DISQUS

Jack and Jill Politics: Obama Responds to Clinton’s Vice-President Rope-A-Dope Trick

  • DWS · 1 year ago
    Well I feel better now...did the MSM hear him? How about HRC? I think that was pretty darn clear.
  • Faith · 1 year ago
    Haha. I love the use of the words bamboozled and hoodwinked. I'm surprised he hasn't been compared to Malcolm X yet.
  • Anonymous · 1 year ago
    Amen!
  • rikyrah · 1 year ago
    faith,


    he HAS been compared to Malcom X. You don't read the Ben Smith blog at Politico.com. It has come up.
  • Big M · 1 year ago
    VERY Malcolm X-like.


    I have to believe that he wanted to wait until Monday to respond, so that his rebuttal didn't get lost in the news over the weekend. That was a great comeback.



    I am starting to wonder if this whole Obama for VP talk we all hate will now benefit him. If Hillary wants to say he has no experience, he can always now throw out, "Well, why do you suggest I be your VP then?
  • B-Serious · 1 year ago
    I love it!


    And I love the key line: "You have to make a choice in this election."



    I also love the fact that he's putting it out there - he's in first place with more votes, states and delegates. That should be a catch phrase for him. Keep pounding it into people's heads.



    I saw someone on MSNBC actually say that it's been easy to forget that Obama is WINNING because Hillary got most of the headlines last week.



    Keep it up, Obama. Set the record straight. You're off to a good start.
  • freespiritbeautee · 1 year ago
    FIYAH!! IN YOUR FACE BILLARY!


    Ask Al Gore if being the Veep worked for him



    I believe Sen Obama has passed the Commander in Chief threshold. HE'S FIGHTING BACK!! I LOVE IT!! President OBama is on point!!
  • Anonymous · 1 year ago
    Good for him make is loud and clear, I want the real job, since, we all know she wouldn't share power on anything, as she just isn't a team player, and her husband would be second in command. I'm still surprised that she didn't offer him the job of chauffeur seeing how she seems to view black men with her pandering for votes. Driving Miss Hillary, a gig he should be happy to get with her logic!
  • Webb · 1 year ago
    Obama to be Miss Hillary's VP...Never that.


    Are YOU all hearing the news about Eliot Spitzer??? DO YOU ALL KNOW THAT IF HE RESIGNS THAT NEW YORK STATE WILL HAVE IT'S FIRST AFRICAN-AMERICAN GOVERNOR?



    These are WILD TIMES ya'll...AIN'T IT WILD?
  • Anonymous · 1 year ago
    DAMN! DAMN! DAMN!-says Florida Evans
  • justice58 · 1 year ago
    Damn--- I love it so much!
  • BigMik · 1 year ago
    The Republicans are demading Spitzer resign, one of Hillary's boys!!
  • Anonymous · 1 year ago
    I hope it doesn't overtake Obama's news!
  • Big Man · 1 year ago
    Look at Mr. Obama going to that Negro vernacular. Everybody was running to their urban dictionary when he mentioned okidoke. I'm glad he pointed out the insanity of this whole spiel.
  • Anonymous · 1 year ago
    The White House is being sued over Miers and Bolton refusing to testify in the U.S. Attorney firings..


    Five U.S. Soldiers were killed in Iraq today.



    The Iraq war cost will top 3 trillion dollars.



    Drugs are in the drinking water in major U.S. cities.



    Obama is fighting back.

    So, What is "the 24/7 media" talking about???



    Elliot Spritzer. Republicans didn't call for David Vitters resignation , and I'm not going to even talk about Larry Craig. This is a weapon of mass distraction for Bush and Clinton. When did the "the 24/7 media" turn into televised National Enquirer?
  • Black American Princess · 1 year ago
    All I can say is God bless Mr. Obama and his campaign, that video had me about to get fired from work, what with me hollering "preach the word brotha!" and "Well!"


