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Thanks for the heads up MS.Martin, I'll have to watch that one!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygNkE13qp8I
Another Fantastic Slideshow of Portland rally
Oregon sent a sent a huge message. Beautiful. Let me go send some more money. There is still work to be done.
Thanks for the pics - that was awesome.
I wonder if that was the largest crowd assembled for a political rally - another record maybe?
Can you feel the love!
I just have one question... where did this fake Jimi Hendrix dude get his Michelle Obama pin??? I want a Michelle Obama pin!!! LOL!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/theoregonian/2504070830/in/set-72157605128051788/
Maybe he really should pick my-man, Biden (I always liked him especially before his Outcast moment -- "fresh & clean"). That way, as soon as Clinton/McCain + Media start trying to claim so random dumb sh*t he'll have someone experienced at calling BULLSH*T on that bs.
Seriously, though. It took me a while before I was okay with the way he was campaigning via his advisers. The brother needs to work on his debate skills and response time. Him jumping on that Bush-sh*t was better. I guess he was saving it up for the general.
And, how would you like to have been one of the folks in the boats, chilling on the harbor, watching this rally.
Wow, once again to Oregon. They came through in a mighty big way.
It made me teary. It looks like it made them happy too.
BTW, did you get a load of that Jimi Hendrix dude? LOL! I wonder if he dresses up like that all the time.
Thank You Oregon! Props baby!
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Oregon is making quite a statement, isn't it?
I disagree with flag-pin wearing as pandering.
Obama said Veterans have encouraged him to wear it in order to take the issue off the table for those who will try to use it against him.
Besides which, Obama never said he'd never wear a flag pin again, so he's not setting aside a core principle.
And Obama takes off his tie a lot, so I'm not sure what the author was talking about.
All that said, I agree wholeheartedly with the straight talk he needs to do around not being the "black President" and reinforcing his themes of unity in pointing out that people from all backgrounds are hardworking Americans who can benefit from his economic policies.
He'll get there. He won't leave an stone unturned before the general election.
Starbucks must have made a fortune there!
Big kine, fortune!
Glad you found JJP, brah. Stick around.
Alohaz.
And, how would you like to have been one of the folks in the boats, chilling on the harbor, watching this rally.
Wow, once again to Oregon. They came through in a mighty big way.
Wow. Oceans and oceans of people.
It made me think how, if you listened to our media, these were everyday people who have deserved to have relevant messages delivered to them, instead of the race-baiting garbage they've been getting.
This many people in one gathering tells you how our media are out of touch.
Typical CNN.
Morning Joe has been great without Joe. They reported about the event.
But all of them took jabs at Oregonians as liberals with 10-speed bikes.
I boggles the mind the nonsense out of a "journalist's" mouth.
http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=4883537
although i am purely a socialist and still want to move the fuck out of this disaster of a country, obama gives me hope and i love him for it.
Cindy McCain takes a beating for not releasing her tax returns-which have nothing to do with John McCain. She basically stands by while her husband is essentially called a cheater by that bastion of conservative thought, the NYT. Yet, she takes it all in stride.
Michelle Obama makes some comments that some might consider questionable and unpatriotic, and those words find themselves into a commercial. Barack feels compelled to tell people to "lay off [his] wife," as if she's off limits.
Anyone else see a double standard here?
Imagine if Michelle Obama was hooked on drugs and was accused of stealing pills for her habit!
Do you see that sh%t happening with Cindy McCain? Do you see the difference here, d?
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Do you see that sh%t happening with Cindy McCain? Do you see the difference here, d?
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Not only that, but Cindy McCain embezzled money from her foundation and when it was discovered, she pointed the finger at a totally innocent employee of the foundation and claimed that HE was the one who embezzled the funds.
Let's stop for a moment and think: You're worth $100 million dollars, but you embezzle money from a charitable foundation to feed your pill habit. And then you set someone else up to take the fall.
If Michelle Obama had done this, we'd be hearing about this 24-7, they would have dragged up the employee that Michelle had blamed to give his side of the story, they would have been saying that the Obamas were drug dealers and maybe that's how they really financed their house, they would have had Gloria Allred up on the news talking about how the Obama children should be taken away, etc.
If Barack had been married to somebody else and Michelle came along and broke that marriage up, they would have talking about "family values," and asking the public if we "really" want a homewrecking pillhead as First Lady.
