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the woman is losing her mind...
On Iraq, "Who drove the bus into the ditch? Not cerebral or academic, he said it in words everyone can understand. She's an enabler.
"Having a debate with John McCain where your positions were similar until you ran for President..."
Church!
I just does not rile up her white women base. You know, "she is being picked on". I can't beleive she referenced SNL. Ha.
Hillary's taking cues from comedian Tina Fey, "Bitch is the new black". She came out in full Queen B mode tonight. She dissed Tim Russert and Brian Williams.
Barack, just play it cool. Answer decisively, stick and move. When she gets ugly, do like my hometown legend, Muhammad Ali, rope-a-dope.
but funny, lol.
And, notice how she makes (what she thinks is) a joke, pauses for laughter, and no one laughs?
-She's doing it because she's desperate.
I must say that MSNBC does a better job at cornering the candidates than CNN. They are pretty serious...I like it!!
Thanks, Tim.
Tim gives Obama opportunities to give the kind of straight answers that Tim actually likes.
Now Ms. Ann, on the other hands, HATES Tim Russert! She wanted to slap him for that tax return question.
The smile and the cackling laugh are killin' me! Plus, she thinks staring at him is going fluster him.
She is so pissed at that uppity, Negro, she just can not contain her hatred!
I love how he can alternate between intellectual and then break it down for the common man. What was that comment, "drive the bus into the ditch". The audience really loved that one. I think middle America definitely understands that one too.
Reject/Denounce, unguard!
Hillary is jumping on every point just to get a rise about of Barack. He's playing this so cool. I don't know if any of you have read the literature on the cool pose in black males as a negative trait, but Barack is employing that strategy to empower him against her cynical attacks.
I noticed, and I loved him for it. Michelle better be glad I'm happy with my man!
(kidding, of course)
However, I wonder about white voters who have just been introduced to Obama's church through the lens of that question.
My jewish pro-hillary professor who compared Obama to Hitler will probably jump all over this tommorow.
They have been carrying on with this for a long, long time and Louis coming out praising Obama didnt help.
Thanx Tim
yes, that name and church just shot up on google.
Hillary fumbled the name of Putin's successor. Experience! ;)
SHE CANNOT SAY IT!
Re; Trinity United, most white folks just don't understand black churches. I'm not trying to worry about what they think.
Pastor Jeremiah Wright is a dynamic speaker, I've been listening to him on the radio for years!! He speaks truth to power.
Obama wins.
RE:I'm pretty familar with Mr. Wright myself and i like what he says but in our country where white people make up 80% of a the pop. which can make or break obama, their understanding is important. We all get it, i know for a fact many whites may or may not. However I think that he did enough to deflate any confusion about it. the other issues that were debated are more important.
Those of us in Illinois have been trying to tell folks this.
There are PLENTY of politicians in Illinois - BOTH Democrats & Republicans, who SHOULD be walking the floors at night, thinking about what Rezko can say.
Barack Obama, however, is sleeping like a baby next to Michelle, if you know what I mean.
Hill and the repubs will blow this up as much as possible
The thing that gets me is this nonsense about Trinity being full of ' radicals'. GMAFB. It's full of 'Strivers' like Barack and Michelle - the folks most connected into ' The System' in our community. The folks that conservatives would point to in order to beat up on the underclass and say , ' see, they achieve, why can't you?', but because they have some self-pride and self-respect, suddenly they are the second coming of Angela Davis and Huey P. Newton. ::::rme::::
Chris Matthews is unbelievable sometimes. When Jesse Jackson brought up that Barack could not talk about his race the way Hilary talks about her gender, Chris ignored that point and instead commented on how Barack being seen as "international" helps him.
Also, the woman who asked her to help with her situation with her child? After spending three million dollars? I'm not poor or broke but uhm, I don't think that having three mill to spend on healthcare is exactly talking to the middle class, or did I miss something?
The more clips I see of this women,I start to think she may be afflicted with a mental condition. I mean this as no offense to anyone suffering from mental health issues.
On another note, I'm through complaining about Stephanie Tubbs, Hillary can have her. I think she's actually hurting her campaign more than she is helping it. Why is she allowed to speak?
