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damn, all this blather about the anger of reverend wright, and i don't think you'll find an angrier man than pat buchanan.
scratch this little combover motherfucker and there's a screeching bigoted lunatic inside.
he scares the shit out of me and i'm white. what a pathetic creature he is, and how outrageous that he's given a prominent platform at msnbc.
Anybody watching this SOB over the years saw this bigot coming a mile off. Even though he fooled people with some comments that actually made sense, but one never saw him put those sentiments into action.
Which confirmed to me that he was a closted bigot, but the Obama run is scaring the crap out of him, Sean Hannity and Bill O'Reilly, because Obama may actually get a law passed that says he will respect freedom of speech, but if that speech is used to incite riots and acts of sedition against the Federal Government, someone's going to jail.
Consider the past few statements that have been made about Clinton before he earned his way onto our crap list, and you'll see what I mean.
"If he comes down here, he'd better bring the Secret Service down here for his own protection." Former Senator Jesse Helms (R-NC).
I don't know about you, but my government law book tells me that when you make a statement like that regarding a sitting and current POTUS, the Secret Service should be knocking on your door and waiting outside with the silver braclets to take you to the grey-bar hotel because you physically threatened the life of the POTUS, which is a Federal offense, punishable up to 25-to-life in the joint, and the death penalty if successful.
The MSM gave Helms a free pass.
Obama's getting death threats; even as a U. S. Senator, I'm wondering if there's a law that prohibits threatening elected officials the same way there would be for the President.
I'm just saying - the ilk of the ReThugs in the MSM are scared to death at the thought of having to defer to a "President Obama". Fake News knows they have torn their asses with Obama - no access to the White House for at least four years, and if caught making stuff up, he can have them pulled off the air through the new commissioners he'll appoint over at the FCC.
Think about that. I'm sure Buchanan is... ;-)
I see his point. The phrasing is, for lack of a more appropriate word, shitty.
Pat's just saying out loud what many, many (white anglo, with some black; haven't heard from latino, asian or amerindian) people feel. They are not all gun-toting klansmen, either.
Either Irish Pat has forgotten his history, or he knows it too well.
Blacks contributions, indeed the black push behind much of the best of America, is never acknowledged, in the way Pat phrases his shit -- it's always Blacks as beneficiaries of White largesse. Blacks are children. Blacks are passive, always. Civil War? white folks. Desegregation? white folks gave it to blacks. The vote? white folks were being generous.
I blame the way history is taught in school (thank you Mr. Loewen for your enlightening books, wherever you are). All effect, no cause.
How Pat phrases his shit is the 'nice', modern way of saying "slaves were given food and shelter and were too valuable to be treated the way you niggers insist we white folk treated you..." from the same people who spit "don't include me in what happened back then because i never owned slaves and am not responsible for what happened back then" Like Hillary Clinton, they take credit for the good ('you niggers would be living in mud huts in Africa if you weren't enslaved!') while refusing to touch the bad ('you niggers need to stop blaming us for slavery and lynching and the rest!') -- and NEVER acknowledging blacks in American history as anything other than going along for the ride while other people do the lifting, heavy and light.
And, again, I look at Pat differently because Pat's a fucking Irishman. And I see the route Pat's gone down as the same route Latinos are going down -- and even more quickly, Asians. But more on that later.
Pat Buchanan is a racist.
Pat Buchanan is a Republican.
Ergo all Republicans are racist.
Blacks and Democrats already believe this.
Republicans know that this is a massive generalization.
Swing voters are disgusted by the far-left and the far-right.
Continually talking about race and calling out white racists, while rationalizing and excusing black racists is very harmful to Obama's candidacy.
Its turning into a fever swamp over here.
Meanwhile, Hillary plans a major economic speech, charges arise that both Obama and Clinton have embellished their senate records, and the NYT 'hit piece' on McCain reinforces his appeal to white male Dems and swing voters.
MEDIA EXPOSED ! Coniving Media Never Mentions Rev. Wright's Sermon Was Quoting A WHITE MAN on Fox News !
Meet the man who inspired Reverend Jeremiah Wright's now famous tirade about America's foreign policy inciting the terrorist attacks of September 11.
