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Re: Obama and the Theft of Black Votes

Lily — Tue, 29 Jul 2008 20:05:13 -0000

This may be helpful for those of us who are going to do what we can to protect the vote. Being in Seattle is a blessing at times.

http://www.stealingamericathemovie.org/

WHAT YOU CAN DO
STEALING AMERICA can become a tool not just for the issue but for your group in particular; many theaters will allow us to “table” in the lobby to hand out literature. At some it will be possible to hold benefits for your own organization. The attached flyer explains all.

I urge you to make the most of this opportunity, and at the least put out the call to your members to fill the theaters near them. At the moment, it is especially important that there be a huge turnout in NYC and LA. But also contact friends and colleagues in all the various cities -– let’s fill those theaters to overflowing!
Sally Castleman
Grassroots Coordinator,
STEALING AMERICA Vote by Vote
* If you have suggestions of additional theaters in your area to the ones listed below, that you think ought to be contacted as possible venues, please write to me at20SallyC@ElectionDefenseAlliance.org.

here's a list of cities

http://markcrispinmiller.blogspot.com/2008/07/s...

Re: Obama and the Theft of Black Votes

Chakra Khan — Tue, 29 Jul 2008 13:06:49 -0000

No Doubt!

People, we all need to take responsibility for confronting this shit. All of us.

DON'T PUT UP WITH IT

If you are a member of a church group, go to the polls as a group, with cameras recorders ANYTHING

Re: Obama and the Theft of Black Votes

GreenLadyHere — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 20:41:12 -0000

NO ID: I'm smiling! :>) :>) Thank you. :>)

Re: Obama and the Theft of Black Votes

NO ID — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 20:27:37 -0000

"W" Trailer Hits The Web
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyDvUwRalXY
in the meantime, enjoy this heartwarming story of how one young man lives the American dream, fails upward and becomes POTUS through the efforts of his rich, politically connected daddy....

Re: Obama and the Theft of Black Votes

Gee — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 19:35:28 -0000

Election fraud is not a conspiracy theory but a reality. I agree with No ID, there are quite a few Black people, and people in general, like myself, who don't believe in the election process. And I don't think that people will get enough disenfranchised voters to vote, and cause Obama to win. Though I do hope and think Obama will win I will say this to all of you who question us none voters......."Please, please, please put as pay as much attention to your local (city, schoo, municipal court elections, etc.) as you have for the presidential election. Truth be told, your vote actually counts on the local level. Now for the presidency....not technically. I'm not sayin don't vote. Of course, vote for the president, but ALSO vote for your community. Once we have good officials in the local positions, they can rise to the top. Similar to Obama

Re: Obama and the Theft of Black Votes

NO ID — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 19:34:57 -0000

i know this is a political site but beauty is political too...
http://adage.com/bigtent/post?article_id=129759
Black Vogue Popularity Sparks Conde Nast's first ever reprint

hey how do i link so that the headline shows and not the link, some of y'all seem to be up on how that's done....please share :-)

Re: Obama and the Theft of Black Votes

CraigHickman — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 19:28:21 -0000

So much religious symbolism I don't know what to do! ;)

Re: Obama and the Theft of Black Votes

NO ID — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 19:16:04 -0000

This is all good, but the Washington Post article seems to suggest that if we could get enough disenfranchised voters to vote, it would steer the election to Obama as those numbers are huge and likely to vote in his favor. I don't worry about voter fraud but then I'm in a large city that Obama won handily in the primiaries. But what about the black folks who are unfamiliar or turned off by the voting process? It would seem that the work on the ground would be even getting them to the polls.

Re: Obama and the Theft of Black Votes

Lynne — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 19:14:54 -0000

Did anyone watch "Recount" on HBO?? Please don't tell me 2008 is the sequel....I swear, I just know there are so many people in the Bush Administration and their cronies who have the mark of the beast tatooed on the back of their heads.

Re: Obama and the Theft of Black Votes

NO ID — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 19:11:44 -0000

JJ and everyone else...you don't need a camcorder, which some folks might not have. All you need these days is a cell phone...or even a digital camera that can shoot video.

Re: Obama and the Theft of Black Votes

Symphony — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 19:01:03 -0000

"...this is the first election when Floridians will discover the impact of a change in state policy regarding criminals, namely that felons who have served their time and have been paroled can have their civil rights restored - a fancy way of saying they can register to vote - almost automatically." -Lakeland Ledger.

One article said it could be as many as 150,000 who have their voting restored. I'm sure it won't be that many based on numerous reasons.

