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Re: THAT’S THE WAY TO DEFEND YOUR WOMAN

Plantsmantx — Tue, 20 May 2008 19:25:00 -0000

That may be what they're there for, but by waving his supporters/donoes away from them, he's at least trying to neutralize them. It could be because he doen't believe in them ethically, or it could be because he wants complete comtrol over his own messaging. In either case, he definitely is practicing a different kind of politics. Oh yeah, he's a politician. No doubt about it. It's becoming more and more apparent every day just how much of a politician he is, and I mean that as a compliment.

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D. — Tue, 20 May 2008 14:15:00 -0000

But that's what they're there for: to do the negative campaigning that Obama can't/won't/shouldn't do.

Very soon, those 527s-as well as other miscellaneous liberal-leaning organizations-are going to come out and start attacking McCain. Bet you won't see any calls from Obama for a civil campaign then, because the negativity will benefit him.

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Plantsmantx — Tue, 20 May 2008 14:10:00 -0000

"Plantsmantx,
The small donors won't have to contribute. When you have someone who can drop $25M on a whim, you don't need small donors."

What are you talking about? The point is that not only is he not seeking to hide behind those outside groups that would "help" him by engaging in the worst sort of negative campaigning, he's trying to defund them so the are't able to "help" him. That is definitely different.

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PTCruiser — Tue, 20 May 2008 14:06:00 -0000

I am with Obama all the way but Michelle Obama is a legitimate political target if she is making political speeches on her husband's behalf. He can't have it both ways. If he wants her out of the line of fire, then she has to play another role in the campaign. All spouses are legitimate targets if they are part of the campaign. That's why Cindy McCain, for example, has to give up her tax records. She is part of her husband's campaign for president.

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hustings — Tue, 20 May 2008 13:51:00 -0000

ronnie b,

The Laura Bush car accident in which her boyfriend died was repeated many times during the GWB's first campaign. That's how I learned about it.

No credible report of her having an abortion was ever released.

Meanwhile, she steered clear of controversy.

As for press bias, well, yes, it tends to favor Democrats.

Michelle will seek publicity and generate controversy. She will obtain press coverage, but undoubtedly her outspokenness will backfire again in the campaign. But it will matter far more when she strikes against McCain instead of other Democrats.

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Anonymous — Tue, 20 May 2008 09:49:00 -0000

Yet you won't publically say why. And that's where I think y'all lose your credibility. You know that the media's being biased, yet you allow your party loyalty to prevent you from saying so.
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I don't think "party loyalty" has anything to do with it. We all know why Michelle is being hit and Cindy ain't. Michelle and Barack know why, John and Cindy know why, and the media knows why.

It's only the media and white folks that are pretending not to know why, just as they pretend not to understand why Barack can't capture the redneck, hardworking white people of WV, OH, PA...

We all know the truth! But Americans (white ones in particular) can't handle the truth. So anyone who gets up and puts a dent in the American Myth is "unAmerican," "unpatriotic," "racist," "angry," etc.

And if you wanna know the real deal on Michelle Obama, it is this: Michelle Obama is a dark brown, thin, attractive, well put together woman who isn't cheesing and grinning and shucking and jiving. And they don't like that.

Now, if Michelle were fat, jolly and grinning all the time like Sherri Shepherd, I doubt seriously she'd be painted as the "angry racist black woman."

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D. — Tue, 20 May 2008 09:21:00 -0000

Ronnie,
Why? Do tell.

Plantsmantx,

The small donors won't have to contribute. When you have someone who can drop $25M on a whim, you don't need small donors.

Re: THAT’S THE WAY TO DEFEND YOUR WOMAN

Ronnie B — Tue, 20 May 2008 09:11:00 -0000

Was Laura Bush ever publically questioned or criticized about her drinking? Her drunk driving collision that killed her then-boyfriend? The abortion she was alleged to have had?

Of course not. Yet she gave interviews; she publilcally campaigned for her husband during their Restoring Dignity to the White House campaign.

Yeah, some of you say that these women *ought* to be the same fair game as Michelle Obama. But you know damned well that she's not going to be ... AND you know why.

Yet you won't publically say why. And that's where I think y'all lose your credibility. You know that the media's being biased, yet you allow your party loyalty to prevent you from saying so.

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Anonymous — Tue, 20 May 2008 02:51:00 -0000

I was referring to the Chelsea attacks she endured during her father's campaign.

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Nquest — Tue, 20 May 2008 00:31:00 -0000

We all know that if MICHELLE had 10 million, yet alone 100 million...

And that's the thing. It's not about being "hit", it's what they're trying to "hit" with. This "unAmerican" READ: Real Blacks aren't to be trusted -AND- "Brief To Whitey"... How Dare A Nigga Ever Be So UnGrateful...

That's the sh*t that they want to "hit" with - the subtext-undertone in this.

Ms. Martin made an excellent point re: the different way Chelsea has been treated. The media (and the right) were on her side when they easily could/should called her a snot. Michelle could have never been that rude to a questioner. In fact, the whole fallout re: Rev. Wright at the NPC revolved around how he gave the middle finger to them stupid-azz questions he was asked.

Unlike Chelsea's questioner, the stuff Rev. Wright was asked never came from a SUPPORTER of Rev. Wright and we all know Michelle nor Barack could ever think they could say not only am I going to tailor the audience to my liking but never could they ever get away with setting preconditions on what questions will and won't be entertained.

White folks (racist language according to...) feel like any and every question they have, no matter how stupid, how irrelevant, how Guilt-By-Irrelevant-Association-ish must be answered.

Speaking of that (and thinking of the racist idea that Barack, a Black man, has to answer for and denounce any Black boogeyman (read: Farrakhan) on demand), I heard John McCain has had a relationship/association with John Hagee for several years, William Ayers like, from their membership or involvement with AIPAC.

