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Re: R. Kelly Found Not Guilty

Nita — Sat, 14 Jun 2008 20:26:00 -0000

reasonable doubt is reasonable doubt.

this 'if it were a white girl' stuff ignores the fact that the state went above and beyond to prosecute a black man in the first place. who's devalued now? would they have done this to a white man, whether or not the girl was black, white, asian, whatever?

if you all really want to make R. Kelly pay for being stupid, don't buy his products, and demand radio stations don't buy his productions -- even if your favorite artist is attached to them.

me, when alleged victims aren't the ones pushing a case, i don't care how old the alleged victim is -- i look to see what the motives are of the prosecuting side. is it really about protecting the innocent, or about something else?

Re: R. Kelly Found Not Guilty

Soullite — Sat, 14 Jun 2008 13:16:00 -0000

Both R.Kelley and the alleged victim claim the tape does not depict them. Thats how this verdict was reached. Good luck getting a conviction if the only real piece of evidence you has is disavowed by both the alleged perpetrator and the alleged victim. If this wasn't R.Kelley, it probably wouldn't have even gone to trial.

Re: R. Kelly Found Not Guilty

heartsandflowers — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 23:17:00 -0000

It took 6 years to even get a trial date! So you knew it was a railroad job from the get go. He may have been found not guilty but that doesn't mean he is INNOCENT. We know from past behavior what his present and future behavior will be. And he's not the only one, but there's a nice place reserved in hell for him and all child molesters and rapists.

Re: R. Kelly Found Not Guilty

Kitty — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 23:13:00 -0000

...and don't forget the 1919 Chicago Black Sox.

Re: R. Kelly Found Not Guilty

Admiral Komack — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 22:35:00 -0000

"I'm counting down the moments it takes for someone to demand that Obama reject and denounce R. Kelly, being that they're both from Chicago."

-...and after that, Al Capone.

Then Mrs. O'Leary's cow for starting the Great Chicago Fire...

Re: R. Kelly Found Not Guilty

Val — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 22:08:00 -0000

"I'm counting down the moments it takes for someone to demand that Obama reject and denounce R. Kelly, being that they're both from Chicago."

lol stop it! lol

Re: R. Kelly Found Not Guilty

Anonymous — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 21:56:00 -0000

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS ABOUT ADULTERY/FORNICATION?
1. Exodus 20:14

Thou shalt not commit adultery.

Exodus 20:13-15 (in Context) Exodus 20 (Whole Chapter)

2. Leviticus 20:10

And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.

Leviticus 20:9-11 (in Context) Leviticus 20 (Whole Chapter)

3. Deuteronomy 5:18

Neither shalt thou commit adultery.

Deuteronomy 5:17-19 (in Context) Deuteronomy 5 (Whole Chapter)

4. Proverbs 6:32

But whoso committeth adultery with a woman lacketh understanding: he that doeth it destroyeth his own soul.

Proverbs 6:31-33 (in Context) Proverbs 6 (Whole Chapter)

5. Jeremiah 3:8

And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also.

Jeremiah 3:7-9 (in Context) Jeremiah 3 (Whole Chapter)

6. Jeremiah 3:9

And it came to pass through the lightness of her whoredom, that she defiled the land, and committed adultery with stones and with stocks.

Jeremiah 3:8-10 (in Context) Jeremiah 3 (Whole Chapter)

7. Jeremiah 5:7

How shall I pardon thee for this? thy children have forsaken me, and sworn by them that are no gods: when I had fed them to the full, they then committed adultery, and assembled themselves by troops in the harlots' houses.

Jeremiah 5:6-8 (in Context) Jeremiah 5 (Whole Chapter)

8. Jeremiah 7:9

Will ye steal, murder, and commit adultery, and swear falsely, and burn incense unto Baal, and walk after other gods whom ye know not;

Jeremiah 7:8-10 (in Context) Jeremiah 7 (Whole Chapter)

9. Jeremiah 23:14

I have seen also in the prophets of Jerusalem an horrible thing: they commit adultery, and walk in lies: they strengthen also the hands of evildoers, that none doth return from his wickedness; they are all of them unto me as Sodom, and the inhabitants thereof as Gomorrah.

