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This is a great post! I think a lot of us need to read this and see the truth the media surely doesn't want to see the light of day. It's nice to see that people aren't as stupid as the MSM like to believe they are.
It's the eastern Mountains, Stupid.
That's where Obama's "problem" is most pronounced. That's why in Ohio, Kentucky, West Virginia, Pennsylvania, and Tennessee, Obama didn't have/won't have a chance to win a plurality of votes among poor white people. Notice how much better he did/is expected to do in Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi and states west of Indiana inclusive and north/east of New York among that same demographic.
Appalachia has been forgotten for so long that many communities in may as well still be living in Reconstruction.
It was, after all, a Kentucky congressman that said a few weeks ago, "That boy could never be commander in chief." No media coverage.
Recently, another Kentucky superdelegate who endorsed Obama has already received more than 300 calls pressuring him to back off, some calling him a "n****r lover" and worse. No media coverage. (But progressive activists responded by raising $20,000 for his campaign in just over a day.)
Obama is expected to lose Kentucky by 35+ points. Few delegates on the line. If I'm him, I don't even campaign there outside of Louisville and Lexington. Especially not in the racially charged atmosphere being promoted around the Rev. Wright conflama.
No one has the guts to come out and say it: Poor white folks in Appalachia are hardcore bigots and their politicians, even the progressive ones, by and large echo the sentiments of that bigotry in order to get their votes.
Peggy Noonan, a white, conservative baby boomer female, gets it.
But beyond that, her writing in this piece is nothing shorty of devastating.
In one fell swoop, she makes an argument for Obama's connection to Rev. Wright and his bitter comments and she never bats an eyelash.
Loyal to Bitterness
Thanks. The media is really getting on my nerves with their spin. I cannot watch anymore. I havent watched any media coverage since Monday morning.
They are trying to make Clinton look more electable than Obama when its not TRUE.
That is the explicit Nixon strategy right now. They kill two birds with one stone. If they can make Black people have second thoughts and if they can stir up the rage of the bigots and get them to turn out it large numbers in the remaining primaries to vote against Obama, they can make the argument that Mrs. Nixon is more electable.
It's cynical, nasty, amoral and downright soul-less.
The closing:
"I would not be here were it not for the fact that somebody, somewhere stood up for me. Because one person stood up, a few more stood up. Then a thousand stood up, and then a million stood up. That's why Hillary Clinton can run for President. That's why I can run for President.
Because somebody stood up.
And the question now is: Will the Democratic Party stand up for the next generation? That's my Patriotism. Those are my values. That's what we're fighting for in this election."
Excellent post!
The steep decline in Hillary's favorability rating among Black voters is notable. I am one of many who would have willingly pulled the lever for her six months ago but have no intention of doing so now.
The MSM is worse than useless. Screw them, and sign me up for Operation Anti-Chaos.
Peace
yliza
[If anybody gets a chance, please bump the Facebook thread from time to time -- things move pretty quickly there and it's best to keep it on the front page.]
Billary - Time for me to break my silence
Hey! Anyone want to work on putting up a satire site about this with me? We could do it on wordpress.com for free -- you can set those up as static sites, not just blogs. Very easy to do.
I don't have any ideas right this moment on content but I love doing satire and think it could be fun and possibly useful, if one or more other people would be interested in colluding -- I mean collaborating -- I mean you know.
Email me at storiesproject at mindspring dot com if you want to work on this.
I don't have any ideas right this moment on content but I love doing satire and think it could be fun and possibly useful, if one or more other people would be interested in colluding -- I mean collaborating -- I mean you know.
Email me at storiesproject at mindspring dot com if you want to work on this.
And rikyrah, this is a fantastic post, my first useful news of the day online. Thanks.
What a good little negro he is, warning massa of the potential uprising. No doubt, when the Clinton's found themselves in shit, they recalled his advice and offered Obama the vice Presidency even though she was losing.
But when I read that email, all I could think that this was the blog of a politician absolutely scared he's going to be voted out of office the next go around.
Just saying.
Speech to Working Class, Indiana
Excerpts:
"This economy doesn’t just jeopardize our financial well-being, it offends the most basic values that have made this country what it is: the idea that America is the place where you can make it if you try. That no matter how much money you start with or where you come from or who your parents are, opportunity is yours if you’re willing to reach for it and work for it. It’s the idea that while there are no guarantees in life, you should able to count on a job that pays the bills; health care for when you get sick; a pension for when you retire; an education for your children that will allow them to fulfill their God-given potential. That’s who we are as a country. That’s the America most of us here know. It’s the America our parents and our grandparents grew up knowing."
