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Obama’s backers see ‘dream ticket’ as nightmare
Started by baratunde aka jack turner · 10 months ago
From The Hill.com:
Sen. Obamaâs backers see dream ticket as nightmare
By Alexander Bolton
Posted: 05/19/08 08:03 PM [ET]
Sen. Barack Obamaâs (D-Ill.) allies in Congress do not want Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) as his running mate, even thou ... Continue reading »
Sen. Obamaâs backers see dream ticket as nightmare
By Alexander Bolton
Posted: 05/19/08 08:03 PM [ET]
Sen. Barack Obamaâs (D-Ill.) allies in Congress do not want Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) as his running mate, even thou ... Continue reading »
1 year ago
She does nothing for the ticket and having her on it would just remind Black people how easy it was for her to attack us when she began losing primary after primary.
I could live with an Obama/Anyone-But-Hillary ticket.
1 year ago
CPL,
Me too. Though I am inclined to not want ANY of HIllpatine's supporters and would prefer for Obama to choose from his long list of supporters, or even someone who was neutral..
She brings nothing to the ticket, but garbage and baggage.
1 year ago
I so agree with you Rikyrah. It would be a f-ing nightmare ticket!I wish people like Harold Ford Jr. & Dan Abrams would STFU about it!
They're pushing this because they feel sorry for Hillary that she lost! Too f-ing bad! That's the way the game is played!
1 year ago
1 year ago
but she would likely alienate as many as she brings, if any at all.
and i never thought i would say this, ever, because until this race, bill clinton was my hero: i am tired of the clintons. tired of them. i want them to go away.
i was stunned to hear her quoting karl rove last night on all of the news programs. KARL FUCKING ROVE? she may as well be channeling satan. and to quote him as if he has some authority?
that along with terry mccauliffe's complete ass suck with fox news, that "Fox news! fair and balanced! you called it!" reaction after one of her wins, somewhere. . . .
i don't want ANY candidate who doesn't recognize the danger inherent in what has happened with the media in this country.
the single greatest danger to our way of life right this minute is the wholly biased, corporate owned media.
if we are not informed, we cannot fight these motherfuckers, and we are not informed.
fox news is the worst offender, blatantly operating as the propaganda vehicle of the republican party. but the others aren't much better.
no to fox news
no to republican "advisors"
no to hillary clinton.
1 year ago
They're pushing this because they feel sorry for Hillary that she lost! Too f-ing bad! That's the way the game is played!
Actually, Abrams just wants the Clinton drama - it's good for ratings.
Ford understands that Obama is on the cusp of rendering The DLC- the institution he hitched his political fortunes to - IRRELEVANT.
Hillpatine as VP is the ONLY WAY that wretched group stays relevant.
1 year ago
That knocks Edwards out with the lawmakers too. The two time loser is not a fresh face and he has fewer credentials than Obama. I wouldn't vote for an Obama ticket with Hillary or Edwards on it but I'm an independent so my vote is not automatically pledged to the dem nominee.
1 year ago
Plus, Virginia needs him. Can't have any chance of George Allen or Jim Gilmore getting back in there. Ugh.
1 year ago
I saw the segment where this came up and I got the idea that it was the host that was pushing this idea on Rep. Jones. Lots of cross talk and delay problems while the host was trying to push the idea. Rep Jones never really said she wanted a dream ticket and the host was "pushing" the idea
1 year ago
1 year ago
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Stephanie Tubb-Jones was on MSNBC & I heard her say Barack need Hillary on the ticket & vice versa!
Not no but---Hell No!
1 year ago
Can you please give Michael Fauntroy a call?
"More than ever, Obama needs Clinton"
He gives 4 reasons:
1. The Obamaniacs have yet to accept that he may be the weakest Democratic nominee since Dukakis. Clinton would have already won if it were winner take all. And there are racial and cultural roadblock between Obama and the White House.
2. Hillary can be a better runningmate than anyone that has been mentioned.
3. 41-point beating he took in West. V indicates a seriours problem in states like Penn, OH, KY etc.
4. He needs someone to divert attention from race to something else. Clinton can do that....
Ok...come on now...really?
1 year ago
BUT, the reason he shouldn't bring Hillary along is because of BILL. It is unprecedent (sp) and I dare say just too uncomfortable to have a former President in the White House as the "2nd Spouse". Former leaders should go tend to their libraries or good causes or become ambassadors -- not still lurk around the oval office always offering ' this is what I would do advice.'
I just have a hard time thinking that Bill & Hill would just steal the show -- all the time -- and keep the public distracted from the real whitehouse leadership duties.
1 year ago
All Clinton brings to the ticket is trouble to a magnatude unknown. Why do you think Rush, Hannity, and Rove are shilling for her. Because they know they got the dirt to bring that b!@#$ down. Further, if Clinto supporters can't find it in themselves to support Obama then let them support the other candidate because they wern't democrats anyway. This issue with "White working class voters" is BULLSHIT!
America is not just hungry for change in the generic sense, but change that represents real character and real integrety. Where hungry for someone with conviction. Someone that not only has substance on the issues, but has a life of substance. A candidate who speaks truth to power, and that candidate is Obama.
1 year ago
I think she's terrific. She really knows how to communicate.
I think we need McCaskill to keep her Senate seat in Missouri.