His name is Ambassador Edward Peck. And he is a retired, white, career U.S. diplomat who served 32-years in the U.S. Foreign Service and was chief of the U.S. mission to Iraq under Jimmy Carter -- hardly the black-rage image with which Wright has been stigmatized.
In fact, when Wright took the pulpit to give his post-9/11 address -- which has since become boiled down to a five second sound bite about "America's chickens coming home to roost" -- he prefaced his remarks as a "faith footnote," an indication that he was deviating from his sermon.
"I heard Ambassador Peck on an interview yesterday," Wright declared. "He was on Fox News. This is a white man and he was upsetting the Fox News commentators to no end. He pointed out, a white man, an ambassador, that what Malcolm X said when he got silenced by Elijah Muhammad was in fact true: America's chickens are coming home to roost."
Wright then went on to list more than a few U.S. foreign policy endeavors that, by the tone of his voice and manner of his expression, he viewed as more or less deplorable. This included, as has been demonstrated in the endless loop of clips from his sermon, bombing Hiroshima and Nagasaki and nuking "far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon and we never batted an eye."
"Violence begets violence," Wright said, "hatred begets hatred, and terrorism begets terrorism."
And then he concluded by putting the comments on Peck's shoulders: "A white ambassador said that yall, not a black militant, not a reverend who preaches about racism, an ambassador whose eyes are wide open and is trying to get us to wake up and move away from this dangerous precipice... the ambassador said that the people we have wounded don't have the military capability we have, but they do have individuals who are willing to die and take thousands with them... let me stop my faith footnote right there."
So it seems that while Wright did believe American held some responsibility for 9/11, his views, which have been described as radically outside the political mainstream, were actually influenced by a career foreign policy official.
Who is Peck? The ambassador, who has offered controversial criticism of Israeli policy in the West Bank but also warned against the Iraq War, was lecturing on a cruise ship and was unavailable for comment. But officials at Peck's former organization, the Council for the National Interest, a non-profit group that advocates reducing Israel's influence on U.S. Middle East policy, offered descriptions of the man.
"Peck is very outspoken," said Eugene Bird, who now heads CNI. "He is also very good at making phrases that have a resonance with the American people. When he came off of that Fox News, a few days later he said they would never invite me back again."
And what, exactly, did Peck say in that Fox News interview that inspired Wright's words?
Here are some quotes from an appearance the Ambassador made on the network on October 11, 2001, which may or may not have been the segment Wright was referring to. On the show, Peck said he thought it was illogical to tie Saddam Hussein to the terrorist attacks on 9/11, and that while the then-Iraqi leader had "some very sound and logical reasons not to like [the United States]," he and Osama bin Laden had no other ties.
From there, Peck went on to ascribe motives for what prompted the 9/11 attacks. "Stopping the economic embargo and bombings of Iraq," he said, "things to which Osama bin Laden has alluded as the kinds of things he doesn't like. He doesn't think it's appropriate for the United States to be doing, from his perspective, all the terrible things that he sees us as having been doing, the same way Saddam Hussein feels. So from that perspective, they have a commonality of interests. But they also have a deeply divergent view of the role of Islam in government, which would be a problem."
NOTE: So there you go. All this time the media NEVER let us know that Rev. Wright was simply quoting someone else....a distinguished WHITE MAN....on FOX NEWS ! The coniving, destructive, falsified, hate mongoring tactics of the media WILL NOT BE TOLERATED !
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As the citizens in Germany have come to grips with their racist past by implementing all types of safeguards to prevent it from happening again and passing legislation in order to TEACH their citizens via commemorations, museums, etc. about not repeating this history, White Americans cannot/will not confront the evil history of this country.
What will it take for someone to make the first step and do that in THIS country. We have all types of memorials to the Jewish experience in Germany, yet these same citizens of this country are in denial about what this country visited upon African Americans.
Just sweep it under the rug, I don't want to hear about what my white ancestors did. This selective denial of THIS country's atrocities in evident every time an African American is accused of being not patriotic enough.
Their is guilt in those phrases about not being the one who committed these sins, as they know full well that a perverse affirmative action has always been practiced to their benefit, and are now threatened that maybe if African Americans are allowed to FREELY compete, their little half-wit son John, might not be able to get that job because somebody who was actually qualified for it due to preparation and brains (hint: African-American) got it instead. This scenario has been repeated for years, and only now because an African-American has the seams began to bust and the virulent racism oozes out of these who just cannot stand that an EDUCATED, ARTICULATED, BLACK MAN could become the next president of the US. Now how's that for being threatened?