::
"That job didn’t just give him a paycheck, it gave him dignity and self-worth. It was an America that didn’t just reward and honor wealth, but the work and the workers who helped create it.
"And we are here today looking for the answer to the same question:
"Where is that America today? "
::
"But I also saw that we are not powerless in the face of these challenges. We don’t have to sit here and watch our leaders do nothing. I learned that we don’t have to consign our children to a future of diminished dreams – a future of fewer opportunities. And that’s why I’m running for President today. Politics didn’t lead me to working people – working people led me to politics."
::
"We can’t afford to settle for a Washington where politicians only focus on how to win instead of why we should; where they check the polls before they check their gut; where they only tell us whatever we want to hear whenever we want to hear it. That kind of politics may get them where they need to go, but it doesn’t get America where we need to go. And it won’t change anything.
"Some of you might have seen that Senator Clinton’s spending a lot of money on a television ad that attacks me for not supporting her and John McCain’s idea of a gas tax holiday for the summer. Now, this is an idea that will save you – altogether – half a tank of gas. That’s thirty cents a day. For three months. That’s if the oil companies don’t simply jack up their price to fill the gap, as they’ve done when this was tried before. Does anyone here really trust the oil companies to give you the savings when they could just pocket the money themselves?
"It’s a shell game. Literally."
::
"But I still believe we need to fundamentally change Washington if we want change in America. I still believe this election is bigger than me, or Senator Clinton, or Senator McCain. It’s bigger than Democrats versus Republicans.
"It’s about who we are as Americans. It’s about whether this country, at this moment, will continue to stand by while the wealthy few prosper at the expense of the hardworking many, or whether we’ll stand up and reclaim the American dream for every American. It’s about whether we’ll watch the Chinas and the Indias of the world move past us, or whether we’ll decide that in the 21st century, the home of innovation, and discovery, and progress will still be the United States of America.
"Reclaiming this dream will take more than one election. It will take more than one person or one party. It will take the effort and sacrifice of a nation united. And that’s the truth."
::
"And if you do – if you decide that this moment is about what kind of country we’ll be in the next year and the next century; about how we’ll provide jobs to the jobless and opportunity to those without it; about health care and good schools and a green planet; about giving our children a better world and a brighter future – then I ask you to enlist your neighbors, and knock on doors, and work your heart out from now until Tuesday. In the face of all cynicism, and doubt, and fear, I ask you to remember what makes a nation – and to believe that we can once again make this nation the land of limitless possibility and unyielding hope – the place where you can still make it if you try. Thank you, and may God Bless the United States of America."
He's a Black lawyer, living in Brazil, who, at the beginning of the campaign, was one of Hillary Clinton's biggest supporters. One of the most interesting things about this campaign is to see Francis' devolution AWAY from Camp Hillary.
He's also a bit of a flame thrower and takes on the 'Mainstream' Progressive blogs, usually to the point of where they ban him..LOL
Francis is a bit intense, but always is a good read.
“Shawn ‘Jay-Z’ Carter has established an educational trust for the for the children of Sean Bell, the unarmed African-American man who was shot and killed by police on the day he was to be married. Nicole Bell appeared prominently in Jay-Z’s Rocawear “I Will Not Lose” advertising campaign with images that caused indignation within the NYPD’s Benevolent Association.”
Jay-Z does a lot of good things in the community. He has established a foundation to help children and a school for children with muscial talents.
Sigh.
you know that all of Obama's votes in Oregon come from ' Da Hood'.
When Clinton was seen as inevitable, and when black voters started to peel off, it was, "Clinton is losing the black vote! Why?! How?!"
Also, there are simply more white voters than black in this country, which I guess could be part of the equation.
the graph on this post has been updated at Kos. The date was changed to 2008.
here's the link:
http://ruralvotes.com/thefield/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/blowcorrected.gif
... election day giveaway
This lifted my heart.
Larry gets irritated with Sheila Jackson twice because he's asking her if Hillary was right to not discuss Wright. Sheila responds by going into her talking points and shows no empathy for Obama, a fellow African American and Democrat who has just had a difficult break with his pastor. I don't know how this blind, obsessive support for Hillary could trump empathy, fairness.