Jeremiah 23:13-15 (in Context) Jeremiah 23 (Whole Chapter)

10. Jeremiah 29:23

Because they have committed villany in Israel, and have committed adultery with their neighbours' wives, and have spoken lying words in my name, which I have not commanded them; even I know, and am a witness, saith the LORD.

Jeremiah 29:22-24 (in Context) Jeremiah 29 (Whole Chapter)

From King James Version

1. BATH-SHEBA (BATHSHEBA) » Adultery of (2 Samuel 11:2-5)

2. COPULATION » See ADULTERY

3. CRIMINALS » See various crimes, such as ADULTERY, ARSON, HOMICIDE, etc

4. FORNICATION » See ADULTERY

5. HARLOT (PROSTITUTE) » See ADULTERY

6. HARLOTRY » See ADULTERY

7. LASCIVIOUSNESS » See ADULTERY

8. LICENTIOUSNESS » See ADULTERY

9. LUST » See ADULTERY

10. PROSTITUTION » See ADULTERY

DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS ABOUT FORNICATION?

2 Chronicles 21:11

Moreover he made high places in the mountains of Judah and caused the inhabitants of Jerusalem to commit fornication, and compelled Judah thereto.

2 Chronicles 21:10-12 (in Context) 2 Chronicles 21 (Whole Chapter)

Ezekiel 16:15

But thou didst trust in thine own beauty, and playedst the harlot because of thy renown, and pouredst out thy fornications on every one that passed by; his it was.

Ezekiel 16:14-16 (in Context) Ezekiel 16 (Whole Chapter)

Ezekiel 16:26

Thou hast also committed fornication with the Egyptians thy neighbors, great of flesh; and hast increased thy whoredoms, to provoke me to anger.

Ezekiel 16:25-27 (in Context) Ezekiel 16 (Whole Chapter)

Ezekiel 16:29

Thou hast moreover multiplied thy fornication in the land of Canaan unto Chaldea; and yet thou wast not satisfied therewith.

Ezekiel 16:28-30 (in Context) Ezekiel 16 (Whole Chapter)

Isaiah 23:17

And it shall come to pass after the end of seventy years, that the LORD will visit Tyre, and she shall turn to her hire, and shall commit fornication with all the kingdoms of the world upon the face of the earth.

Isaiah 23:16-18 (in Context) Isaiah 23 (Whole Chapter)

John 8:41

Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.

John 8:40-42 (in Context) John 8 (Whole Chapter)

Mark 7:21

For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders,

Mark 7:20-22 (in Context) Mark 7 (Whole Chapter)

Matthew 5:32

But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.

Matthew 5:31-33 (in Context) Matthew 5 (Whole Chapter)

Matthew 15:19

For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies:

Matthew 15:18-20 (in Context) Matthew 15 (Whole Chapter)

Matthew 19:9

And I say unto you, whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her who is put away doth commit adultery.

Matthew 19:8-10 (in Context) Matthew 19 (Whole Chapter)

More results from King James Version

1. FORNICATION

2. SCOURGING » Prescribed in the Mosaic law for committing the sin of fornication (Leviticus 19:20; Deuteronomy 22:18)

3. SENSUALITY » See FORNICATION

4. VOWS » INSTANCES OF » Of Job, not to entertain thoughts of fornication (Job 31:1)

5. WOMEN » INSTANCES OF » Dinah, in her fornication (Genesis 34:1,2)

DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS ABOUT FORNICATION?

2 Chronicles 21:11

Moreover he made high places in the mountains of Judah and caused the inhabitants of Jerusalem to commit fornication, and compelled Judah thereto.

2 Chronicles 21:10-12 (in Context) 2 Chronicles 21 (Whole Chapter)

Ezekiel 16:15

But thou didst trust in thine own beauty, and playedst the harlot because of thy renown, and pouredst out thy fornications on every one that passed by; his it was.