    I hope Missy Ann Clinton was listening.....
  • justice58 · 1 year ago
    Black American Princess,


    I was yelling "Talk now--d@mmit"! "Tell her @ss"! Yeah baby!
  • Nita · 1 year ago
    @webb, are you serious??! oh my...


    and what happens to webb's superdelegate vote?



    and is it true hillary has scrubbed his endorsement from her site?



    and have they determined whether or not he pulled a Guiliani and used taxpayer funds to pay for hookers?
  • Nichelle · 1 year ago
    I have to believe that he wanted to wait until Monday to respond, so that his rebuttal didn't get lost in the news over the weekend. That was a great comeback.


    I was thinking the same thing. He refuted the VP nonsense on ABC News last week, but it didn't get any traction. With Mississippi voting tomorrow, his comments will be in Mississippi newspapers tomorrow and on the news tonight.



    Also, to Rikyrah: FYI, I have posted about my recent experiences canvassing for Barack in Rhode Island last week. I know that you have mentioned in the past that you like on the ground stories.



    Canvassing in Rhode Island for Barack Obama.
  • Phillip M. Bailey · 1 year ago
    Checkmate!


    Billary advertised this strategy as a way to placate Obama voters. It worked to in two ways.



    1.) It made the Clinton/Obama ticket the story.



    2.) Obama is forced to jump off his "Politics of Hope" mantle.



    Still, B-ROCKS response today was the checkmate move. I especially liked Barack's "hoodwinked" and "bamboozled" comment. We all know who he sounded like, don't we? lol



    "...I don’t understand it. If I’m not ready how is it that you think I should be such a great Vice President. Do you understand that?"



    This highlight Billary's entitlement, hubris and nastiness all at once. It peels off the cynical play on fear and her Day One argument.



    Billary communications director Howard Wolfson was asked about how can Barack not be ready to be President but ready to be VP on the Clinton/Obama dream ticket. Wolfson said a lot can change by the convention.



    Say what?!?



    Too bad the NY Gov. jumped on the ho train, cause Obama's killing the Billary bullshit.
  • nita · 1 year ago
    faith, rikyrah, big m... i feel you.


    gotta be careful, though, with the public malcolm x comparisons (like folks calling michelle omarosa and obamarosa) -- because malcolm still inspires unreasoning abject fear and loathing in a lot of people. also, malcolm was assassinated by his own with the help of the police.



    redheaded freckle faced light skinned malcolm is still The World's Scariest Negro. remember the scene in Spike Lee's X where the brother was in the hospital after police brutality and malcolm stopped a potential riot? remember how good that felt? remember how freaked out the police were? not everybody enjoyed that scene. currently, there are already rumblings about how obama has to be stopped because then 'the blacks will be organized' and 'the blacks will get everything ' and 'the blacks will get revenge'. those rumblings are disappointing, because many of them are from Democrats (instead of Republicans or white supremacists regardless of affiliation).



    obama knows what he's doing. i like his methods. i like his courage. i like his skillful use of language. i like his inclusiveness. i like his timing. i like that he doesn't put finger to the wind.



    i don't like where i see all this heading. if he can't be tamed, he's going to be taken out. that's not his fault. that's America's.
  • Nita · 1 year ago
    @ philip, the thing i've noticed about the clinton/obama ticket is that no one is buying it [i]except[/i] clinton supporters and people (male and female) with a generic axe to grind against men. beyond that, [b]no one is buying it.[/b]


    i actually like that it's in the news, because of what big m and nichelle are talking about news cycles; and what b-serious is talking about the REAL message in all this, which is getting it out that Obama is ahead in popular vote and delegate vote.



    even folks who shy away from the uncomfortable historical echoes of 'driving miss daisy' won't ignore the 'that's mighty white of you' magnaminity of second place hillary offering first place obama a place under her. that isn't chutzpah, that's an ugly look into how people sincerely feel about place and status.



    but yeah, keep this in the news. let it be revealed just how ludicrous the offer is. let it percolate. let it fly back in the face of the clintons and their supporters, as it should.
  • Phillip M. Bailey · 1 year ago
    @nita


    I feel your anxiety. I raised this last weekend with Obama's security lapse.