Now Sharpton's on, and I have to say, I have been proud of Sharpton's conduct during this campaign. I've always thought he's given a bum rap because of his flamboyant style. Al knows the art of the one-liner. I know Sharpton privately has old-school issues with Barack, but he NEVER fails to speak kindly of him in interviews.
Al draws a comparison between Barack not getting Trinity's latest DVD to Hillary not reading intelligence reports before voting for war. Al thinks the latter is more grievous. This shut Lanny up..almost. Then Flavia finds a way to mention the sniper fire, and Al stifles a smile. Lanny seemed less aggressive somehow.
The feeling I get from watching the surrogates lately is that it's over for Hillary. Maybe they're drawing straws to see who will break the news to her.
Then Joy Behar is on and says she likes Obama, finds him a "sweet guy" and comfortable in his skin. She has talked about how as a Catholic, her family doesn't walk out of church because of the Pedophilia by priests. Joy doesn't like McCain, feels he's not at ease with himself, among other things.
Speaking of the shift I sense in the surrogates lately...it started about Thursday before last(April24) Then I was online and ran across a story I'd seen around that time. It was about the Obama campaign making a deal with the DNC to do joint fundraising. I understand this is standard for the presumptive nominee. The article said that Hillary was also in talks but no deal had been made. It's now May, and no story emerges about a Hillary deal. I think all these signs add up to something. It turns out that the Obama campaign confirmed the story around April 25 which coincided with that shift I sensed in the surrogate behaviour.
Then, there are rumblings about superdelegates having decided for Obama but not making it public yet. Hillary has so poisoned her supporters against Obama, maybe they need to play this carefully.
Dare I hope?
President Obama.
There, I said it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCalrqWGuwU
Once the Dems get their act together, and deal with Bride of Chucky...they'll be tag teaming the Republican's ass. Repubs are not real good at gauging mood. They are desperate if they think talking about guns is enough.
Earl Ofari Hutchinson has an op-ed over at HuffPo ....
"Superdelegates Must Tell Color of Change What it Can Do With its Silly Vote for Obama Petition"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/earl-ofari-hutchinson/superdelegates-must-tell_b_99951.html
Just call that HHH OUT for being an Uncle Ruckus.
He is a straight up Uncle Ruckus of the highest order.
Rev. Al has cracked me up, as of late. He really has. The way he broke it down about Florida and Michigan during the State of the Black Union is one of my favorite moments from this year.
Lanny is slime..plain and simple.
craig hickman,
that link doesn't work.
PS- I watched the last 5 minutes of Obama at that JJ dinner in NC over and over again. He was so good.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/04/opinion/04rich.html?_r=1&partner;=rssnyt&emc;=rss&oref;=slogin
Barack's speech to working families in America.
Sixth District
99% of Precincts Reporting
Don Cazayoux (D): 49% (49312)
Woody Jenkins (R):46% (46282)
This seat has been in GOP hands for 30 years.
It's one of those seats where they used Wright/Obama ads against the Democrat.
Oregon is N of California & S of Washington state on the pacific coast. I often think about moving there when my children are grown because the state is very ecologically progressive.
@Truthseeker
Francis Holland is hardly the only African American to support Hillbilly, especially @ first. When the competition began, I was 60-40 in favor of her over Obama until she started race baiting & such. Thats one reason why it's hard to hear the MSM make statements suggesting that Blacks only vote for Obama because of race. There are a whole lot of Blacks I wouldn't vote for. So I'm saying all this to say that I'm not mad @ him for his initial interest, but after the truth about them has come out, how can any Black person CONTINUE to support them? After they have insulted and made dismissive statements, and implied that our ENTIRE RACE OWES them something....I would not vote for either of them for anything. They have lost my vote for life. I have to think that Black politicians like Nutter & Shiela Jackson Lee are doing so only for personal political gain. I feel that Obama is the only candidate capable of being president of ALL citizens.He is the only one who doesn't have hostilities against Black people.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/marie-wilson/an-army-of-women_b_99836.html
The Kentucky Derby was held today, and won by Big Brown.
Hillary Clinton had backed the filly in the race, Eight Belles. She came in second place. Tragically, Eight Belles collapsed after crossing the finish line and was euthanized on the track.
