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Re: Obama Wins Mississippi

jelana — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:58:00 -0000

Clinton received 24% from Republican
crossover votes in Miss. Ferraro

RSIGNS so she can speak freely!

Re: Obama Wins Mississippi

Angela — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:16:00 -0000

hi everyone, please read this article at the www.jedreport.com

It is about the Republicans gaming the Dem primaries for Clinton. I'm traveling now and don't have time, but this should be addressed by the msm and we need people to start asking them to bring this up when they talk about Clintons numbers. The numbers are not real wins for Clinton and also the superdelegates need to know that we all know what is going on here!

Re: Obama Wins Mississippi

TruthSeeker — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:35:00 -0000

heh heh..

Tucker kicks Clinton adviser's ass:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=...

Re: Obama Wins Mississippi

Lolo — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:22:00 -0000

Tax returns. Where are those xeroxed copies of their tax returns?

Vaggie Ferrarro is just a distraction from what they don't want to pay attention to.

Re: Obama Wins Mississippi

Anderkoo — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:00:00 -0000

And sorry, back to that radio interview: if anyone has any doubt that Ferraro is carrying water for Hillary through her racist dogwhistle BS, listen carefully towards the end of the discussion: not once but TWICE she delivers two very carefully micro-crafted attacks from NH regarding Obama's "present" votes on abortion. What's brilliant about playing Ferraro and Bill is that they're "crazy" and the media treat them that way -- letting Hillary "distance" herself from them, without "denouncing." It's sick, it's cynical, and it's happening.

Jack, Jill -- time for a full story on this????

Re: Obama Wins Mississippi

cm — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 15:35:00 -0000

This is some funny stuff.

“It's fairly reprehensible that Geraldine Ferraro said "if Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position, and if he was a woman (of any color) he would not be in this position"...But in a weird way, there's much less to this comment than meets the eye.

After all, Obama is not a woman, nor a white man. He's who he is. To say that if he were different, things would be different is to say nothing at all. As a white woman, maybe he would have led a military coup and established himself dictator. Who knows!?

Similarly, if Hillary Clinton were a black man, it's unlikely that she would have been a national political figure for the past 15 years, as it's unlikely that she would have married another man from Arkansas, and unlikely that the country would have put an interracial, same sex couple in the White House.”

http://www.prospect.org/csn...

Re: Obama Wins Mississippi

Anderkoo — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 15:27:00 -0000

My point re: Limbaugh effect is that it's a big reason why whites have been "turning away" from Obama -- these were the same folks who were (and will) vote for the Republicans, now showing up in the other column. That part of the story needs to be corrected.

Re: Obama Wins Mississippi

justice58 — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 15:27:00 -0000

"Did Monica Lewinski endorse anybody...do u know?? We can use her too...everybody needs to do their part.
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Re: Obama Wins Mississippi

Anderkoo — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 15:25:00 -0000

On Mississippi, see potential "Limbaugh effect" : http://www.huffingtonpost.c... (also on DKos).

Geraldine Ferraro strikes me as an angry, angry woman. There's a very insightful conversation with her here:

http://www.onpointradio.org... (30:20 onwards).

At one point she attacks a female caller for not being thankful enough for feminism.

This is the same crap that Obama had to deal with early on from the black establishment. But he managed to find a way through it (the "Joshua Generation" idea). Hillary, being of that generation, is still in the battle, not of it.

Re: Obama Wins Mississippi

B-Serious — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 15:25:00 -0000

Hey everyone. Make sure to set your tivos.

In case you haven't heard, Keith Olbermann will be making another one of his Special Comments tonight.

For the first time, he's targeting a DEMOCRAT . . . Hillary Clinton!

Link: http://www.huffingtonpost.c...

This should be interesting. His special comments usually don't hold back. I'll be interested to see how he approaches Hillary.

Re: Obama Wins Mississippi

cm — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:43:00 -0000

marc said: obama has shown a healthy irony some times, i think this, not hitting back in kind, can prove the ideal weapon.

Agreed. Obama on Today was cool as a cucumber. Made a joke about how the sure path to the White House is being an African American named Barack Obama. When asked if he thought it was a racist comment, he said no, it was just divisive politics of slicing & dicing the electorate. Gotta love the guy!

Re: Obama Wins Mississippi

marc — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:32:00 -0000

gosh, i tried to speak against fear and the next comment tunes in with "i was afraid".

yeah, it's hard out there and it is nasty.

but i suggest humor as a means of deflecting fear and going into the counter offensive.

obama has shown a healthy irony some times, i think this, not hitting back in kind, can prove the ideal weapon.

if folks are ridiculous, well then let's just laugh!