If Michelle Obama's attitude and behavior is fair game, so is Cindy McCain's. And I'm not sure how many women will be keen on Cindy McCain knowing that she broke up John's 1st marriage, is a drug addict, stole money and tried to pin it on someone else.
"What it says is that I'm not very well known in that part of the country," Obama said. "Sen. Clinton, I think, is much better known, coming from a nearby state of Arkansas. So it's not surprising that she would have an advantage in some of those states in the middle."
Cling Alert! 1) "Last time I checked, Illinois was more 'nearby' Kentucky than Arkansas. Heck, they even touch." 2) "[I]sn't there something a tad condescending in his reference to "some of those states in the middle"? ...
P.S.: Obama also said that Kentucky Democrats are fools who let themselves get pumped full of false rumors by Fox News, or words to that effect. But he'll rally them in the fall! ...
Note to Sen. Obama: Please stop explaining!
That's true, it is. Couldn't agree more.
But if that's the case, why the speechifying this morning from Obama? Is Michelle exempt from scrutiny?
Any man who doesn't tell folks to lay off his spouse isn't a man.
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Those images of Oregon make up for all of it.
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Because (finally) he's taking up for his wife, just as when the attacks get revved up on Cindy McCain, John will tell the press to "lay off his wife."
Here's an example of sour grapes if I've ever seen any. The NY Times did a piece:
Supporters Debate Whether Hillary Lost Because of Sexism
This is the passage that got my blood boiling. . . unsubstantiated claims of sexism and misguided aggression towards Obama for the alleged sins of the media.
This article also oozes with a sense of (white) privilege and entitlement that makes my stomach turn.
Read for yourselves and tell me what you think.
"Some even accuse Mr. Obama of chauvinism, pointing to the time he called Mrs. Clinton “likeable enough” as evidence of dismissiveness. Nancy Wait, 55, a social worker in Columbia City, Ind., said Mr. Obama was far less qualified than Mrs. Clinton and described as condescending his recent assurances that Mrs. Clinton should stay in the race as long as she liked. Ms. Wait said she would “absolutely, positively not” vote for him come fall.
Ms. Ferraro, who clashed with the Obama campaign about whether she made a racially offensive remark, said she might not either. “I think Obama was terribly sexist,” she said.
Cynthia Ruccia, 55, a sales director for Mary Kay cosmetics in Columbus, Ohio, is organizing a group, Clinton Supporters Count Too, of mostly women in swing states who plan to campaign against Mr. Obama in November. “We, the most loyal constituency, are being told to sit down, shut up and get to the back of the bus,” she said.
Yep, that's it. These women are so privileged that they can't even imagine a world in which the black guy could win on his own merits. It's that whole affirmative action argument again. How ironic.
Seriously??? That's all you've got???
Obama's biggest sins: "You're likeable enough" and the nerve to defend Hillary's choice to stay in the race????
That's sexism? Wow.
They should just cut to the chase and say what they really feel. . . "That uppity Nigger cut in line!"
It'll save us a lot of time.
"But if that's the case, why the speechifying this morning from Obama? Is Michelle exempt from scrutiny?
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Are you kidding me? Don't go there again, d! What man is not going to stand up for his wife. Politics is one thing---a man's wife is another!
Brack loves & respects his beloved Michelle. He's not like John McCain & wouldn't ever call his beloved Michelle a "c%%t!
Doubt it. But I guess we'll see.
Justice,
That's my point. This is politics. They knew-or, benefit of the doubt, should have known-what they were getting into, and the type of scrutiny they would both face. That is the nature of the business-however unfortunate it may be.
If we were talking about his kids, my tone would be completely different: THAT wouldn't be acceptable, and I'd be the first to call someone on it.
Just about everyone and everything else is fair game. If they don't like it, well......
The really sad part is that Obama's supporters-and once he gets the nomination, liberals in general-will throw the book at Cindy McCain, and cry foul when it's thrown back at Michelle.
I think a "misspeak" from Michelle (and yes I thought the phrasing of her comments stunk but I did think she misspoke) is different than a homewrecker who stole from a CHARITY orginization - rich as she is! to support her habit. I mean unless she was "misstealing"! I know these days we can throw "mis" in front of a word and it makes it OK! LOL
So the difference to me is that Michelle got caught up and made a BAD choice of words ( a couple of times granted) but Cindy got caught up in missusing DRUGS and made a bad series of decisions and lied daily to cover it up and it doesn't appear as if she ever really to the whole truth.