Drop out now, Hillary! We don't want to see you collapse and die after crossing the finish line in second place.
Concede now, Senator Clinton. We women care for you and you health.
"What Will a Clinton "Victory" Feel Like"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-eskow/what-will-a-clinton-victo_b_99880.html
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid;=190658759
I know, I know...but the defence of Obama presents some good points:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=-RNRGV3MWfg
I hear you.
My hostility is because of the email he sent advising the Clinton's on how to proceed. I think he must have sensed something unpleasant about the Clinton's to feel it necessary to provide that advice. Why would he seek to help them navigate those racial waters safely? What personal connection does he have that would compel him to offer that kind of help without it being requested? Surely that was not just his "good deed for the day".
Something about it doesn't sit well with me. He offered advise to help defeat the black candidate.
I am tired of lawyers and preachers and talk show hosts and their benevolent stupidity. How dense to not see the implications of their actions. Today, it is more likely for a black child to be called "nigger" than it was five months ago. And these "leaders" of men had their part to play in that obscenity.
I would like them to shut up, and not be so damned helpful.
mikefrontexas
Also...
OREGON FOR OBAMA!!
Is this to tell us that it was a "strategy" in hopes we would be okay with strategy and not take it personal? I do take it personal.
What took him so long?
The All-White Elephant in the Room
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Well, duh.
And that's the whole point of "Operation Chaos."
I think many JJP readers do not understand the point of "Operation Chaos."
It is not an effort to make Hillary the nominee, but rather to damage both candidates so badly and divide the party so deeply that a large part of each candidate's core constituency will swing to McCain or stay home.
And it is working.
By prolonging the nomination process we have seen Obama damage himself with Rev. Wright, 'Bittergate' and his poor debate performance.
Now that 'the bloom is off the rose,' Obama is still open to scrutiny over his association with Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn. Obama has been evasive and dismissive of this association and his opposition will be all over this now that the Rev. situation is fading...
His inexperience, extreme associations and judgment will continue to be called into question during the general election campaign.
Most Republicans now feel that Obama is the easier candidate to beat in the fall.
Obama is 'Teflon' coated in the nomination battle but not for the general election. Obama will be the nominee but he will still have an 'electability problem' among white, blue collar and rural voters.
This is not a myth.
'Operation Choas' recognizes that many black voters will stay home, but many will 'hold their noses' and vote Democratic, because they are a loyal constituency, poisoned successfully for years against the Republicans by the likes of the NAACP, CBC and the Dem leadership.
Now, the bigger question:
How will the losing side in the primary react to defeat? Someone is going to lose, and the bloc of voters seen by the superdelegates as the most 'important' to winning in the fall will be appeased.
Black voters and the new young Dems brought into the party by Obama will assure him the nomination.
Where will this leave 'Reagan Democrats?' To many, McCain will be seen as an acceptable alternative to Obama. Republicans will attempt to define Obama as inexperienced, extreme, and lacking the 'wisdom' voters want in their President.
There are the points upon which Obama will be attacked, and to which he must respond in the general election.
'Operation Chaos' is designed to keeping the nomination process going, keep divisions within the party from healing and
limiting the amount of time Obama will have to run against McCain.
Obama and his supporters should begin to look beyond Hillary, to marginalize her, and assume an air of 'inevitability' towards the nomination. Obama should court Clinton's base of support: women, seniors and working class whites, and bring them to his side.
IN and NC will be a test of his ability to do that. 'Operation Chaos' will try to stop him by offsetting any gains he makes with her base by bringing in new Dem voters to Hillary.
The prolonged primary battle can only help the Republicans and give them hope for victory in November.
Just saying.
Obama can have Ron Paul supporters, another extreme fringe faction to add to his list...McCain will take 'Reagan Democrats' and all the mainstream Americans who think Paul is as big a crackpot as Wright!
Good luck with that!
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/226/story/35666.html
Key graphs:
"They(Indiana Dems)tend to be working-class. They dot smaller communities like this one, a few miles outside Indianapolis. A generation ago, they were called "Reagan Democrats"; upset with Democrats' increasing liberalism, they bolted their party to vote for Ronald Reagan, who spoke to them in a way that Ted Kennedy and Walter Mondale never could.
In 2008, many of these voters are leery of Obama, and they see presumptive Republican nominee McCain as having the toughness and experience that a president needs. Race undoubtedly plays a role, though it's difficult to say how much. It also could be partly a reaction to Obama's perceived liberal elitism."