Buchanan appears to be one of those people who expects non-white peoples to genuflect to white righteousness (to the extent it exists). Listen to him talk; not on MSM TV outlets, but with like-minded conservatives like Michael Savage. He prefers an America where the White male is still seen as the head of the table. Where white people are seen as the true Americans, and where non-white peoples aspire to assimilate (and acquiesce) to that cultural structure.
Make no mistake about it; Buchanan isn't Archie Bunker. He's the worst kind of advocate of a softened form of white supremacy.
I don't disagree. I just don't want to see the point, which is more than valid, get dropped because he can't communicate it without pissing people off.
- KXB
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squarepeg,
I don't know how old you are but I can tell you that in my lifetime to present, white Americans have been taught about the past sins of this country! Elementary schools to college campuses all across this country have history lessons giving voice to all of the victims of white oppression.
To top it all off, we also have to listen to all manner of insane conspiracy theories and hate speech spewed by Wright that has obviously have taken a foothold in the black community at-large. We must tolerate it, understand and give it a least half a pass, because of all the evil whites have done!
Multiculturalsim and political correctness, combined with a liberal, virulent anti-American sentiment seek to minimize the great freedom, opportunity, and success we as Americans enjoy.
Not so long ago, many on this blog were hopeful about the possibility transcending race in politics. But Obama and his pastor, their apologists and supporters have succeeded in bringing us all down to our lowest common denominator. The 'bloom is off the rose.'
I just don't want to see the point, which is more than valid, get dropped because he can't communicate it without pissing people off.
That's just it, D. How can anyone suggest to me that I'm better off in America than I am in, say, Fiji?
This is precisely my point about Buchanan's racism--not his bigotry or his stupidity or his running off at the mouth--his racism. He's a firm believer that unless Black people live in America, and assimilate to white superiority, that they are somehow worse off elsewhere.
Now, there were plenty of artful ways that Buchanan could have tried to say what he meant, but it wouldn't have mattered. We know what he means.
Wow! Things they are a changing!
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I'm so proud of Chris! Bill had to sit there and answer these disrespectful, embarrassing questions from these nobody reporters. Whatever happened to protocol and respect? They wouldn't dare question idiot Bush Jr this way. You've got to watch this!
First Fox, then CNN, now MSNBC...the media is taking notice.
I love this race (thought it needs to be over) because folk can't hide their true natures: Repub or Liberal.
It's great.
Oh just wait until they have to say President Obama...
Did any one happen to catch Hot Topics on The View today? The subject was Reverend Wright and Obama's typical "white person" remark (which of course has been taken out of context by the media). Typical Blonde Elizabeth Haselback rejected the definition of a racist provided by Joy Beher and said she wanted and I'm quoting "The Rules on Racism".
Elizabeth is one of the reasons I stopped watching The View. Only watched today because I get a heads up from my Mom.
So, what are "The Rules of Racism"?
If anyone has video of Trinity Church's 6:30 AM service which aired on TVOne yesterday, the part about Katrina and New Orleans is worth posting.
Oh but we don't want to discuss that because that was SOO long ago. Which is a crock anyway, on the scale of who's people have been slaves most recently scale.
That's miraculous for white America, from where I sit. And WE should be grateful? It was on our backs that their riches would come! It was from our blood that their country was made! And we are to be grateful?! Sheer idiocy.
The benefits Buchanan says we should be grateful for are there because of the gross and detrimental inequality between people, much of which is deeply tinged with race. It's historically inaccurate at best to say these things we enjoy are merely unearned or unnecessary GIFTS handed to us poor stupid Negros. Pat Buchanan is smart, but the man is far from wise.
However, Fox News is claiming that Kilmeade's walk off was a joke. Please see the Huffington Post of details.
This has got to stop.....no really...it does.
That's why I said cover both sides. There's good on both sides, and you don't have to go all the way back to slavery to find it.
If you look past the BS-which there is a lot of!-the question isn't if black people are better off in America or not; it becomes a question of when we're going to have a real, honest discussion on race in this country ("straight talk," if you will) and what that discussion will entail.