And McCain has NO respect for women!
Against Race Politics
Hmm, funny Obama supporters are always being called out as being this or that. However, the first time during this election, that I read an attack on Obama's children, came from a Clinton supporter (maybe they were a psuedo-Republican?; That was after the Iowa caucuses.
If I had not been banned from that particular website for challenging all the rabid baseless and false character attacks on Senator Obama, I would gladly pass along the URL.
However, something tells me, despite your assertions, you'd find a way to excuse such filth.
Simply because you dislike Obama because you've fallen for the Republican okey doke.
How about the fact that Cindy just this year stole a recipe directly from Rachel Ray's website and posted it on the McCain site and advertised it as her "family recipe" and when folks called her on it she and her husband said an intern did it?
All this is moot.
Obama would never go after McCain on a personal level because that is not who he is. But Repubs need to realize he will defend his family as he should. Attack him on the issues and his record because that is what he wants to do with McCain but he will issue a smack down if someone steps to his wife or kids. And that is how it should be.
If you do not want to vote for Obama, simply because you don't like him...then just admit that and move the fuck on.
For example, on the flipside...
I was out and about in my town running errands last week and I decided casually to ask people who they would hope to vote for in the GE. One young white man said, that he was voting for Obama...that he just could not handle a woman being President right now. Another white man, claimed he just did not like Hillary and could not explain why...he just didn't. He claimed she rubbed him the wrong way.
I did not like or appreciate those answers, but they were being honest. In turn, some people just do not want Obama to be President of this country. Whether it be because he's black, a man, a democrat or any other arbitrary reason.
Stop acting as though you are an objective, critical thinker and admit...You just don't like him for (insert any of the above reasons).
This disingenuous bullshit is really annoying me.
Every time you say something, you prove my point. By the way, Cindy McCain has recovered from her addiction (not, of course, that it will make any difference to you or anyone else). And let's not even begin to talk about the positive things she's done since then....wait, those won't matter either.....
Val,
McCain didn't go after Obama on a personal level. The TN GOP took advantage of Michelle's public statement.
I know how you feel. I promise not long ago I felt like I couldn't live my life properly b/c it was my job to confront people with all the ignorance and hate they have been spouting. I had to take a break from it! LOL!
I have policy issues with Obama; I don't dislike him as a person.
It has nothing to do with the fact that he's black (I more than recognize the historical implications of his candidacy), a man (have we ever had a president who wasn't?) or a democrat (there are some-though not many-democrats I see eye to eye with on some issues).
No, I'm not going to vote for Obama-just like I'm sure a lot of posters here won't be voting for McCain. That doesn't mean, however, that I won't call Obama on something I feel is questionable...and just because you (probably) won't vote for McCain, that doesn't mean that you-or anyone else here-shouldn't call him on what you feel is questionable.
I'm almost afraid to ask but just what point is that?
Remember, I even agreed with you (and was unpopular last week) about some of the comments that Michelle made. I just don't think it is a fair comparison that you are making today. Perhaps Cindy has recovered and perhaps Michelle has "recovered" from misspeaking also. LOL!
I think you are highly intelligent and respect your view and don't mind letting you know when I agree (in fact this is the first time I have ever written a comment to disagree with you personally) but I do disagree with some of your politics.
I'd like to think Michelle has recovered as well....LOL.
My point is this: all things being (somewhat) equal, Michelle is subject to the same type and level of criticism that Cindy is having/will have. That's it.
You got that right!
Well if that is the case then Cindy should be getting a LOT more coverage! They (Republicans -including Clinton) could care less if a drug problem was in the past for Michelle Obama- a Black woman. As Anon 7:02 said, they would talk about this day and night, interviewing all parties involved, accuse them of being drug dealers (oh wait - didn't Bob Johnson suggest or something close to that already?). Fox would start another Reverend Wright episode! Unless, I have missed it the media has been soft on Cindy.(and I could have missed it b/c aside from the cute little suits she wears and the over the top prom hairdos I don't see much else about Cindy. LOL!) Come on, D!