Dennis Whetsell, a Brownsburg accountant, voiced other concerns: "Obama doesn't have experience. McCain could work much better with Congress. "I'd like to get the troops home as quickly as we can," said Whetsell, "but we also can't allow the area to fall into the hands of Iran or Syria." McCain, he said, understands all the nuances."
"Obama's just very culturally different," Black said. "He's obviously not part of the white working class. And his whole life experience is in very different environments."
It isn't just Indiana. Wherever there are white working-class people, there's suspicion of Obama."
Do you even know any 'Reagan Democrats'?
Keep trying. This has been show to be a deliberate misrepresentation of McCain's words. It's not sticking.
Not to mention, it makes Obama look like just 'another politician' who will use dishonest tactics to smear his opponent.
Try again.
Let's keep it real and not muddy the water with mythology, why don't we?
I heard McWhacko say it myself...100 year war.
Rangel did not answer a question about HRC could win with a coalition that did not include AA's
Roland of course came right on out with it stating that a Democrat cannot win without the AA vote.
He spoke favorably of the Wright situation and how the media has handled it, but I bet that's about covering up HRC's religious affiliations.
I always say I can show you better than I can tell you.
Amazingly (not), they are no doing a segment on the Gas Tax Holiday and instead of informing Americans that it is going nowhere and if it did the detriment it would cause, they're talking about how it is working for Hillary.
I refused to even tivo it.
How about Clyburn and Wilder on Face The Nation?
I tivo'd Obama on MTP.
Are Wilder and Clyburn still on?
I think Clyburn and WIlder made good points.
My take on the Appalachian voter (having met my share of these folks in the past): they don't "know" Obama. They stick with familiarity. They aren't going to pay as much attention, or be as informed as the average voter. And most people (probably) vote at the last moment for a candidate based on impressions.
I wouldn't expect them to vote for him. They know and identify with the "old" Billary. I actually believe Obama could reach them via religion (Christian push), but I doubt he has enough time to do it.
Frankly, any votes from them over 25%-30% for Obama would be interesting.
Maybe it's just an overactive imagination, but I can't figure out what she's holding out for.
I just posted the HuffPo story in the above section. This is just scary. It tells us more and more that this is something personal for her and not the party.
oh noo..I think you beat me to it. Anyway, I wonder who will have a backbone to tell her to sit down somewhere. If that doesn't happen, then you know that the party is going down the tubes.
McCain just isn't red enough for a lot of red states.
People think I'm crazy up north, but my southern friends agree that Louisiana, Mississippi, and Georgia will be in play if Obama is the nominee.
That sounds unthinkable, and no one is saying Obama will win any of them, but look what just happened in Louisiana.
IF A PASTOR IS KNOWN BY THE COMPANY THEY KEEP! When the Rev. William Procanick put his hand on the Bible during his sexual-abuse trial in Oneida County Court earlier this year, he swore to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth. But as the former Clinton pastor was sentenced Friday to three years in prison for inappropriately touching a 7-year-old girl at his home last March, Judge Michael L. Dwyer said , Procanick sacrificed his honesty the day he testified. Okay, so now that Bill and Hillary Clinton''s pastor has been convicted of child molestation, will we see the same furor directed at Hillary that Obama has had to endure these last few weeks? IF A CANDIDATE IS KNOWN BY THE PASTOR THEY KEEP ...... Then you need to email this article to everyone you know. Here the CLINTON''S Pastor is convicted of child molestation. So, if Obama bears the guilt for his pastor''s comments, then Hillary has to be equally tainted by this guy''s crimes.
CBS news....
she'll destroy the party rather than give up. but, then, we've always known that, didn't we?
yep!
Indianapolis: Pre-JJ Dinner Rally for Obama
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1O4z92ZwqAs&eurl;
Rikyrah, as for financing, I think she would get some public support and that she would self-finance the rest, like she is doing now, or by illegal means like they have always done. Who is going to ask about it or call for an investigation? With the media on her side I'm sure it won't be too hard.
She is up to something. She has already shown she cares nothing about the Dems.
I think if they don't give it to her she's going postal.
Speaking of Ron Paul ... did the media make inferences about white surpremacy associations in the wake of his white supremacist donors, the way they infer that Barack's a potential Black militance based upon his associations?