    Barack's campaign has tested not just white America, but much of black America's historical self-loathing and glass ceiling.



    I have the same thoughts and feelings. Still, today is the best time to expose liberal paternalism laced in racism. I believe now is the time to unite a new coalition of younger Americans to rip those prejudices to shreds.



    Obama has matured and his skills have improved immensely since this campaign began. I feel he's willing to learn from mistakes. His initial boyish naive ideas have been tested and he's risen to the challenge.
  • Luv · 1 year ago
    That's how you break your foot off ins someone's ass without getting indignant. Too bad this Spitzer nonsense is taking up so much air.
  • Phillip M. Bailey · 1 year ago
    @nita


    Yes, I believe it has now flown in the face of Billary & Co. However, initially it was working for Billary.



    Barack has impeccable timing. He let the Clinton/Obama bullshit simmer long enough and flipped the Day One argument on its ear.



    From now on, the experience argument can be referenced under Clinton/Obama. Great way of using white entitlement on itself.



    Also, can we get he YouTube video of these remarks? I'd love to post it on my blog today.
  • Der Vandernder Yid · 1 year ago
    When second-wave feminism attacks:
    http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/3/10/144252/803/258/473658



    "If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position. And if he was a woman (of any color) he would not be in this position. He happens to be very lucky to be who he is. And the country is caught up in the concept."



    I don't see Ms. Ferraro volunteering to change places with Mr. Obama.
  • Cameron · 1 year ago
    That response made my day. Obama got his groove back! Hopefully the MSM will get it that B-Rock's in it to win it and not to play the good submissive kneegrow toward the Clintons.
  • Anonymous · 1 year ago
    Re: der vandernder yid @ 3.19pm


    Ferraro's comments are sad & hilarious at the same time given that she supports HRC.



    If HRC were a man & had based his 'experience and readiness' for the POTUS by virtue of being an elected official's spouse, he would have been laughed out of town. It's because HRC is a woman that she can get away w/this BS in my view.



    The glaring double standards in this election are a bit much at times....
  • Ultramagnetic · 1 year ago
    This was his best verbal smackdown in a while. Its getting lots of airplay among the MSM.
  • chicanaskies · 1 year ago
    Get 'em 'boma!!


    Now I'm holding my breath to see when Hillary supporters are gonna start calling him arrogant...
  • Anonymous · 1 year ago
    Here is the link for the video


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rtal0bsnJTQ
  • Nita · 1 year ago
    @Der Vandernder Yid , thank you for the link. That's disgusting. Utterly disgusting.


    DHinMI's Daily Kos thread: The Ugliness Behind Ferraro's Slur is tearing her apart... and so are the Kossacks.



    I'm glad.



    I fear Denver.
  • TruthSeeker · 1 year ago
    This was great..It's all over CNN.


    I am pleased and relieved Obama's responded sternly. I was kinda getting worried there.



    I am so sick of Hillary the narcissistic enabler and Bill, her cellulitic, narcissistic sexual predator husband. Obama is a decent human being who deserves respect. No one has ever seen a phenomenon like him in politics..everything he does is carefully thought out and innovative. Take a look at his website, listen to his speeches..this man is amazing...and you have village idiots like Rick Sanchez on CNN suggesting Obama cheated 'cause he used an innovative method to campaign over the internet. Then dumbass Sanchez says of course Obama will accept the no 2 position...dumb.



    I have to give Cafferty props though..he's really been shoving reality down the unwilling throats of the viewers.



    That's my rant for the day.
  • TruthSeeker · 1 year ago
    I'm still ticked off at that woman Samantha Power. Really, how does an amazingly intelligent woman go into an interview and carelessly answer a call from someone in the campaign in front of the reporter??? Then, she tells the reporter what was said on the call. That is such an obvious no-no! Why would she trust a complete stranger??..silly silly. Here is a woman who has so much to offer but lets naivety and a lack of self control rob her of it.