Cindy has-for the most part-stayed out of the campaign. Or, put better, hasn't been involved to the level Michelle has. That's why the spotlight isn't on her.
But, rest assured, it's coming. Especially now.
When Cindy McCain is criticized, let me know. The only public criticism that has come against Cindy McCain was at the hands of Karl Rove during the primary of 2000 not any democrat. When Cindy McCain and her role in the Keating 5, investments in Sudan, taxes, adultery, narcotics which should have been a felony et al are reported on by the MSM let me know. If Michelle Obama had the track record of Cindy McCain or Laura Bush (murderer), she and her husband would already have been destroyed so don't try to pretend like there is not a double standard.
"It has nothing to do with the fact that he's black
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That's kind of an odd statement! But maybe that's just me but didn't you admit to being a black guy!
I find it odd that a black man would use words like "It has nothing to do with the fact that he's black" in speaking about another black man!
d, I could be wrong but I think you've been busted! ;)
Not really. The piece of the story you don't know is that I get asked all the time from people I know how I, as a black man, could not support Obama. And I tell them the same thing I said here: it has nothing to do with that.
What's up with trying to "bust" me, anyway? :)
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Well, until she((Pill Popping Thief) tried attacking Michelle Obama on really loving her country!
I thought it was hilarious that McCain allowed her speak that day just so she could say that!!
"What's up with trying to "bust" me, anyway? :)
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I'm not! You did it all yourself!lol
I know! Before Cindy McCain finally spoke out, I was wondering, what's wrong with this woman just standing there smiling & looking silly! lol
And then it was---she can talk! Who knew!lol
In the case of supposedly tainted legislative actions, the McCain camp has scrambled to demonstrate that McCain acted independently of any lobbying influence, in keeping with his own policy viewpoints and/or as part of a bipartisan effort. (Somehow we don’t hear much about Obama’s $1M earmark for his wife’s employer.) But Obama hasn’t done much of anything in Washington and hasn’t sponsored or participated in many legislative battles small or large. So his hands and his associations in Washington can remain relatively pristine. And he’s attempted to transform his paucity of experience into an advantage. McCain is a “creature of Washington,” he says. But what is he? What is his comparable record of accomplishment? What are the means by which we can assess his ability to withstand illicit influence?
This is an issue worth discussing. A the rest is just a 'distraction.'
Obama and his willing supporters in the media continue to gloss over gaffes and deflect serious scrutiny.
Michelle and Cindy are really insignificant when compared to the serious issues we face in this election.
D~
All things being equal, you'd be right. But the salient point is that all things aren't equal. And that's why Barack flexed on some of those Repubs. Being critical of her political ideology is perfectly fair. But some of these people exploit the opportunity to belittle and demean a Black woman who has the audacity to buck her prescribed role, and speak without prompting.
Barack knows that they will do whatever possible to exploit people's stereotypical perceptions of over-bearing, big-mouthed Black women. And it was high time that he spoke up.
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Sure! You're right! That's why we Obama Supporters have to work twice as hard with the GOTV, Phone Banking, Supporting Barack financially so he can put an end to McSame/Bush policies! Holla!
Cindy situation is significant in that her husband intervened on her behalf and thwarted a federal investigation that could have resulted in a federal drug conviction among other things.
If a doctor involved with her clinic had not sued her for employment discrimination, we might know nothing about her illegal criminal activity that your average American would have certainly served time in prision for.
I doubt seriously that this has less to do with Michelle as a black woman that it does with her showing a side that could be taken as being unpatriotic.
"I doubt seriously that this has less to do with Michelle as a black woman
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Please,d!
I doubt seriously that this has less to do with Michelle as a black woman that it does with her showing a side that could be taken as being unpatriotic.
Well if she's proud of her country, what does it matter how or when she developed that pride? And why no benefit of the doubt in the first place?
That's why I say this is just an opportunity for some people to perpetuate the stereotype that Black people are less patriotic than others.
I'm disgusted with some of the Black folk who are helping to perpetuate this stereotype.
I doubt seriously that this has less to do with Michelle as a black woman that it does with her showing a side that could be taken as being unpatriotic.
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The problem I have with this is there is nothing that Michelle Obama said that was "unpatriotic." A real problem I'm having is people have the attitude that if you criticize the country in any way (especially if you are non-white), you are "unpatriotic." If you question the country in any way, you are "unpatriotic." We saw it after 9/11, we saw it when this idiotic war started. Sounds more like the Soviet Union than the United States.
