DISQUS

Shhs? · 1 year ago

Harold Fords wife gave the max (well almost) to Hillary Clinton. Why didn't we catch this earlier?

http://fundrace.huffingtonpost.com/neighbors.ph...

99 Percent Sure · 1 year ago

Well, seeing as how Harold is the DLC chair and seeing as how the DLC is pro-Clintons/anti-DNC, I'm not surprised. The Clintons have been trying for years to split the Democratic Party and I believe that part of their most unreasonable and intense dislike of Obama is because they tried to make him their boy just like they did Dark Sith, but Obama wasn't having it.

Because that's how they roll.

msmartin · 1 year ago

I bet they did try to make him part of their camp; I'm sure at one time that must have seemed like a lucrative partnership for black politicians who wanted to be successful on the national level, but Senator Obama is far to intelligent to be led by the Clintons.

99 Percent Sure · 1 year ago

From The Black Commentator, dated June 26,2003: Obama has name removed from DLC List -

Barack Obama will not be carrying the Democratic Leadership Council’s baggage in his race to become the second Black person to represent Illinois in the U.S. Senate. The state senator and professor of constitutional law has told The Black Commentator that he is acting to have his name stricken from the “New Democrats Directory,” a list of several hundred DLC-affiliated elected officials.

"I am not currently, nor have I ever been, a member of the DLC,” said Obama, in a statement that substantially reflects a telephone conversation with Associate Editor Bruce Dixon, this weekend. “It does appear that, without my knowledge, the DLC…listed me in their ‘New Democrat’ directory,” Obama continued. “Because I agree that such a directory implies membership, I will be calling the DLC to have my name removed, and appreciate your having brought this fact to my attention.”

msmartin · 1 year ago

Thanks for that story 99. I guess my intuition is spot on.

bison1 · 1 year ago

He was always a Hillary man--DLC!

msmartin · 1 year ago

Reminds me of a blog post I read about him trying to pass his grandmother off as a white woman passing for black.

msmartin · 1 year ago

It figures.

Miss-Opinion · 1 year ago

I guess everyone has to have their moment when they discover that Kos is a fake as they come.

hopee · 1 year ago

99 percent sure, you are so right. I was surprised by Kos's outrage and how he felt the need to share it with so many people and now his love fest with Ford makes him even more suspect. For the life of me I cannot figure out why Ford is a Democrat and why he is allowed to speak on anyone's behalf. He has been back stabbing Barack and other Democrats with his "advice" for the election. Last time I saw him on MSNBC and he was offering his "advice" I thought, "Didn't he lose his election. What in the hell does he know about winning a statewide race, anywhere." He is a duplicitous snake who always declared his neutrality during the primary but never hesitated to slip a knife into "his good friend" Barack's back.

GreenLadyHere · 1 year ago

Hope: I even e-mailed Ford to ask him why he doesn't keep his "ADVICE" to himself and give Mr. Obama a call, e-mail, text message or some other form of "HOLLA" rather than blasting to the world. His response - CRICKETS********

metricpenny · 1 year ago

CPL wrote "I don’t know about any of you, but I don’t have jack in common with a SNAKE."

Which one's the SNAKE? The Dark Sith (loves the nickname) or Kos? LOL!!!

Acts Of Faith Blog · 1 year ago

Haha! I was feeling a little too comfy in my bed this morning so I just streamed it live and I can say I was QUITE disappointed with this exchange. I just posted a diary on kos criticizing this keynote and actually how they've planned this entire conference. I am NOT impressed.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/7/18/165935/...

I also posted to my blog my comments during this love-fest.
http://actsoffaithinloveandlife.blogspot.com/

Miranda · 1 year ago

"Dark Sith"..........ROFLMAO........

Lilah · 1 year ago

Amazing how he manages to talk about Snowflake as if she's the love of his life when it's been rumored that he's cheating on her.

CPL · 1 year ago

Already? Dang...and he's only been married three months. He tried to hide that big, fat wedding ring on his finger, and I was wondering why.

99 Percent Sure · 1 year ago

Isn't Dark Sith's (love that name) mother white?

Bruce Dixon · 1 year ago

No, but he once claimed that his grandmother, who was educated and taught in segregated black schools, was white, in a ploy to look more like the new-age Obamaesque figure he thought would get him more votes.

msmartin · 1 year ago

Bruce I hadn't see this comment when I posted a response above about him. I saw a blog post on this. There was an aunt who is an attorney somewhere in New York that wouldn't go along with the story.