Re: Obama and the Theft of Black Votes

CraigHickman — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:45:56 -0000

No pun intended.

Re: Obama and the Theft of Black Votes

CraigHickman — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:45:26 -0000

Fabulous.

Re: Obama and the Theft of Black Votes

CPL — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:34:36 -0000

Smoothie, the Brits STILL hate Tony Blair and wishes he'd just immigrate to the States, already. I had to do a book review on a book written by Geoffrey Wheatcroft, and it was 100 pages of pure contempt for Blair.

Gordon Brown isn't well-liked either, but the Brits aren't screaming for his head and he's wisely distanced himself from Bush, so that earned him brownie points.

Re: Obama and the Theft of Black Votes

CPL — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:32:09 -0000

I'm attending a course on British Politics and processes at Oxford.

Re: Obama and the Theft of Black Votes

CraigHickman — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:21:41 -0000

i even tell them to bring a witness to vouch for you

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That image in the context of voting in a western democratic republic is simply shocking.

Re: Obama and the Theft of Black Votes

CraigHickman — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:17:12 -0000

This sucks. Voting rights should not be at the mercy of partisan politics.

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TruthSpeaker

Re: Obama and the Theft of Black Votes

GreenLadyHere — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:16:54 -0000

eclectic: According to an article that I read, he has morphed into Independent. Wonder how long "they" will support him? :>) :>)

Re: Obama and the Theft of Black Votes

GreenLadyHere — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:11:05 -0000

soulsistah02: This information, coupled with informing the media [of various ilks] should help!! Thank you.

Re: Obama and the Theft of Black Votes

eclecticbrotha — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:08:28 -0000

Another person who thinks blacks vote based on skin color and not on issues. To the people who insist of believing that lie I have two words:

Alan Keyes.

Re: Obama and the Theft of Black Votes

eclecticbrotha — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:55:52 -0000

Also, be sure to check the card they send before each election to verify its accuracy. Look for any misspellings or errors in your address. Little things like that are what end up as challenges on election day, and provisional ballots are often challenged as well. Also, BE SURE there's a paper trail if electronic voting machines are used. In fact, if your polling place uses Diebold voting machines and provides provisional ballots I'd suggest using the provisional ballots. Diebold is notorious for its weak security and there is no paper printout to verify your vote in case a recount is necessary. Also, the owner of Diebold is a well known Bushie.

Black Box Voting is an election watchdog site that has all kinds of information on Diebold machines an how to protect your vote:
http://www.blackboxvoting.org/

Re: Obama and the Theft of Black Votes

smoothie — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:51:30 -0000

i swear i tell everyone who ive helped in the registration process the same thing,,i even tell them to bring a witness to vouch for you. its that crucial now

Re: Obama and the Theft of Black Votes

CraigHickman — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:47:05 -0000

Thanks for the info.

Re: Obama and the Theft of Black Votes

soulsistah02 — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:37:12 -0000

I'd like for everyone to contact the chapters or local offices of these organizations and encourage them to press the Secretary of State and all election officials to keep our elections fair and accessible to all:

ACLU: www.aclu.org/votingrights/index.html
Fair Vote: www.fairvote.org
NCLR: www.nclr.org
NAACP Legal Defense Fund: www.naacpldf.org
NUL: www.nul.org
Lawyers' Committee for Civil Rights Under the Law: http://www.lawyerscommittee.org/2005website/hom...
LCCREF: www.civilrights.org/about/lccref/index.html
The Interfaith Alliance: www.interfaithalliance.org
League of Women Voters: www.lwv.org
Common Cause: www.commoncause.org
MALDEF: www.maldef.org
Color of Change: www.ColorofChange.org
MoveOn: www.MoveOn.org

Other Ways To Get Involved:

(a) Encourage your friends and family members to become election judges. That way, you can have an on-the-ground view of how the elections are proceeding in your district. You should be able to find out more information about becoming an election judge by visiting your Secretary of State's website or municipality's website.

(b) Become an election escort. All you need to do is read about your state's and municipality's election rules and policies and volunteer to escort the elderly or uninformed voters to the polls.

(c) Bring cell phones that are outfitted with recording devices (e.g. digital cameras and cam corders) and digital cameras to record any unscrupulous behavior.

It's time out for saying that this is someone else's problem. That kind of thinking has gotten us nearly eight years of incompentency, indifference and injustice. Let's help elect Barack Obama to the White House.

Re: Obama and the Theft of Black Votes

CraigHickman — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:19:31 -0000

Oh, election stealing has been going on long before this administration.

And it's happened on both sides of the aisle.