DISQUS

Rachel · 1 year ago

oh man. i am so glad that mrs. clinton is not a subtle woman: "...one Nevada activist who has worked for years in the state said,
"This (caucus) plan was created by some of the same people who are plaintiffs in the suit against it," he said. "It's not that they didn't like the plan when Clinton was ahead.""



ahahaha. alienate the unions, alienate the educated, alienate the minorities, have televised breakdowns and tantrums, sling mud so fast and furious you end up covered in it...i honestly thought obama was too good for this process and could never make it, but i underestimated the ability of the clintons to totally freaking implode!



gobama!

JenJen · 1 year ago

What's really interesting here is that the 9 caucus sites on the Vegas Strip are available to any Democrat who wants to caucus. You don't have to be a hotel or casino worker, and you don't have to be in a union. You could just be somebody stuck working the Saturday shift at the movie theater or the In-n-Out. As long as you're stuck working Saturday and you're within 2 1/2 miles of the Strip, you can caucus.


And this is what the Clintons wanted to stop? Unprecedented access to join with your community and have your voice heard in the form of a caucus? Isn't this a direction maybe we should all consider moving toward?



That's why the whole lawsuit was so disingenuous to begin with. It was and remains an attempt to make it more difficult for a powerful union which endorsed a different candidate to rally its Saturday shift workers at a caucus to vote for that candidate. And it screws anyone working at the Gas-and-Sip on Tropicana in the meantime.



I really do hope everyone remembers what the Clintons (watch Bill's argument with the reporter against the at-large caucus sites) and their supporters tried to do in Nevada.

faboo · 1 year ago

On my blog, I noted that Bill Clinton's word choices sound an awful lot like the wording that was used in the lawsuit. The lawsuit he was trying to distance the Clinton campaign from.


Also check the Nev. Dem Caucus rules and you'll see that their "concerns" don't exactly mean crap. Anyone who lives there and wants to caucus can. You can even be a Republican and register as Democrat for the day and caucus. No matter where the caucuses are held. Since most of them are being held a schools, the NSEAs claim of their "poor disenfranchised janitors" doesn't hold water, as they janitor can caucus while at the school, no matter where they live.

babyming · 1 year ago

May I respectfully suggest that Obama needs to reach out to Latino voters, now. Frankly (and I hate to talk in such terms) Senator Clinton's racism (is there another word for it?) is meant to resonate with Latinos as well as whites. A couple of days ago I saw Hillary smiling behind an "America con Hillary" sign. Again, I'm sorry to talk in such divisive terms, but if Latinos break for Hillary, it may all be over on February 5.

The Bag of Health and Politics · 1 year ago

I believe Obama's running Spanish language television and radio ads. His "Yes, we can," slogan has been changed to "Si se perude," (sp?, long time since I've written Spanish). I really don't have a clue about Nevada. I do know that the Clintons didn't come off well with the lawsuit.


The union is running a negative ad against her, which is harsh but truthful in regards to the matter. We'll see how it plays out.

The Christian Progressive Libe · 1 year ago

That Culinary Union endorsed Obama, so the Borg Queen tries to disenfranchise them out of the Nevada Debates.


I don't care about the attempt to kiss and make up with Obama, in backing off the race issue, but this is below the belt and further convinces me that she will do anything to win; more so than the Big Dog.



I fully expect the Dixiecrat tactics to resurface and not a subtle with "code words" as before.



Bob Johnson was forced to apologize to Obama. His enthusiasm in dissing Obama went too far, but now he'll get to make up for it by toting the Borg Queen's water again.

Ronnie B · 1 year ago

May I respectfully suggest that Obama needs to reach out to Latino voters, now. Frankly (and I hate to talk in such terms) Senator Clinton's racism (is there another word for it?) is meant to resonate with Latinos as well as whites. A couple of days ago I saw Hillary smiling behind an "America con Hillary" sign. Again, I'm sorry to talk in such divisive terms, but if Latinos break for Hillary, it may all be over on February 5.


This could be a moot point if Bill Richardson endorses Barack.

NMP · 1 year ago

As I have been predicting for some time, the effort to supplant the Black vote with the Latino vote in the Democratic Party is well underway as apparent by the new coalition of White and Latino voters for Hillary Clinton in states with large Latino populations. The writing has been on the wall for some time, but we have just been too damn blind to see it. The Clintons to their credit have been successful in exploiting the much under reported racial hostility by non-Puerto Rican Latinos against African Americans while we've pretended it doesn't exist. The same can be said about Jews as well. There is growing evidence this is not just voter preference for Senator Clinton but a concerted effort to vote against Senator Obama.


While I have considered voting a duty in homage to OUR forefathers and mothers who struggled and sacrificed for our suffrage rights, I think I will be sending an equally principled message by not voting in November if Senator Clinton is the nominee, which appears that she will be. I have no intention of continuing to validate the plantation politics of the Democratic Party. We are owed far more than this!

Anonymous · 1 year ago

Why should African-American dreams still have to go through white liberals?