Ezekiel 16:14-16 (in Context) Ezekiel 16 (Whole Chapter)

Ezekiel 16:26

Thou hast also committed fornication with the Egyptians thy neighbors, great of flesh; and hast increased thy whoredoms, to provoke me to anger.

Ezekiel 16:25-27 (in Context) Ezekiel 16 (Whole Chapter)

Ezekiel 16:29

Thou hast moreover multiplied thy fornication in the land of Canaan unto Chaldea; and yet thou wast not satisfied therewith.

Ezekiel 16:28-30 (in Context) Ezekiel 16 (Whole Chapter)

Isaiah 23:17

And it shall come to pass after the end of seventy years, that the LORD will visit Tyre, and she shall turn to her hire, and shall commit fornication with all the kingdoms of the world upon the face of the earth.

Isaiah 23:16-18 (in Context) Isaiah 23 (Whole Chapter)

John 8:41

Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.

John 8:40-42 (in Context) John 8 (Whole Chapter)

Mark 7:21

For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders,

Mark 7:20-22 (in Context) Mark 7 (Whole Chapter)

Matthew 5:32

But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.

Matthew 5:31-33 (in Context) Matthew 5 (Whole Chapter)

Matthew 15:19

For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies:

Matthew 15:18-20 (in Context) Matthew 15 (Whole Chapter)

Matthew 19:9

And I say unto you, whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her who is put away doth commit adultery.

Matthew 19:8-10 (in Context) Matthew 19 (Whole Chapter)

More results from King James Version

1. FORNICATION

2. SCOURGING » Prescribed in the Mosaic law for committing the sin of fornication (Leviticus 19:20; Deuteronomy 22:18)

3. SENSUALITY » See FORNICATION

4. VOWS » INSTANCES OF » Of Job, not to entertain thoughts of fornication (Job 31:1)

5. WOMEN » INSTANCES OF » Dinah, in her fornication (Genesis 34:1,2)

Re: R. Kelly Found Not Guilty

The Christian Progressive Libe — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 21:44:00 -0000

It is only a matter of time before R. Kelly gets caught with his drawers showing because pedophiles, unless they seek counseling, do not think they're doing anything wrong. He's probably feeling he got away with something, and will try it again.

Book it.

Re: R. Kelly Found Not Guilty

The Christian Progressive Libe — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 21:42:00 -0000

How much was the now-23-year-old girl paid to deny she was being pissed on in the tape?

Aaron McGruder predicted this on that episode of the "Boondocks" - man, did he call this one. I feel like I did when they acquitted those LA police officers for beating Rodney King, and the whole thing was caught on tape.

I guess they jury chose not to believe their "lying eyes".

Re: R. Kelly Found Not Guilty

blksista — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:13:00 -0000

The obvious non-worth of the Black female child is front and center here.

Truthfully, I think the girl was paid off, and that it was him.

I'm sure he's planning his next few conquests and that no one will bat an eye.

Re: R. Kelly Found Not Guilty

miss-opinion — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 19:49:00 -0000

14? Kind of a ironic number. No?

Re: R. Kelly Found Not Guilty

Anonymous — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 19:42:00 -0000

It is being reportated that he was acquitted of ALL 14. Not just 7

Re: R. Kelly Found Not Guilty

Anonymous — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 19:37:00 -0000

Chica Dificil said...
I sincerely hope that other children will not be victimized.

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Children wouldn't be victimized if parents wouldn't leave their teen girls around him. It amazes me how many parents know that Michael Jackson and R. Kelly like Pretty Young Thangs and feeling on their booties but keep leaving them around him!

Re: R. Kelly Found Not Guilty

MsMarvalus — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 19:13:00 -0000

I did a post on this when the trial first started...as guilty as I believe this fool is, you could see the holes in the case a mile away...the prosecution's case was weak and there was no way that they were going to be able to win with what they went in there with...

