Jack and Jill Politics - Latest Comments in Report from the Ground in Harlem and NV; Obama Calls Bill Out

Re: Report from the Ground in Harlem and NV; Obama Calls Bill Out

Anonymous — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 05:43:00 -0000

Jack, was wondering if alongside the "Clinton attacks Obama" wiki, there was a similar wiki for "Obama techniques to nail the Clintons" (or the KKKlintons as I guess the designation is going).

People around here suggesting the idea of African-Americans in SC grabbing cell phone camcorders and hidden cameras, pretending ambivalence but then rattling the Clinton staffers and nailing them on video-- this and another ideas are outstanding, I just wonder if they're getting the necessary attention. We have to spread the word-- any such Wiki?

Re: Report from the Ground in Harlem and NV; Obama Calls Bill Out

Dragon Horse — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 18:15:00 -0000

Mr. Cilliza:

I don't understand WHY all themedia personalities keep saying Hillary Clinton "won" Nevada when she did not when the majority of delegates.

This is like saying "Gore" won the 2000 presidential election.

In any case Obama just dropped a new national ad, its tight.

http://link.brightcove.com/...

link/bcpid353515028/bctid1385609375

Re: Report from the Ground in Harlem and NV; Obama Calls Bill Out

D. — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 15:31:00 -0000

Thanks, jack.

By the time Obama gets done with the Clintons, he's gonna have no fight left if he gets the nomination.

Re: Report from the Ground in Harlem and NV; Obama Calls Bill Out

The Bag of Health and Politics — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 15:18:00 -0000

John Kerry should be used to go toe to toe with Bill. In fact, John Kerry should challenge Bill to a debate.

Re: Report from the Ground in Harlem and NV; Obama Calls Bill Out

Nanette — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 14:31:00 -0000

Excellent speech.

I also think Bill has done Obama a favor by being out there soooooo much and so prominently, in attacks on Obama.

No matter how mild mannered he is, he IS a younger Black man competing against an older White woman, which right away sets up a... scenario, of sorts, in some minds (which is one reason, I believe, the choke or tear or whatever it was was so effective, besides all the blather spewed by the media yapping heads).

With Bill now out front, co-running and part of the package, Obama can now go after "the Clintons", or even just after the attack dog, Bill - and through him, Hillary - with none of the "Black man threatening White woman" stuff.

Re: Report from the Ground in Harlem and NV; Obama Calls Bill Out

Jack Turner — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 13:37:00 -0000

@D what a great question. Basically, "why complain about vote bullying even if your candidate won?"

I cannot speak for all Obama supporters, but for THIS supporter it's important to call out injustice even (and especially) in the case of victory.

You call it out because it's WRONG, not just because you may have suffered from it.

An injustice anywhere is an injustice everywhere.

Re: Report from the Ground in Harlem and NV; Obama Calls Bill Out

JenJen — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 13:21:00 -0000

What TryExcellence said...

And the video link from What About Our Daughters of Obama supporters in Harlem warmed my heart. Standing out in the freezing cold to say Harlem For Obama!!!!

Re: Report from the Ground in Harlem and NV; Obama Calls Bill Out

rikyrah — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 13:01:00 -0000

The translation is hilarious. I also love the link to What About Our Daughters. I loved it.

Re: Report from the Ground in Harlem and NV; Obama Calls Bill Out

tryexcellence — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 12:59:00 -0000

But is it too little too late? Bill has been and is going to be the rogue gangsta that he is in order to maintain power (I mean help his wife).

In my opinion, Barack's failure (or better yet Barack not having his own rogue to go toe-to-toe with Bill) to address Pimp-Daddy Bill cost him New Hampshire and may cost him South Carolina.

Although Barack does appear to have more character that do either Bill or Hillary, he does need his own Bob Johnson to remind Americans of watergate, Monica gate, and all the other gates in which Billary found themselves involed in the 90s. Just my opinion.

Re: Report from the Ground in Harlem and NV; Obama Calls Bill Out

D. — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 12:57:00 -0000

Obama got more delegates than Clinton, right? So why are people complaining about irregularities if your guy won?

Re: Report from the Ground in Harlem and NV; Obama Calls Bill Out

justice58 — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 10:23:00 -0000

"Translation: Bill, you be lyin!!! And I don't care if you were the president, if your momma was the president, if you're still the president right now. I'm calling you out, son"!!
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Love the translation! There you go!

Re: Report from the Ground in Harlem and NV; Obama Calls Bill Out

natthedem — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 09:53:00 -0000

Video from Obama's speech at Ebenezer Baptist Church is now available:

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Amazing.