I think he just desires to be white, or as close to it as he can get. I imagine he married white to get the lineage of his descendants closer to white.

Sepia · 1 year ago

I guess he doesn't realize that genetics are a mutha and he could end up having a "throw back baby".

CPL · 1 year ago

We are 100% sure Dorothy Ford is a sista. Which explains why she's harping for Harold and Snowflake to produce some grandkids.

Funny thing about that gene pool, though; those kids may come out looking like Wesley Snipes. LOL

msmartin · 1 year ago

Lawd, that would serve his ass right.

rikyrah · 1 year ago

but, not the baby, ms. martin.

I only shudder to think how such a child would be treated by parents who don't want to be Black in the first place.

don't wish that on the baby. cause Lord knows what would happen if there's only one ' throwback' baby amongst a brood of ' what are yous?'

I only say this because I thought of she same prospect for a certain Hollywood actress and her husband, who both run from their ' side of color' as hard as they can. I was thinking, ' well, you never know with genetics', then realized that the cosmic ' joke''s brunt would be placed upon the child, who is innocent.

so, let him have his light-bright-get-rid-of-that-BLACK baby.

bison1 · 1 year ago

Really! He just married!

tyler · 1 year ago

CPL, wish you could have cornered dark sith and nailed his butt to the wall for his lies.

recusancy · 1 year ago

Markos isn't a very good debater anyway. Even when he's doing well it comes out whiny and smug.

Sucks that you couldn't get to the mic in time.

blksista · 1 year ago

He probably saw girlfriend coming to tear a new one on him and Dark Sith.

This 'pulling a Pelosi' number sucks big. I hate that stuff. In a summit like this, there should be no quarter given. They need to get a taste of why we reject the DLC.

I loved it when she said that Dark Sith was looking to see if there were any black people. Yes...because we will report that stuff...

CPL · 1 year ago

We are getting ready to grill Ms. Pelosi, too - but I think Kos will protect her like he did the Dark Sith. Too many people want to get in her ass about taking impeachment off the table.

blksista · 1 year ago

If he doesn't protect her, might he be accused of sexism? Letting Ford off, but getting her tail singed?

Hey, keep us informed yall. Because DK won't say nothing about this travesty-in-the making.

99 Percent Sure · 1 year ago

Pelosi deserves censure - and tell her for me that she's a lousy, duplicitous representative of the people for repeatedly saying one thing and doing another and snatching defeat from the jaws of victory on every piece of legislation that Dim Son wants is the reason that only 8-9% of the electorate thinks the Congress critters are doing a good job.

Also tell her that taking impeachment off the table a day after the 2006 elections tells us that she and the rest of the Dems are in cahoots with Shrub's and Darth Cheney's criminal empire.

Tell her that, if California voters have anything to say about it, she'll be facing a petition with at least 12K voters' signatures calling for her censure just as we did Feinstein.

Watch her bat her false eyelashed orbs and stretch her overly glossed lips wide after you tell her all that.

bkstunner · 1 year ago

Hahaha, Kevin Powell has no chance sadly...

With 8 weeks to go, Powell has 19k on hand, and his Chappelle fundraiser, which had so much promise, was a fiasco. Hopefully 2010 will provide a more viable candidate (or Powell will start earlier)

CPL · 1 year ago

I wouldn't count out Kevin Powell if I were you. When Ed Towns' district finds out he's taking fundraising money from ReThugs, a good deal of his district may not like him doing that, because it's signaling he's going ReThug in his voting record, when they thought they had a progressive in office.

Francis L. Holland · 1 year ago

So you hugged Kos, who admits that he spent up to two years "interviewing" with the CIA between 2001 and 2003, the SAME TIME he was starting DailyKos! That's a LONG "interview" and it's something that I would like to know more about. But few people seem to think this "progressive's" relationship with the Central Intelligence Agency is worth pursuing.

To me, it's as incongruent and shocking as would be a convicted serial pedophile working at a daycare clinic, while insisting that his pedophile history was not relevant to his daycare responsibilities.

There might be a good reason why the mainstream media doesn't pick it up: they don't "out" CIA agents.

http://truth-about-kos.blogspot.com

CPL · 1 year ago

Francis, at no time did I initiate any forms of affection between myself and Markos. He hugged me first. I think he saw I was pissed and was trying to calm me down; not to mention keep me from getting into Harold's ass about his lies.

Someone already mentioned Kos may be playing both ends of the fence and I suspect they may be right.

