument are depending on her having used a slang term which she never actually used.
That doesn't, IMO, give a news channel license to do the same thing.
As other posters have stated, if it's ok to call Michelle Obama a "baby mama" in the chyron because she called Barack her baby's daddy, then it would also be ok put "C*unt" or "Trollop" in the chyron under Cindy McCain, b/c that's what McCain called his wife in public.
Come on, if they were discussing Carol McCain and Cindy McCain, they would not put "Trollop?" in the chyron under Cindy's picture and if they did, there would be severe consequences and repercussions.
The excuse that "Well Michelle Obama said it first" just doesn't fly with me because I don't think any of the news organizations would have gone there PLUS they were not talking about Michelle and Barack and the girls or the Obama family in general or how Michelle manages motherhood with the rigors of the campaign, they were talking about GOP attacks on Michelle Obama which has nothing to do with Michelle being a mom or being the mother of Barack's children.
"Baby's Mama" another on of those delightfull colloquialisms we've gifted to the world...along with "Ho" and "Hoochie".
Then there is Toni, in all her literary might, who got over-heated and anointed the cellulitic, sexual predator, Bill Clinton as "First Black President".
I would like to thank my fellow black people for making my life as a black woman, a bundle of joy.
I can't tell you how fun it is for me when whites take the verbal knife we've placed in their hands, turn around and place it firmly my heart. Shoot, the best thing is when I walk down the street after dark, and men of all ethnicities, and ages try to solicit my company, visions of BET dancing in their heads.
I am perplexed, what is it about me that makes me look like a "ho". Surely, it's not the prim pencil skirt, which falls firmly at my knees. It's not my unremarkable hair, nor is it my locked-down bosom.
Whatever.
I muse idly about it, lamenting the loss of my anonymity. I don't fear muggers here, in Toronto. It is BET that terrorizes me.
It's not cute! Baby Mama isn't cute.
Ho isn't cute.
Honey isn't cute.
Nigga isn't cute.
Crotch shots of bikini clad, black women in rap videos are not cute!
Michelle Obama, I'm here on the sidelines cheering you on - wanting you to win; but, it is not cute to refer to your husband as your Baby's daddy.
I can't find safety, even in the darkness.
God help me; we agree.
well then, I guess I'm just going to have to re-think my position. ;-)
My friend, that's....oh, forget it.
:-)
I couldn't have said it better myself!
I am surprised that Michelled referred to her husband that way.
Honestly, dnA. There's so much real shit to be outraged about, there's no need to make stuff up just so you can keep the hate going and the comments coming against Clinton's white female supporters. Find a new dead horse to beat.
1. Fox News fucked up.
2. Michelle made a dumb statement-again.
I'm not apologizing/defending either. In their own respective ways, they're both wrong.
It is frustrating, isn't it? Of course Fox is wrong, but I didn't expect much from them anyway.
I expect better from my own. We are hungry and impatient for love, and that impatience makes us say and do crazy things. We are blinded, and fail to anoint the firstborn.
Fox News Finally Goes, “You Guys - We Just Don’t Give A F*ck”
By Alex Blagg
Congratulations to Fox News Channel’s graphics department for somehow managing to outdo your already sterling reputation for classy truth-telling by choosing to refer to Michelle Obama, the wife of the Democratic presidential candidate and an accomplished individual in her own right, as “Obama’s Baby Mama”. The hollow, dead eyes and deluded evil rantings of your talking head vampires clearly weren’t enough to sufficiently convey their hateful and bigoted message, so it’s awesome that you guys were right there to back them up with some casual racism and misogyny there at the bottom of the screen. Your utter lack of concern for your own respectability is inspiring. High five, guys.
If that bill passed, I may watch TV again.
FOX News only listens to their advertisers: that's the soft spot for all media companies.
It was not "allegedly" 7 years ago but certainly uttered by Michelle in 2004.
Geez, people, at least argue back with facts.