Re: Obama Wins Mississippi

Anonymous — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:25:00 -0000

I was afraid that something like this would happen. A while back I commented that all of the cries of 'racism' could create a 'campaign that cried wolf' scenario. Now, with Ferraro's remark, we seem to have reached a saturation point. Right or wrong, the cries seem to increasingly be falling on deaf ears.

What to do now? Hillary has said we should all get back to the issues. Ferraro is not backing down and may whites will sympathize with her, not because they think she is speaking the truth, but that so many whites often fear being unjustly accused of racism. Many white people I know, don't know how to identify black(African-Americans or black?) and worry that any use of black slang in conversation, even if used in proper context, will be seen as offensive.

Re: Obama Wins Mississippi

marc — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:20:00 -0000

oh puhlease, folks, all those who now appear to be fearing that the ground is slipping away from under obama, take a little break.

this is what elections are about. the fight continues, uncertainty until the end. that's nothing new.

obama is a capable and viable candidate, and one doesn't have to be black or a politics insider or a deluded idealist to see that. there is nothing to be seen, he actually IS capable, and he remains viable as long as the race isn't over. little ups and downs mean zip.

obama will continue the fight against that woman, and it might actually be her who soon offers him the biggest help. her rethoric has already spun out of control.

and once the primaries are over, let him deal then with maccain. the main race has not even begun.

also then he'll be capable, he'll stay viable, and besides him maccain will turn out to be the bag of hot air i believe he is.

obama is in the race, and he might very well win it.

Re: Obama Wins Mississippi

Rhonda — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:07:00 -0000

BTW there is a black guy on MSNBC right now who is claiming that Ferraro's comments are true and are being taken out of context. He would is probably a "token" is put up to the task of siding with Ferraro. I swear. I give up. I heard the comments in its context and its worse than just reading it so please. The recording has all over YouTube for over a week. I have heard them. She said the same thing in 1988 about Jesse Jackson!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He comeback after the hype was

""Any time anybody does anything that in any way pulls this campaign down and says let's address reality and the problems we're facing in this world, you're accused of being racist, so you have to shut up," Ferraro said. "Racism works in two different directions. I really think they're attacking me because I'm white. How's that?"

Why are people not talking about it. They are acting like Obama and others are trying to cry foul and play the race card?? What the hell. I'm so done. The media are a bunch of idiots were the hell do they get these pundits and can I sign up please...I'm much smarter.

Imagine if it were the other way around. The Obama fundraiser would have to cut all ties...the person would not be able to raise money for him, he would have to "return" the money...I dont know. You could tell that people love that she said it...they probably were all feeling the same way.

Re: Obama Wins Mississippi

Anonymous — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:04:00 -0000

Did Monica Lewinski endorse anybody...do u know?? We can use her too...everybody needs to do their part.
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Watch out sister...don't cross to the dark side!

Re: Obama Wins Mississippi

Rhonda — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:54:00 -0000

I live in New York and its a quick drive away from Philadelphia and Scranton and New Haven etc... I'm heading out there this weekend. He NEEDS to win Pennsylvania. I want him to stick mostly (70%) to getting those white blue collar workers that Hillary is banking on and I and the thousands of volunteers need to bumrush the whole state but especially Philly, the Philly suburbs and the parts right around New York and NYC. Penns demographics are tricky but we can do it. Obama pulled 92& of the black vote in Mississippi. The 70% white vote for Mizz Hillary is expected in Mississippi...its Mississippi point blank. I got lost in Mississippi right around a swamp in the delta on a road trip...I thought my life was over. We know the history...the fact that Obama won Idaho, Wyoming, Colorado, Utah, Iowa, one of the Dakotas, Maine...hello??? Not buying that.

I am going to Philly this weekend and like every weekend, I'm going to the city. I need to get every black person that is 18 years old registered (by March 24) and I need to tell them why Obama is the superior choice...no sitting back people!! Then I have friends at Penn State, Bucknell, Villanova, UPenn, Temple, Bryn Mawr, Carnegie Mellon and the list goes on. I will get there butts up too. It is a fight and I dont mean to sound dramati put Obama has to win this. If he does not then Hillary will be stronger than ever and the media will be right there in the bed with her Bill, Mayor Nutter, Maggie Willams, Geraldine Ferraro, Howard Wolfson, Stephanie Tubbs Jones and the rest.