I don't agree. It's not just a matter of phrasing, and he wasn't trying to point out the good- because he doesn't think any of the examples he gave WERE good. He thinks of them only as part of an effort to appease, and as such, he thinks they're bad.
Not so fast, chief. Buchanan DID suggest that Black people are better off in America. Therefore, that statement IS in question.
Unless, of course, you've concluded that it's a fact not worthy of argument ...
Just because we can seen the hypocrisy in the statement doesn't mean everyone else does.
But the truth is Pat doesn't want to debate. He is entrenched in his beliefs and doesn't want to hear what black ppl have to say.
Thats why he thought it was ok to tell Kelli to shut up on MSNBC. He doesn't respect black people so he would never truly be open for a debate about this issue.
You never cease to amaze.
A part of me can't believe you are who you say you are when you defend the content of Pat Buchanan's diatribe as an "it's not so much what you say, it's how you say it" conundrum.
Didn't Barack Obama say that Blacks can not continue to use the history of oppression in this nation as an excuse to remain victims to it? Didn't he also say that we must take personal responsibility to improve our lives? Didn't he also present racial relations through the eyes of white people who have legitimate resentment?
Of course he did.
His patriotic agenda didn't include some heinous attack on white people for harming Black people or Hispanic people or Native Americans.
Imagine that.
But Buchanan, who belongs to a white ethnic group that Obama spoke of, didn't hear any of that nuance because he couldn't stand that Obama was taking a damaging situation and turning it into an advantage right in front of Buchanan's eyes.
Obama couldn't have hurt him more had he sprayed mace in his face. Had he stuck needles under his fingernails.
So Buchanan is on a mission of vengeance against a man who scares the shit out of him.
If Obama doesn't lose Pennsylvania by more than 20 points, then Buchanan, and the rest of those in denial about what's really happening in this election, including every single Clinton supporter on the planet, will have failed.
Miserably.
Clinton can win Pennsylvania without spending another penny campaigning there. Without making another single appearance: rally, town hall, debate or otherwise. She's got the entire political machine in her corner. A machine led by a governor who's on MSNBC as I write lying through his teeth that endorsements don't matter after Richardson's support of Obama, called up every single major mayor in Pennslyvania and urged them to publicly endorse Clinton because he knows full well that political endorsements matter. That "underlings" are expected to step in line and follow their bosses' leads.
And yet, her Republican detractors and McCain hopefuls, including you, know they can have their way with her in November and so they continue to do whatever they can to deliver her a bigger victory, hoping, ironically, in a way that Obama has preached, that her miraculous resurrection will happen (James McCarville calling the Mexican-American governor Judas was no coincidence) and Hillary will find a way convince her party's "leaders" to overturn the will of the people (the electoral map argument is her latest debacle) and give her the nomination.
A sit com as Chris Matthews called it. A farce I call it.
Make no mistake, if Obama survives all of this and gets the nomination, then he will emerge as a gutsier fighter and more resilient candidate that Hillary can ever claim.
There will be exactly one way to stop him from being elected President of the United States and Commander-in-Chief of the nation's military, and one way only.
D~
srpeter and Craig Hickman said it better than I could.
The kind of racism that Buchanan harbors does not warrant a "two-sides" argument. It's sad and disturbing that in order to be a Republican, one must accept that racism has a "side" worthy of argument.
With all that edumacation and I meant edumacation, why oh why my friend is it so hard for this country to acknowlege by apologizing and erecting centers of "enlightenment" about the evils and horrors of slavery?
I means, after all that edumacation that Patty Boy has received, it obviously has not gotten through to him.
Que Sera, Que Sera for all you people who were looking for any excuse to vote against Obama, and blog on this page hoping to influence these weak-mined simpleton.
My friend, it hasn't worked and want as you make your daily report on how those negroes are just not listening to you.
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TRANSLATION:
You people of color (who are not white) how dare you question us true Americans who have allowed you the priviledge of living and working your asses off in this country for no money, fight in its wars only to come home to the back of the bus, segregate you in substandard hell holes, not allow you to receive an adequate education, suffer a stacked criminal justice system, and you dare question to lives we have afforded you! What are you complaining about. I mean we did quit lynching you didn't we?
This is the American way. Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness for us real Americans!