The truth is they don't. Not if Obama wins the nomination.



So HillBill and the Democrat Party white liberal establishment need a new, Latino base to defeat Obama. Sharpton, Rangle and others fear a 'race-neutral candidate' almost as much as HillBill does because they will lose clout in their alliance with the white liberal establishment. This is why they are woking against Obama, but little do they know that La Rasa and Villagarosa are the Clinton's new BFFs.

The Christian Progressive Libe · 1 year ago

But, Fabian Nunez is the one Latino Obama should have on speed dial if he wants California Latinos locked up on the vote.


It's Nunez who got a whole lot of African-Americans up to the State Assembly in Sacramento - he's the rainmaker and not Villaragoisa.



It wouldn't hurt Obama to put in a call to Willie Brown, either...

faboo · 1 year ago

Nunez is persona non grata right now. Any politician willing to cozy up with him in nuts. Until Nunez can straighten his 5 in a row scandals with some kind of honesty, then no one's listening to him. Even his "friends" manage not to be seen with him and they're not up for reelection for a few more years.


And I wouldn't worry too much about Villaraigosa. After his affair came out, he lost a lot of standing in the community. Everyone finds it hilarious he's rolling with the Clinton's. Joke is Bill is teaching Tony some tricks. Harhar. Right? Still, Sen.Clinton endorsed him for mayor so tit-for-tat. Besides if he had gone to Obama, I'm sure the Clinton campaign would have figured some way to blame Obama for Villaraigosa's affair.

marc · 1 year ago

holy ghost! someone has just mentioned (coined?) a great expression: "the borg queen". man, i love that image! spread it.


the clintos aren't a choice anymore since this nevada lawsuit. they don't want elections, they want elections their way.



let's give them elections they won't ever forget, and never come back from.

kimbers · 1 year ago

Hillary's campaign is destroying the Democratic party. She has pitted Blacks against whites, Latino's against everyone, women against men, women against women,young against old and stood by while her supporters have attempted to do some Union busting. She is shameless in her quest for the presidency. I believe that how she has run her campaign foretells what her time in the Whitehouse will be.


Should she become the nominee, she puts all of us who will not vote for her in a terrible position.



Like nmp, I have considered not voting, but I am also considering voting Republican - not a message I want to send but one I may feel like I must, if for no other reason than to be able to look at myself in the mirror and know I did everything I could.

Anonymous · 1 year ago

I think Willie Brown (D-SF)is waiting to see who is in the lead going into the convention. I noticed that Nancy Pelosi was in Iowa in late October introducing Obama as the new President of the United States. Dianne Feinstein has come out for Hillary. However Bill has gotten lots of support from SF's wealthy democrats. WBrown's son Michael has come out for Hillary and Brown's former girlfriend, SF District Attorney Kamala Harris is heading up the Obama SF team. I figure Willie wants his finger in both camps at this point. Go to www.sfgate.com and pull up Chron's video of its editorial board's interview of Barack Obama. He is completely comfortable in his skin and brilliant!

Anonymous · 1 year ago

Well, Clinton took Nevada. While she kept her lead among women voters, what should be of concern to Obama is how well she did among Hispanics, which broke 3-1 in favor of Clinton.


This led me to one exciting scenario - if Clinton gets the nomination, she would then have to decide to see if she can repair her image with black voters or does she reward Hispanics by taking Bill Richardson on as a running mate to help her in the Southwest?



If that is the case - then there is a "chance" that black voters will be in play, if the Republican party plays its card right. If John McCain can get the nomination, and chooses J.C. Watts as a running mate - that would be one helluva fight. McCain does well among fiscal hawks, independents, he spoke against the Confederate flag in SC, he foretold the problems in Iraq without enough ground troops, wanted Rumsfeld fired before any other senator (even Clinton).



Watts won several terms as a Republican from Oklahoma - his conservative credentials are pretty well established. And he may be the one black Republican who can draw enough disgruntled black voters, if only for 2008.



- KXB

Ronnie B · 1 year ago

I'm not conceding a thing at this point. Yes, the Hispanic margin was larger than I expected, and with Richardson playing wait-and-see, an endorsement by a nationally known and respected Latino is crucial for Obama.


On the flip side, the delegate count was dead even, while the margin of victory was 6%. That leaves room for a pick-up of some Latino voters. Unfortunately, considering the schism between Blacks and Latinos, it might be too much to ask for them to accept a Black president (which would be seen as a "win" for Black people.)

Nita · 1 year ago

Innoculation. Those Clintons are brilliant. Their rope a dope (first in New Hampshire, now in Nevada) stylings are remarkable.


They have absolutely no business whatsoever getting anywhere near the White House as co-presidents. Period.



I've always wondered why the Republicans hatred of the Clintons seemed to be so far out of proportion to what it appeared the Clintons were doing. I don't wonder anymore. I always liked the Clintons. Now I feel like their 8 years was laced with rohypnol. Something is not right. If this is politics as usual... something is still not right. There has to be a better way.