Well, at least he didn't call Obama - ' Third World' - he's done that on more occasions than I can count...and, he would swear to you that he's doing it as a compliment...LOL
comment is duly noted, and we hear ya.
Please check in again and post some more.
Senator Clinton is crazy than a MF!
I'm with Barack; mandatory means a determinable amount of business for someone.
You have it totally reversed on the Farrakhan question. It's not Obama's worst moment of the debate cycle. It was Clinton's. As a Jewish-American, I can't tell you how offensive I found her attempt to hijack the question and attempt to score cheap political points. If it wasn't clear before that she views my people as just another ethnic group she can pander to, it's perfectly clear now. I was sick to my stomach. "Hey look at me! I hate anti-Semites more than Obama does!" What an insulting attitude to take. Before tonight I was planning on supporting the Democratic nominee no matter what, even though I voted for Obama in my state's primary. But Hillary crossed a line today, and I can only hope she isn't nominated. Otherwise I may have to make an ugly choice in November.
That commenter hit the ball out of the park.
Obama quicly clarified how his position on NAFTA had never changed when he was questioned about a supposed discrepancy.
I seriously believe the American public sees Hillary for the liar and would be opportunist that she truly is.
The inuendo surrounding Trinity Church has been out there for quite some time now. That's actually what they thought would put him out early. They are simply rehashing old fears that have been visited. It will be easier this time to refute.
Did anyone see where Trinity is being investigated by the IRS for supposed political activity that surrounds a speech that Obama gave. the penalty would be that they would lose their non-profit status.
Hillary was so open about her gender being this big plus, god forbid Obama ever did the same thing. There is an obvious double standard.
CNN looks like a joke compared to MSNBC.
I hope that is the general sentiment.
As for me, I wish politicians were fighting over who hates anti-black bigots more often. That's a good problem to have.
That was truly a non-sequitor. I had to switch the channel seeing her toothy grin and "yassah boss" demeanor.
I purposefully wrote United Health Insurance. It is as much about forcing payment for medical services as it is making sure folks can be taken care of when they are sick. If it were Universal Health Care everyone would have it regardless of their financial status. Listen to Hillary's criticism of Obama's plan. She constantly says that if folks aren't forced to buy insurance, the rest of "us" who have purchased it will end up paying their medical bills through a secret tax.
I would really like to know more about the types of coverages that will be provided at what costs!
I like Obama's church and believe in their message.I love how his pastor said that, Bill Clinton did to black people what he did to monica Lewinsky"..its so right. An old professor of mine actually attended it when she was at the University at Chicago for her masters. She would always speak fondly of it. However i know how the media loves to spin and fear monger esp when they have Farrakhan in the pciture and I hope that they dont entertain creating a non-issue. Of course, this is an old issue that is being brought up. The Rezko thing was an old and debunked issue that was brought up by Hillary's desperate behind but people entertained it for too long regardless.
I'm watching the debate again, Hillary looked kind of defeated at points. I'm studying her body language. She usually has this smirk on her face but she looks like shes about to cry.
Who won the debate?
Barack Obama won. 65%
Hillary Clinton won. 22%
'Nuff said.
WOW!
This is a great rebuttal. I think that point should be made each and every time someone wants to slam Barack Obama with Louis Farrakhan.
And don't let us start digging up the video and newspaper articles of endorsements from damning Republicans like Strom Thurmond, Trent Lott and the rest.
And Stephanie Tubbs Jones - Lawd, Lawd, Lawd... I can't WAIT to see who will be challenging her for her seat in Ohio.
The writing is on the wall...
She's absolutely pathetic, and disgusts me. It's these personal insults that just cross the line. Take her HHH self and go somewhere and sit down.
"In 2007, Trumpet Magazine (published and edited by Wright's daughter) presented the Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. Trumpeter Award to Farrakhan, whom it said "truly epitomized greatness."[12] Wright is quoted in the magazine offering praise of Farrakhan "as one of the 20th and. 21st century giants of the African American religious experience" and also praised Farrakhan's "integrity and honesty."In response, Obama noted his disagreement with the decision to give the award to Farrakhan; his statement was praised by Abraham Foxman of the Anti-Defamation League."
