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I thought he rocked this and apparently the audience did as well as the clapped vigorously after each question he answered.
The pundits observed and I agreed that he was much more comfortable and fluent in speaking about his faith than was Hillary.
Hillary's responses seemed to be cautiously tailored to fit her political positions.
Barack gave great answers on abortion, care of the earth and how that related to faith and, again, he reiterated that he is guided by the sincere belief that he is his brothers keeper.
He said that it was important when bringing faith to the public square that we be careful not to demand that our beliefs were superior to any other (my words).
http://mediaandmayhem.com/2008/04/13/the-piety-test/
Steve Gorelick
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIxmi3e2Vmo
Of course, the CNN puppets, King and Brown wouldn't let Bitter-gate go. I guess they didn't want to address that Obama was well received by the audience, including the evangelicals.
Thank goodness Roland was on tonight to bring balance to the roundtable.
--Sepia
Don't know what we'd do without Roland sounding more than halfway sane.
You beat me to it.
PLEASE do a post on the "Annie Oakley" response from Obama earlier today. I think truthseeker and rikyrah were talking about it on one of the other threads.
In a world of soundbites, that's gonna stick.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/13/watch-obama-on-annie-oakl_n_96459.html
Very funny stuff!
Hey, "Annie Get Your Gun." lol :)
I can see the SNL spoof now. . .Hillary swiggin' back shots of liquor with some NRA card-carrying good ole' boys; duck huntin' to the tune, "Anything You Can Do I Can Do Better!" LOL.
Good job Obama. That's how you start to fight back!
BTW, who at CNN is worth a damn anyway outside of Larry King and Soledad O'Brian?
Bottom line...CNN would have done much better if Soledad O'Brien had moderated the discussion.
McCain is just not comfortable talking about faith. He can't even seriously fake it like Shrub did. It would have been painful to watch, and I think he would have come off as more insincere as Hillpatine, because of being so uncomfortable, though I would trust his religious faith over Hillpatine's.
I think Obama was responding when he said Gore really won.
@ Rikyrah
someone in the comments section of that link asked why Hillary would insult Al Gore by suggesting he was defeated for being elitist. That is a really good point!
Gore must be really ready to close ranks against her. Why else would she go there?
I remember her responding to a question about how she could create new jobs when so many were lost in New York after she promised new jobs and she stated that she thought the Dems were going to win the Whitehouse.
McCain's not going to bring is religious beliefs into this race, nor should he. There's an article in the Washington Times about this:
McCain Keeps His Faith Out of Politics
As an outright obama supporter, i think i can say with ease, that the forum last night was only good for one thing..Clarity on the "bitter" issue.
Dont get me wrong, when they went into abortion, with a room full of evangelicals, i anticipated both HRC and BO to stumble a bit, but after that, it was very dry. I kept scanning, and looking, for any muslim representation and couldnt find any.
The complete discrimination Muslim Americans go through on a daily, at Airports, Shopping Malls etc. I felt shouldve been adressed.
However, Obama was quick to point out, and rightfully so that all she's doing is using republican talking points...he's finally pulled the mask off and shined a light on her bullshit.
Wake up folks!!!
The Clintons left the party a long time ago. They are not democrats and in my view never were. The party was nothing more than a vehicle for success. Niether Bill or Hillary belive in the principles of the party, and never did...but many in the party have been decieved.
Make no mistake, the Clintons intend on destroying the democratic party before they go.
There was a Muslim American there who asked a question of Obama.
Also, as I said in an earlier comment, while answering a question about his earlier muslim eduation, Senator Obama reminded the audience that Muslims were just like them in that they were real people trying to raise their families.
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I don't think it was all for not - it actually reinforced my support of Senator Obama.
You know, I was on the fence about Harold Ford. Never really got SB's criticism of him as "the whore", but after watching him several segments now of Morning Joe, I now see who he is.
He calls himself a friend of Obama and Obama invested a lot of time in TN for him when he was running for the Senate, but he couldn't repay the favor by informing viewers that Senator Obama was a man of faith that has spent a great deal of his professional and person life in the church.
Instead, he was all too willing to allow Joe Scarborough and that annoying ass side kick of his cut down Obama.
Let me borrow your tin foil hat because I have my suspicions that he's trying to help Clinton b/c he thinks she's going to need an Obama like negro substitute for VP.
I think you're on to something!
You know, I was on the fence about Harold Ford. Never really got SB's criticism of him as "the whore", but after watching him several segments now of Morning Joe, I now see who he is.
nmp,
you know that SB would appreciate it if you went over to him and told him that you have now seen ' the light' over the Dark Sith.
He would crack up about it. Come on back over to Skeptical Brotha.
Let me borrow your tin foil hat because I have my suspicions that he's trying to help Clinton b/c he thinks she's going to need an Obama like negro substitute for VP.
He's as delusional as the rest of the HHH. They just think Black folk are gonna shuffle along, and that's so not going to happen. And, him standing with Snowflake, and we could have Michelle Obama, NMP, come on now....come on now...
For those who support Obama and Clinton, I'm sure it did reinforce their level of support.
If I was an undecided voter, though, I don't think that would've swung me one way or the other.
Clinton of course was questioned about the recent "bitter" controversy and she made sure that the words "elitism" and "out of touch" were emphasized, but left it to Sen. Obama to expound on the subject. Sen. Obama stood his ground, while noting that "religion is a bulwark, a foundation for people when things aren't going well", he stated that " unfortunately what people have become bitter about is any confidence that the government is listening to them. He further noted that "nobody has done more to reach out to the church".
Obama had to answer yet another Rev. Wright question. He once again defended his former pastor, highlighting his numerous life achievements while reaffirming his commitment to his church; his answer received a long applause.
What I noticed tonight was the slow emergence of Obama the community organizer who is a devout Christian and less of the former constitutional law professor. He will need to better frame that message to connect with working class voters or the so called Reagan Democrats. Obama needs to highlight his own personal story of being raised by a white mother who took food stamps and died early of cancer and frame that versus the elitism charges. He is learning and this long primary battle is certainly helping him better shape that message.
Obama although he has not led a charmed personal life, has had a relatively easy rise to political prominence, until now.
If by some miracle it does happen, I hope folk remember and Obama leaves the DNC and forms his own independent party.
BUT I digress and Obama will win the nomination.
HRC may run for GOV of NY to salvage her rep and political career.
I remember her responding to a question about how she could create new jobs when so many were lost in New York after she promised new jobs and she stated that she thought the Dems were going to win the Whitehouse.
THANK YOU. I remember that too. It bothered me at the time for various reasons -- attempted reality-creation (it was only a "promise" to be kept if the reality she wanted came to pass), weasling out of a real criticiism & not admitting she had made an actual mistake ... And now this. %$^(%*%%$^&
Also, this may be slightly off-topic, but on the Annie Oakley thing -- a call from me out into the web-o-verse -- someone please please do the satire that is just dying to be born, about Hillary and guns and shooting and snipers and ducks. I don't know exactly what it is, can't quite see it, myself. But I feel its presence just waiting to be brought to life by someone more perceptive of it than me. Please!