Iraq is an "unwinnable" war. There will never be any "victory" in Iraq because the goalposts for "victory" keep changing. Why are we there? Because of WMDs? There were none at the time we charged in, so why are we still there? To rid Iraq of Saddam Hussein? He's dead and gone, so why are we still there? To fight the terrorists? But they weren't in Iraq to begin with, they were and are in Pakistan and Saudi Arabia. Why are we still in Iraq? Nobody can give a clear answer as to why we are still there, which is why Iraq is an unwinnable war. McShame just said we "might" win in 2013. That means we'll have been in Iraq for 10 years. I guess there's still 90 years to go, huh?
But back to Michelle and her so-called lack of patriotism. I see nothing in the past few years to be proud of:
Letting thousands of American citizens die in floods, heat, etc. while you and your buddies sit around eating birthday cake?
25% of American adults are functionally illiterate?
The deficit has been ran up to the extreme?
Our hardworking American troops do not have the health care or equipment they need? Or trying to shut down their benefits when they come home?
The dollar is falling faster than a weave on a hot summer day?
I guess liberating the Iraqi/Afghan people and keeping this country safe from another major terrorist attack don't count, huh?
One thing that kills me is how people always throw up the fact that the troops "don't have the...equipment they need" for a mission that 99% of you don't want them doing in the first place. Doesn't that seem a little backwards?
Ronnie,
I don't think that all black people are unpatriotic. I know that patriotism does not require blind devotion as well. Having said that, I think some of us are too willing to put our individual problems before the good of the country...or put differently, we view the world through a narrow prism, and fail to see the "larger picture."
I don't think that all black people are unpatriotic. I know that patriotism does not require blind devotion as well. Having said that, I think some of us are too willing to put our individual problems before the good of the country...or put differently, we view the world through a narrow prism, and fail to see the "larger picture."
OK ... but is Michelle Obama unpatriotic?
I'm betting you won't get a straight answer from d! ;)
Personally, I don't think so. That specific comment-as well as others-was ill-advised.
"I guess liberating the Iraqi/Afghan people and keeping this country safe from another major terrorist attack don't count, huh?"
-The Iraqi people weren't "liberated"; the US and the Coalition of the Billing occupied Iraq, and are still occupying Iraq.
d, if you think the war in Iraq is so wonderful, enlist, otherwise, STFU.
Personally, I don't think so. That specific comment-as well as others-was ill-advised.
You know she's not unpatriotic, yet here you are--and perhaps elsewhere--advancing the very inference that she is.
I guess liberating the Iraqi/Afghan people and keeping this country safe from another major terrorist attack don't count, huh?
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Liberated from what?
If we are in the business of "liberating" people, why are we not down in Sudan and Kenya and Zimbabwe etc. "liberating" those people? Isn't Sudan a hot spot for terrorism?
Why didn't we help "liberate" Rwanda?
The only reason we went down to Iraq is because "dey tried to kill mah daddy -- GW Bush."
He gone, he dead --- so why the F are we still in Iraq?
I stand corrected! lol
Now that you've made your point---move on!
Been there, done that. Wanted to go back while I was in uniform. Would go back as a civilian.
I'm certain you'll continue to second guess on the sidelines, however.
Ronnie,
I said I didn't think she was. That's just my opinion. There's people on the right who say flat out that she is unpatriotic, and there's some who say flat out that she isn't.
If I wanted to call her unpatriotic, I would. However, I can't support that from this statement. So I take it as what I see it as: a comment that was not smart.
A tyrant.
Which is probably about the only rationale for going to Iraq that I think most people would agree on.
IMO, the reason we didn't go into Rwanda in 1994 has something to do with the results of our actions in Somalia the year before. We "cut and ran" then (even earned the "paper tiger" label from bin Laden), and weren't too willing to go back. Just my thoughts.
-Why would I want to second-guess a clusterfuck?
We shouldn't be there in the first place, but now we are there, an occupying power.
You do it an awful lot. And I'm guessing you have no military experience of your own to pull from.
But we'll use your logic here: if you'd rather not second-guess what you consider a "clusterfuck," STFU and stop talking about it.
What's backwards is that you warmongers would send the troops in without the proper equipment.