Did Monica Lewinski endorse anybody...do u know?? We can use her too...everybody needs to do their part.

Re: Obama Wins Mississippi

Black American Princess — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:30:00 -0000

To anonymous @ 10:26. I found the list of all the superdelegates and who they support here http://demconwatch.blogspot...

I'm in the process of identifying the Black Klinton superdelegates so I know who to barrage with my impending phone call/letter writing campaign. They gon have to explain to me how they can support their girl's blatant racism directed towards their OWN PEOPLE.

Thanks for lighting a fire under me!!

Re: Obama Wins Mississippi

evita — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:29:00 -0000

Cat is out of the bag on TEXAS. Front page on AOL news.

http://news.aol.com/politic...

Cited DailyKOS just as JJPolitics.

Is it me or has reporting turned into surfing the web for hot stories INSTEAD of looking for the truth.

Better late than never.

Re: Obama Wins Mississippi

Felicia — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:09:00 -0000

This is response to Anon 5:36. I have said in the past that I will start a movement in concert with other organizations to "sit out the vote" if Clinton steals this nomination.

Clinton doesn't need the black vote right now, but in the general election--when the past elections ('00 and '04) have been so close--will need the black vote. I am calling on all blacks--and MS was a bellwether to prove that this could work--and all voters offended by the Clintons' "Kichen Sink Tactics" to absolutely not vote for her.

Now, I know there are some scary marys out there who will say "what about the courts." My response to that: nothing has ever come without sacrifice. When blacks participated in the Birmingham Bus Boycott do you think life was a picnic for them in the following years? When police officers unleashed dogs and firehoses on women and children do you think that was enjoyable for them? We will never get anywhere if fear paralyzes us from action (or inaction.

Sit Out the Vote '08

Re: Obama Wins Mississippi

cm — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 10:31:00 -0000

Anonymous posting at 5:36 am seems to be on drugs or is just plainly a moron. Geez, talk about a little knowledge being dangerous...

Tonight in Mississippi the real victory went to Clinton. How? AP reports that she won 70% of the white vote. This shows a clear backlash against the clear racism shown by black voters who are going 90% for Obama.

That's right, blacks voting this way is due to racism but whites voting the other way are only reacting to black racism.

The DNC and Democratic party insiders know he has no chance of carrying the southern states in the GE if this trend continues.

Yes, because democrats so reliably carry southern states in presidential elections... And even if we accept your silly premise, then yeah, it totally makes sense to conclude that Hillary CAN win southern states based on the fact that she generally loses them in blow out fashion.

Couple that with the fact that he has not won a single battleground state

You mean like Missouri?

Re: Obama Wins Mississippi

Submariner — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 10:04:00 -0000

I think the Democratic Party is in the middle of some tricky surgery right about now. But the patient is Hillary and the scalpel is Florida.

Re: Obama Wins Mississippi

Anonymous — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 09:47:00 -0000

I disagree with the anonymous poster above regarding the Florida Democratic opposition to a mail-in ballot. A mail-in vote was being touted by Hillary supporters as the best and cheapest way to do a "re-vote." But the mail-in vote favors older voters and richer voters, i.e., Hillary supporters. I have also read commentary that says black voters in Florida opposed a mail-in vote.

I think it is good news that there is opposition to a mail-in vote in Florida, because this makes it less likely that there will be any re-vote there at all. The "re-vote" is just a scam cooked up by Hillary supporters. They know she can't win without it.

And I think it is unlikely that the Florida delegates will be seated based on the illegitimate January primary; the outcry would be too great, and Howard Dean (DNC chair) opposes it.

Re: Obama Wins Mississippi

Nquest — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 09:27:00 -0000

Yeah, the White vote in Wyoming just left Obama in droves. That's why he didn't win Wyoming. He needed the White vote there and couldn't get because of the Oprah effect.

lol

Re: Obama Wins Mississippi

ndn5898 — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 08:56:00 -0000

Anonymous,

Oprah did not tell black voters to move en mass to Barack... she told them to take a closer look... at that point Hillary had them until her husband came out and told them how he really felt... Don't blame this on Oprah!!! Hillary would rather Mccain be president than Obama and she will get her wish and in return she will enhance her new courtship with her new "republican" fan base.

Trust me we will be fine if Barack loses.. it will hurt, but we come from a people who have had to endure way worse than this..I don't know if the Democratic party will be so lucky..

My grandmother always said be suspicious of liberals... at least you know where you stand with the other side.