Second, the only challenge that comes from Tuesday's debate is the Trinity UCC question. Personally, though, I don't think the GOP wants to implement a tactic of politically attacking churches. Nor do they want to open up the can of worms of segregated or homogenous churches. The so-called "party of faith" hasn't a leg to stand on in this regard. But if the question does come up, i.e., "Senator Obama, if you're truly about unity, why do you attend an 'unashamedly Black' church?". I would hope Barack's response is something like "I attended my church long before political pundits knew or cared about my church. Are you suggesting that I leave my church home only because it's politically expedient to do so?" or something to that affect.
That should put the whole church thing to rest.
She sounded so petty when she bought up the SNL bit.
In listening to the morning shows it seems most think the debate was a draw, that Obama did what he needed to and Clinton didn't do anything to change the dynamic.
Last week on the Field Negro a commentator stated they were a Washington insider and knew firsthand how many of the female CBC members had "cougar'd" up on Obama when he first hit the Washington scene only to be turned down flat. I thought it just idle gossip but now, I wonder if there isn't something to it.
Maybe I am just imagining things, but Tubbs acts as if it's less about defending Clinton as it is about throwing some venom down on Obama. Did he do something, real or imagined, to offend her personally?
The HILLARY "STEP DOWN WITH GRACE" CAMPAIGN
Contact the DNC to let Howard Dean know that we feel that Hillary should step down in a respectful manner since she is obvously not going to win the nomination. This would be the right gesture for her political future as well as the right gesture for the Democratic Party. Just visit: 'STEP DOWN WITH GRACE' Campaign at http://www.Blacks4Barack.org....then respectfully request the DNC to ask her to step-down. Then it will be time to concentrate on the Re-Birth Of America....BARACK OBAMA !
Hillary tried to paing Obama as a Jew hater, plain and simple.
She should have been called on this, but nobody said shit about her underhanded slur. As lolo noted on my blog, the group she said she distanced herself from is also headed by a black person. She's trying to get Jewish peole to believe they can't trust the Negroes.
http://ravingblacklunatic.blogspot.com/2008/02/obama-you-jew-hater.html
If Clinton thinks she can actually win this election by playing the victim, more power to her. If she thinks referring to a comedy skit is good presidential campaigning, more power to her. But if she thought she was going to have it easy as a woman riding on her husband's coattails to victory, she ought not to have run in the first place. Perhaps she ought to have divorced Clinton and separated herself from him completely before running and then she might actually have a point. But she never would've been able to consider herself an incumbent candidate if she tried to run on her own because the Clinton Machine belongs to Bill, not Hillary. And that's why she refuses to release their tax returns. She's got a lot to hide. Always has; always will.
At least one of the Democratic candidates came prepared to deal with all the attacks coming his way. He'll be far better prepared to be President. Obama won the debate hands down.
""Perhaps she ought to have divorced Clinton and separated herself from him completely before running and then she might actually have a point. But she never would've been able to consider herself an incumbent candidate if she tried to run on her own because the Clinton Machine belongs to Bill, not Hillary.""
That's exactly it. She's always turned a blind eye to his philandering in exchange for what he could do for her politically. Now it's dawning on her that it was all for nothing...she sold herself out for nothing. Now, her image(illusion) has been damaged and Bill's image is toast; and, she still won't win the nomination! What did Dick Morris say..."The politics of personal destruction"?
I care more about real issues facing average Americans. The elite Beltway Press--people like Russert and Williams make $4 million a year--don't understand real issues because they don't have to face them. Consequently, real issues--like health care and NAFTA--are declared boring, and the media obsesses on the petty--from Hillary's tear to "plagiarism" to photo of Obama in a foreign country to the words of the bigot Farrakhan. It doesn't help me get health insurance, it doesn't help a kid go to college, it doesn't help the family that is a paycheck away from losing their house, it doesn't help the person who saw their job at the steel mill be sent to Juarez and the list goes on. The fact that Obama doesn't play these petty games and actually addresses the real issues facing Americans is precisely why he's winning, and precisely why he'll be the next President of the United States--much to the media's frustration...they're going to lose their tax cuts.