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Ms.Martin — Mon, 19 May 2008 23:41:00 -0000

Nqest

LOL!!! It wasn't me, it was you.

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Anonymous — Mon, 19 May 2008 23:38:00 -0000

Excuse me but Hillary was hit when Bill was running. Chelsea was hit. Tipper was hit. Theresa was hit. Even Dick Cheney's daughter was hit.

What makes Obama special?

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The more important question is "What makes Cindy McCain so special?"

They've been laying off Cindy McCain and tip toeing around her, and I know diggitydamn well if Michelle had done half the stuff Cindy did, Hannity & 'Em would be grinding Michelle down in the ground. Rev. Wright would look like a trip to the tot lot.

Yes, Teresa was hit. Michelle is being hit. Hillary was hit. Cindy ain't special and she needs to take some hits too, especially if they continue going after Michelle and especially since Cindy inserted herself into the mix by saying "I'on know 'bout you, but..."

Re: THAT’S THE WAY TO DEFEND YOUR WOMAN

Nquest — Mon, 19 May 2008 23:29:00 -0000

Ms. Martin,

How'd you convince brother Barack to apologize so much, so soon?

(I'm on record for saying I could not forgive him for not doing what he's done now as soon as they started this mess with Michelle Obama.)

Re: THAT’S THE WAY TO DEFEND YOUR WOMAN

Planysmantx — Mon, 19 May 2008 23:00:00 -0000

"Sometimes I wonder if Barack and Michelle (and their campaign strategists) live in LaLa Dreamland. Didn't they ever encounter bullies in school and at work? The worst thing to do is to let the bully know they hit a sore spot. Barack has just given the Republicans permission to pounce."

"What did he think was going to happen? Was he really looking for a fair fight?"

Ah, we're all familiar with this one. it's the "The best way for a black man to show he is strong is by shutting up and folding". That way, you'll still be thought of as "one of the good ones".

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Plantsmantx — Mon, 19 May 2008 22:57:00 -0000

"It will be interesting to note the hypocrisy that comes when the Soros machine and the democratic 527s crawl from under the rocks."

"For all the talk about "running a different kind of campaign," this one won't be that different."

Seeing as how he's asked his small donors not to contribute to the 527's I think he is running a different kind of camapign, indeed.

Re: THAT’S THE WAY TO DEFEND YOUR WOMAN

justice58 — Mon, 19 May 2008 22:55:00 -0000

"scruncher, Obama is daring the GOP to try it again.

Let the games begin.

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Oh Yeah! I saw it in his eyes on GMA & Robin Roberts saw it also, that's why she was shaking her head like--- hell yeah, Barack!

Go Barack!

Re: THAT’S THE WAY TO DEFEND YOUR WOMAN

Plantsmantx — Mon, 19 May 2008 22:55:00 -0000

"Excuse me but Hillary was hit when Bill was running. Chelsea was hit. Tipper was hit. Theresa was hit. Even Dick Cheney's daughter was hit."

Yes, they were "hit". And they were defended. What's your point?

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justice58 — Mon, 19 May 2008 22:49:00 -0000

"Obama is not a coward. Check the cowardly hypocrisy when Cindy is exposed for the tweeking, adulterous, fraud that she is. That's all. I guess by comparison hit away and drown in the 3 to 1 backlash.
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ahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Yeah!

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rikyrah — Mon, 19 May 2008 22:35:00 -0000

Thanks for the post CPL.

I was cheering when I heard them both this morning. I was like, YEAH...HELL YEAH.

We all know that if MICHELLE had 10 million, yet alone 100 million..

And, if SHE had been caught stealing from a CHARITY in order to pay for a DRUG HABIT...

We'd be hearing about it 24/7/365.

If MICHELLE were Barack's SECOND WIFE THAT HE MET WHILE CHEATING ON WIFE NUMBER ONE..

We'd be hearing all sorts of debates on Barack's ' Character'.

We all know this....

We know the double standard.

But, it was good to hear him defend Michelle. I told y'all, long before I supported Barack, I knew I loved Michelle...LOL

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Ms.Martin — Mon, 19 May 2008 22:32:00 -0000

I don't much mind them taking her to task, I just mind them twisting statements to come up with something to take her to task with.

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bpm — Mon, 19 May 2008 22:16:00 -0000

Obama is not a coward. Check the cowardly hypocrisy when Cindy is exposed for the tweeking, adulterous, fraud that she is. That's all. I guess by comparison hit away and drown in the 3 to 1 backlash.

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Anonymous — Mon, 19 May 2008 22:07:00 -0000

Excuse me but Hillary was hit when Bill was running. Chelsea was hit. Tipper was hit. Theresa was hit. Even Dick Cheney's daughter was hit.

What makes Obama special?

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bpm — Mon, 19 May 2008 22:02:00 -0000

I doubt dem 527s will make an issue of Cindy's law breaking and morally questionable past unless the Cowardly GOP continue to attack Michelle. Like Obama said come after him but don't hit a woman or a child but if you do well don't complain when your poster child for addiction, adultery and fraud is put on blast.

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D. — Mon, 19 May 2008 21:37:00 -0000

It will be interesting to note the hypocrisy that comes when the Soros machine and the democratic 527s crawl from under the rocks.

For all the talk about "running a different kind of campaign," this one won't be that different.

Then again, what's a little verbal sparring to a former POW?

Re: THAT’S THE WAY TO DEFEND YOUR WOMAN

Craig Hickman — Mon, 19 May 2008 21:31:00 -0000

truthseeker, if Obama said nothing, he'd be criticized for not defending his wife.

Let the GOP keep coming attacking Michelle.

All Obama said is that they need to be careful.

If the GOP don't believe fat meat is greasy, let'm have at it.