    Then, Hillary, the feminist demands Samantha be fired for calling her a name. Girl power! Free speech!
  • hscfree · 1 year ago
    Obama's response to this sham olive branch extension was on point, and it needed to be said. How dare HRC, in second place, try to "give" magnanimity. Please. How many ways can one say "loud and wrong" to her?
  • Black American Princess · 1 year ago
    But wait, have yall heard this latest incident of poor-poor-woe- is-me-white-women-have-it-harder- than-Barack crap from Geraldine Ferraro??


    http://www.dailybreeze.com/lifeandculture/ci_8489268
  • The Angry Independent · 1 year ago
    He should have been stronger in rejecting this earlier on. He should have nixed it immediately.


    But better late than never.



    Such an obvious attempt to trick voters...and to undermine his viability.



    I don't know how much more of Clinton I can take.
  • Phillip M. Bailey · 1 year ago
    This just in from Countdown w/ Keith. The new sales pitch is that caucus delegates should not count. According to the Clinton campaign caucuses are un-democratic. Alas, Billary is trailing Barack even in primary delegates. They're hoping to overturn Barack's lead in the popular vote.


    Also, Hillary's foreign policy experience took a hit today.



    Nobel winner: Hillary Clinton's 'silly' Irish peace claims



    Lord Trimble of Lisnagarvey, the Nobel Peace Prize winner and former First Minister of the province said, "I don’t know there was much she did apart from accompanying Bill [Clinton] going around."
  • Phillip M. Bailey · 1 year ago
    Ouch!
  • Angela · 1 year ago
    Saw Donna Brazile on CNN today. She told Wolf Blitzer she thought Hillary's VP comments were meant to woo some of the black voters back.


    Also, Chris Matthews replayed Tom Daschle's comments yesterday on Meet the Press about the number two person offering the number one person the number two position. Ha!
  • Anonymous · 1 year ago
    Although this will probably make him seem arrogant, he needs to set some
    benchmarks rather than letting her make all of them, thus setting the tone. He needs to say she needs to win Miss, Oregon, etc... If done the

    right way this can work!
  • MZ · 1 year ago
    That is an excellent point, anon @5:35 - if he challenges her on the next few primaries, then she'll have to explain why they don't count.
  • TruthSeeker · 1 year ago
    I agree...he is playing a strictly defensive position. He has to challenge her on the "untrustworthy" theme.
  • Ms.Martin · 1 year ago
    We all know that Hillary thinks that because voters (some, but certainly not me) have said that they would vote for either candidate, that people who are hesitant because of Obama's so-called "lack of experience."


    I wish people would understand that we would be much safer and looked after with Senator Obama's intelligence, wisdom and character. This campaign has shown that Billary & Co.'s tactics and desire to win at any cost, could lead this country to a place we really wouldn't want to go.



    I agree about Cafferty.



    What do you all think about the girl in the 3am ad. Isn't that just Karma coming back to bite you in the ass. She's being interviewed everywhere and calling the ad fear-mongering and talk about how much she supports Obama. I love it!



    The win for Hasert's seat in Illinois has been credited to Obama's help in some reports. Hopefully, he will get some traction from this too.
  • caged lion · 1 year ago
    Does anyone remember the Chris Rock monologue about Colin Powell, and a black man being asked to run "with someone he can beat"?
  • TruthSeeker · 1 year ago
  • Anonymous · 1 year ago
    "Does anyone remember the Chris Rock monologue about Colin Powell, and a black man being asked to run "with someone he can beat"?"




    You can see that clip here:



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cd5p3iD9WGs



    Leaving aside the different political parties involved, and the fact that things have changed since 1996, a lot of what Rock jokes about remains relevant, especially the idea that a black man should be happy with second place.



    - KXB
  • Anonymous · 1 year ago
    Actually this race is very, very tight and the vp thing is a legitimate question. It was even asked of both candidates several weeks ago as part of a debate ...to rousing applause I might add. Nobody was shooting scalding tears of outrage out of their behinds then. Why now?


    Also, It wasn't clinton that proposed Obama as vp. She was asked by a reporter last week and she simply responded. Period.



    Much ado about nothing.