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Jack and Jill Politics: Obama Faces Doubts Among "Almost a Dozen" South Carolina Blacks

  • rikyrah · 2 years ago
    A DOZEN?


    They wrote a story based upon a DOZEN PEOPLE?



    WTF?



    This is absolutely ridiculous.



    Absurd comes to mind.



    Pathetic.
  • Chris · 2 years ago
    Actually, it's pretty common for a news organization to do a statistically sound poll that might find overarching themes and then do a limited amount of follow up interviews with some of the people polled or new people.


    In the AP article linked, they talk about a summer poll of SC (statistically sound) that showed black women supporting Clinton at a rate of 59-27.



    My guess is that some of those black women polled have doubts about Obama or they'd be supporting him at a higher level.



    Let's just make an assumption here and say that half of Hillary's black female supporters have doubts about Obama and that is one reason they are not supporting him.



    Now, if 30% of the black population in South Carolina that is expected to vote in a Democratic primary has expressed doubts about Obama in a poll (again, guessing here but it's probably not that far off) and you wanted a few follow up interviews with voters to ask about those concerns, if ypu picked 12 people more or less randomly the odds that at least 3 of your interviewees have Obama doubts (good enough to write your follow up story on) is 74%.



    So, is the AP the one doing the shoddy work here, or is it this blog? 12 voters may not be that many, but you deliberately chose to make that the lede instead of the poll which shows Obama trailing among black females in the state 59-27.



    Couple that with the fact that Obama is outspending the other campaigns by large amounts in SC and something tells me those 12 voters may be more representative than you lead people to believe.
  • NMP · 2 years ago
    Consider the source. Nedra Pickler is an AP reporter who has been writing misleading headlines on or about the Senator for months.
  • rikyrah · 2 years ago
    NMP,


    How are you?



    We've missed you at Skeptical Brotha!





    As far as AP goes, they've been suspect ever since that farcical ' Quiet Riot' story about Obama.
  • dnA · 2 years ago
    Chris,


    There is no reason that lede in that article should have focused on a group of twelve people, and the poll of black women voters was taken before Obama's spending push, which is as recent as last week. Had the lede and headline focused on the poll discussing black women, I wouldn't have said anything it all. As it stands, the headline is inaccurate, and the lede makes assumptions based on information that is incomplete, at best.
  • Homeland Colors · 2 years ago
    The poll is probably on point for that area considering what has been recorded in other polls. I'm more concerned about why Clinton is getting more support than Obama. I'm convinced that the reason Obama is having trouble pulling ahead of Clinton is that older African Americans don't believe that a Black man can win the election. Unfourtunately, if thats true, it won't be because Whites don't vote for Obama, but because Blacks don't.
  • Chris H · 2 years ago
    So in other words Homeland Colors...Obama Faces Doubts Among South Carolina Blacks. Just like the story implied. When was the last newspaper story where they did actual quote generating interviews with more than a dozen or so people.


    For all I know, the AP has done more polling in South Carolina recently that shows similar findings to the previous polls. At the very least I'm sure they are privy to off the record results shared with them by the Clinton, Obama, Edwards campaigns etc.
  • Shamikwa · 1 year ago
    As a 37 year old black woman, I tend to view politics with an open-mind on what someone is all about, and not what they promise to all of us. That is why I find it easy to not vote for Mr. Obama, and instead vote for Senator McCain. I kept looking for something that Mr. Obama would say that would convince me that he is not another brutha out there trying to perpetrate a front to all of us in the black community. First off, I don't like men that lie every time they open their mouths, especially when there's no need to do so. I mean if you're for something then say so, if you're not, then say so too. But to play people for suckas and fools all the time, just gets old after awhile. I mean come on, even his own VP pick dissed him during the Democratic debates, saying that he lacks any experience to do the job. Ms. Clinton trashed Mr. Obama too, and she was right about doing so, cause he is trying to play us all for suckas, just to get our votes. The man even tossed his very own preacher, along Rev. Jackson both under the bus, just cause they was telling people how they felt about him and his lies. He did the same thing in Chicago. He would hang with all us bruthas and sistas till he got what he wanted from us, and then tossed us all under the bus too, just so he could go hang with his white trash friends to get mo' money. Look y'all, Senator McCain may not be able to speak to us like we do to ourselves, but at least the man don't be talking out one side of his mouth to us, and then saying things about us, behind our backs. McCain may be white, but at least he ain't trying to ACT white, and forgetting all about his own kind, just so he can get our vote. Mr. Obama is a fraud and a liar. One minute he says he is a proud black man, the next, he is a proud Pakistani man, then proud white man, then proud this, then proud that. Next thing you know he'll be saying he's a proud Chinese man, or proud Mexican man, just to get their votes too. Look the man is obviously confused about who he is, let along what he plans to do for us. That's why I say we should all vote for Senator McCain, at least he ain't always running around changing who he is to fit in with other peoples. I say give Senator McCain a chance to show us what he can do for us, cause we already know what Mr. Obama did for us in Chicago and ain't nobody seen him help nobdy but himself out. Like one of the bruthas there, who Mr. Obama dissed after he got elected to be our state senator said to us, "The only thing that fool Obama ever helped out in our community, is helped himself to our cash!" He was right. Obama is a cash freak, just look at how much he made this past couple of days ago, he took in $150,000,00.00, but how much of it do you think any of us who helped him get elected will see for our communities in Chicago? I bet not even a penny.