Re: R. Kelly Found Not Guilty

Anonymous — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 18:55:00 -0000

this is just straight fucked up. he peed on a little girl, for chrissakes!! of course it was him on that videotape---there was a damn grammy award next to the bed!

these are probably the same ignorant ass jurors that let off michael jackson. i'm ashamed of my city today.

Re: R. Kelly Found Not Guilty

jelana — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 18:48:00 -0000

I see it a bit differently. My problem was with the state taking it upon itself to prosecute a wealthy black man when no one had filed charges. It's the same old story where a wealthy black man is made an example of. I did not at all see it as a black female is valued less. Perhaps if she or her family had filed a complaint, I could view it that way. This will catch up with him eventually unless he is receiving treatment. That said, I do enjoy his music and I believe he is a musical genius.

Re: R. Kelly Found Not Guilty

Sepia — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 18:45:00 -0000

This really makes me sick! If this was a white girl, he'd be six feet under by now.

What's really sad is the amount of black women that defend this predator, but vilify the victim.

Re: R. Kelly Found Not Guilty

Chica Dificil — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 18:39:00 -0000

I sincerely hope that other children will not be victimized.

Re: R. Kelly Found Not Guilty

Akonuche — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 18:12:00 -0000

I don't know how anyone could find R. Kelly not guilty of ANY of these charges. Are they insane? He's aquitted on a technicality? Wow.

I don't want to get all racial about it, but had this been a white girl, R. Kelly's trial would have long since happened and been over with. And the verdict? Well, I'll just say that it is doubtful that it would be the one we heard today.

I mean, they had a freakin' tape! TAPE! And you still couldn't convict him? I don't know if that is a testament to the prosecution's ineptitude, the defense's talents, the jury's interpretation of "reasonable doubt" or a combination of all three. Out of curiousity, I would really like to know the rational behind the acquital.

Re: R. Kelly Found Not Guilty

rikyrah — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 18:07:00 -0000

Not that we didn't already know, but 'Justice' is GREEN.

We know damn well, that if he had touched just ONE little underaged White girl...

We'd be asking " R. Kelly WHO?"

The obvious non-worth of the Black female child is front and center here.

Don't get me started.

Re: R. Kelly Found Not Guilty

Dr. Ted Baehr — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:54:00 -0000

I applaud the jury for finding Mr. Kelly not-guilty. Now, any chance he'll get a new album out, maybe feature Jay-Z and Coolio on a track or two??

Re: R. Kelly Found Not Guilty

miss-opinion — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:29:00 -0000

Well, if his victim had been a white girl, his life would be a living hell like OJ's. I have never been a fan of his, so I've never contributed to his livlihood in any way. I wish there was a way to make him pay.---

Actually, if it were little BOYS, teenagers, whatever, he would not have anyone lining up for any of his products. Sexual explotation of young girls is apparently more accepted than young.

Look at it, Michael Jackson is a monster to the majority of America, they wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire. But let a rock star, R Kelly, Roman Polanski, anyone, hook up with a 13 year old, a 15 year old, and it's a ok. Even Marvin Gaye had his own young girl relationship.

I feel sick when people play R Kelly music at their wedding receptions. That is not a good way to start a marriage. Just sayin

Re: R. Kelly Found Not Guilty

Adam — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:28:00 -0000

There is plenty of ancedotal evidence that R. is a pedophile. If I were a betting man, I'd put money that he is.

But the lawyer in me knows that the State should have never filed this case.

An old tape, plus no victim testimony is the very definition of reasonable doubt. The State hoped that they could make R. look bad enough that the jury would convict basically because he seems shady as hell.

But jury's are funny things and lawyers are always shocked at how committed most are to get their jobs right.

The sad part is that by filing a case so weak, the State has done nothing but reinforce R's perception that he can get away with a whole bunch.

So if he really is a pedophile, the chances of him getting the help he needs has been reduced to zero.

Re: R. Kelly Found Not Guilty

teacher — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:57:00 -0000

Re: R. Kelly Found Not Guilty

glory — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:42:00 -0000

You deserve an award for that last sentence, alone.