1 year ago
You cannot be serious...Oh please. Some people need to shut up.
Hillary and the Republicans are in bed together right now it seems. Quoting Karl Rove?? She has to be crazy.
1 year ago
However I agree Craig, we need to have certain people keep their seats in the senate.
Obama is the nominee at this point period. I think that with his message of new politics and change, he needs to have someone on the ticket that represents that. Clinton does not represent that. She will contradict his message.
1 year ago
i was stunned to hear her quoting karl rove last night on all of the news programs. KARL FUCKING ROVE? she may as well be channeling satan. and to quote him as if he has some authority?
Hillary's really starting to become detached from reality isn't she? I mean if that's all she has to hold on to, wow. I almost feel sorry for her but she brought a lot of this on herself.
1 year ago
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xq8aopATYyw There is a fraud case going on right now against the Clinton's that nobody seems to bring up..Barack will get enough swiftboating..he does NOT need HRC's baggage too. PLUS why would you select as your VP somebody in your own party who said: "I have a lifetime of experience that I will bring to the White House. Sen. John McCain has a lifetime of experience that he'd bring to the White House. And Sen. Obama has a speech he gave in 2002," GMAFB
1 year ago
Conservatives in the south won't vote for McCain anyway.
Clinton and her supporters are going to divide the Democratic party on gender lines now and then try to win the general election by splitting the women's vote. McCain will still win white men and Clinton's place on the ticket will make it perfectly fine for a wary Hispanic to vote for McCain. It will also make things a mess for Obama in Michigan, Pennsylvania, Ohio and Florida with Bill Clinton running around reminding everyone he'll still be around.
No matter who his runningmate, Obama would HAVE to win Iowa, Virginia, Indiana, North Carolina, Mississippi, Louisiana, Missouri, Montana, Georgia, Nebraska, New Mexico, Nevada, Colorado, at least one of the Dakotas, and pull off a major upset in Texas. Scatch that. With the Clintons on the ticket Texas is certainly out.
The fact that Clinton will be campaigning in Florida on Wednesday leads me to believe she knows exactly how to work this.
The more people she can get pissed at Obama before or during the convention, the better her argument to McCain.
Remember, the GOP convention is AFTER Denver.
Why do you think Ferraro would come out today and suggest she'll vote for McCain in the general election?
They think they're slick.
I see them.
And Obama/Gore ticket is the only one that can beat a McCain/Clinton ticket.
1 year ago
I forgot to post the link. You can read it in all its glory.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-fauntroy-phd/more-than-ever-obama-need_b_102579.html
1 year ago
I worked for Jackson County, MO when Claire McCaskill was the prosecutor for Jackson County. She was later elected Auditor for the State of MO and then Senator.
She is every bit of what she appears to be. She would be a great Veep. They would make a great pair.
She is a a very strong woman with principles. She fights the good fight.
She also promoted minorities in her office to positons of significance and I imagine she continues to bring the good people along.
There were some Hillary-like Democrats in MO who did not support their African-American counterparts and Claire didn't play the game.
Hillary could learn from her.
1 year ago
I doubt we will see her on the ticket and you linked an article from the field here not too long ago that made a compelling argument against the Dream ticket.
Obama needs to use his surrogates to play up the fact that he would look weak and use her arrogance and sense of entitlement against her.
I am rooting for Obama-Hagel ticket.
1 year ago
Geraldine need to move on and get over the fact that Hillary lost! Hillary lost! Deal with it! The Superdelegates are not going to rule against the will of the people! I really wish I could say what she can do with her d%%% vote!
1 year ago
Isn't Hagel Republican? I think I read something on HuffPo today about a poll where Obama's numbers went down with Hagel on the ticket.
1 year ago
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Well, brushing your shoulders off is sexist.
So is the word "periodically."
If you tell Hillary to get out of the race, you are telling her to sit down in the back of the bus.
But if you tell her she can stay, you are condescending.
Obama calling the reporter "sweetie" is sexist against Hillary.
The MSNBC on-air staff are all leaders within the Democratic party. Chris Matthews said some sexist stuff, so Obama needs to be held responsible.
And let's not forget that Obama's wife is hateful, unpatriotic, ungrateful, angry and has an attitude.
But, if you say that Obama is not sexist, you are calling Ferraro and company racist and hating on them because they're white.
And that, my friends, is the lesson for the day.
1 year ago
1 year ago
http://thepage.time.com/2008/05/20/mccaskill-targets-ferraro-for-comments-on-obama/
“Frankly, it is bitterly disappointing to me that a woman like Geraldine Ferraro would actually publicly say she is thinking about supporting John McCain, and what he would represent to women in this country.”
“Really, the issues are so much more important than the people here.”
1 year ago
Other VP choices
Sam Nunn of GA--will turn GA blue and respected national sec expert
Then there is Rendell, Clinton man being shopped--yes he would bring in PA but the GOP would use that vid of him praising Farakhan
Anon 1.25 brushing you shoulders off tell ladies to do it as weill but had he used another song like 99 problem
I got 99 problems but...
1 year ago
"Ladies is pimps, too, go and brush your shoulders off."
Had Obama used "99 Problems,"I got 99 problems but a b**** aint one"
sorry for the typos
1 year ago
Blah Blah Fuckity Blah! Hillary Lost!