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Marie — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 12:05:00 -0000

If you live in or anywhere near Texas, Ohio, Rhode Island, or Vermont, get down to the Obama campaign office and get to work.
If you don't want to make calls or go canvassing, there is a lot of office work that needs to get done (tallying the calls, getting maps together, getting mailers together). I spent several hours at the Obama office yesterday (instead of reading annoying pro-Clinton comments on my otherwise favorite blogs (Shakesville!)) and it was so great to be focusing on something productive instead of just scouring the news for some sign of what's to come!

Just to be clear, blogging is absolutely important, and I love this blog.

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Craig Hickman — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 10:30:00 -0000

Who is Tavis Smiley?

(That's a joke.)

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CAB — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 04:06:00 -0000

McCain needs to be dealt with sooner rather than later. I think we should be able to turn the other cheek and let Hillary gracefully exit stage right once this is over, and focus our sights on McCain, who's not really fit to be President. Seriously.

Hardball is one of the key shows for MSNBC, and Chris Matthews gets suckered in by any and all pols and their soaring rhetoric, from Obama to Clinton to GWB. He loves politicians and has a creepy fascination with politics in general.

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rikyrah — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 01:21:00 -0000

Did any of you catch our friend Tavis Smiley trying to make Barack Obama look bad on CNN for not going to the SOTBU. They are digging up every black Clinton supporter to "confirm" that Obama doesnt care about the black community.

Tavis is still clowning, and will continue to be marginalized. Black folk told him - STFU and be on your way and leave Obama alone to do his thing.

Why am I not surprised that this turned up on CNN?

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Craig Hickman — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 01:09:00 -0000

I don't know the ratings of Hard Ball, but I'm going to guess that throngs of voters never tune into that show.

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Angela — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 20:31:00 -0000

Wow, after my last post I listened to Chris Matthews gush about Hillary's last comment. He even said he didn't care if it was planned it got to him....

He is supposed to be savvy about politics and the political gaming acts...! If he can get taken in, forget about the every day joe and jane trying to be objective.

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Craig Hickman — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 20:30:00 -0000

Say it again, Angela. Say it again.

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Angela — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 20:06:00 -0000

get it....last night Hillary pulled off one of her better acts....yes, it was desperate. but, people fall for that emotional tug on your heart strings stuff all the time!

Most people are living their daily routine and they don't remember she is copying John Edwards and her husbands old bits......most probably don't even get the connection.

Keep in mind that probably most of us on this venue follow the news in a way that most Americans do not. The majority hear a sound bite that sounds good and with their limited time of working, raising families,and just keeping their head above water....the last thing they hear which sounds good to them, sticks.

That is the reality for too many people in this country.

They might see the sound bite on tv or hear it on the radio.....

Don't discount what Hillary did last night.

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Anonymous — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 19:35:00 -0000

See
http://candidblogger.blogsp...

for more complete analysis of hillary's use of hubby and edwards comments

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Morlock — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:48:00 -0000

I'm still so angry about the way that MILLIONS of Obama voters were disenfranchised in California and New York, I couldn't even bother to watch the debate last night. The sight of Hillary's face makes me want to punch the TV.

How f***ing ridiculous is it that millions of Independents in California are disqualified due to a ballot that was deliberately designed to reject their votes?

And even worse, in New York-- Obama with zero votes? IN HARLEM?

Kudos to the NYT for at least raising the NY disenfranchisement scandal, but otherwise the media have been reprehensibly silent about this. As my old professor has said,

The Hillary Clinton campaign has thus perpetrated the most sweeping, severe and damaging act of voter disenfranchisement and fraud in the history of American politics.

And yet it's all but ignored. IN A SUPPOSED "DEMOCRACY."

It's pissing off so many people, I'm honestly getting nervous for the country's viability over the next few months.

A slew of old college classmates talking about revolution, about Jefferson's exhortation to "water the tree of liberty with the blood of tyrants" and so forth.

One of my grad-student friends, bookish and sweet, talking about "having the Molotov cocktails ready if Obama is cheated out of this and we are disenfranchised."

Riots and general strikes would be the least of it.

I don't understand how the media just doesn't get this-- the whole point of democracy and elections is to allow people to express their voice in choosing leaders and have that voice counted. If the campaign process is thwarted with such fraud, and if people's votes are tossed aside, you get-- well, the kinds of ugly scenes we get in Kenya and Pakistan.

And if this s**t continues, much as it pains me to say it, that nastiness will be coming to a city near you and me.

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Rhonda M. Smith — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:32:00 -0000

Rachel...I'll pass on McCain for but thanks.

There are also other videos that show Hillary "plagarising", it is so sad.

Did any of you catch our friend Tavis Smiley trying to make Barack Obama look bad on CNN for not going to the SOTBU. They are digging up every black Clinton supporter to "confirm" that Obama doesnt care about the black community.

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Rachel — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:53:00 -0000

Yes, Clinton bugs.

But I think it's time to pivot to McCain, because I guarantee you that he (and the RNC) have already made that transition...we do not need to miss the very real vulnerabilities he is exhibiting because we are so busy kicking a dead horse.

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Anonymous — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:05:00 -0000

Does anyone else get the impression that the Clinton campaign doesn't get the whole internet concept?

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Craig Hickman — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:50:00 -0000

For any of you who thought Hillary was "conceding" last night:

Click here

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ac — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 13:31:00 -0000

I listened to both clips several times very carefully and I didn't hear Hillary credit John Edwards or Bill Clinton for their words. Should I be concerned about this?

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Angela — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 13:05:00 -0000

Remember Maureen Dowd's article "Can Hillary Cry Her Way Back to the White House?"

I think its the Clintons new strategy.