99 Percent Sure · 1 year ago

I've been posting at Daily Kos for 3 years now, and I intend to continue to do so; however, I don't agree with everything Markos does or posts. I was never more disgusted with him than when he posted that he had planned to donate the maximum 2300 bucks to Obama but, after his vote on FISA, he [Markos] decided to donate to Darcy Burns instead. Now Burns is a blue candidate who was very recently burned out of her home so I saw nothing wrong with his choosing to make his donation to her instead.

But I, along with many other Kossacks, took issue with him taking pains to publicly point out the specifics as to why he wasn't donating to Obama, particularly when this was right around the time that Obama had announced he wasn't participating in Public Financing.

When it comes down to it, it could very well be that Markos is just as crafty in playing both ends against the middle as corporate media pundits are, as I've seen other diaries of his that haven't been positively for Obama.

This merely confirms my belief that there ain't no such thing as a 'liberal,' whether "caucasian" (MM is Salvadoran) or otherwise.

Markos is no attack dog.

You got that right, TruthSeeker.

Sepia · 1 year ago

I think he's "Liberal For Pay".

blksista · 1 year ago

This also reminds of the distrust many feminists still have about Gloria Steinem.

She worked for the CIA back in the day, way before she was conscious about sexism.

The feminist collective Redstockings exposed her ass in the Seventies and nearly all books and articles stemming from this exposure are gathering dust in used bookstores.

But I remember...

blksista · 1 year ago

I see that too, though I continue to post at DK as time permits. That being said, I have seen so many 'purges' of that site of people who don't agree with Kos or his blogger staff, it no longer makes me wonder.

I am, however, glad that Armando ain't there no more. He's turned into a Hillpatine creature.

CraigHickman · 1 year ago

I've had an commentary face-off with him over his purse-strings announcement and ever since then, I've been attacked for many of my comments that have nothing to do with that face-off.

Now I'm hooked. I enjoy a challenge. ;)

CraigHickman · 1 year ago

That he hadn't donated up till that point blew my mind.

Still does.

Can't say I trust the man.

gaiilonfong · 1 year ago

GREAT POST.
I was there and you are spot on. Snake is right!

rikyrah · 1 year ago

CPL,

thanks for trying.

i know he ran like the punk ass he is.

love the from the field reports

Admiral_Komack · 1 year ago

WARNING: Off-topic

McCain Leaks Details Of Obama's Iraq Trip

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/18/mccain...

Town · 1 year ago

Well if ya can't beat him, just plant the seeds of assassination. Hillary did!

GreenLadyHere · 1 year ago

Admiral: And this was deemed to be a MAJOR SECURITY BREACH!! Now WHO and HOW are "mcancient's" hands gonna be slapped?? Or who's gonna kick that A$$???

99 Percent Sure · 1 year ago

Senator McCentury....

99 Percent Sure · 1 year ago

As the late Flip Wilson's preacher said in Uptown Saturday Night

Loose lips sink ships.

That would be McCentury's ship that's going bubble-a, bubble-a, bubble-a.

lamh32 · 1 year ago

I'm new to Dkos, but I became hip to Markos game pretty early. The first time I saw him was on Bill Maher's show, and he just came off as so smug. When he posted his rant against Obama's FISA vote, but didn't forget to plug his new book, and commentors were saying that he was wrong for essentially trying to blackmail Obama to do his "progressive" biddings, he actually wrote another diary where he told people who don't agree with him "fuck you". I'm sorry, I found that extremely disrepectful to the dkos community.

Anyway, my grandmother always said watch out for those people with those "shifty eyes" and Kos and H Ford both fit that bill

99 Percent Sure · 1 year ago

Hey, politics is a dirty business.

What I posted was that they didn't buy Obama off the slave auction block just because they voted for him and made donations to his campaign. I told them that I thought that slavery was over. I got maybe 1 or 2 recs and a nasty reply from another commenter.

Admiral_Komack · 1 year ago

GreenLadyHere:

McCain will get a pass from the media...again.

Of course if Obama had leaked details of McCain's Iraq trip...Obama would be seen as emboldening terrorists...which would disqualify him from becoming President.

99 Percent Sure · 1 year ago

Olbermann called him out on it, and Richard Wolfe said that the media had been very careful as to the schedule.

He tried but, like everything else, he messed that up too. As someone posted on Balloon Juice:

The candidate who “knows how to win wars” doesn’t seem to know that running your mouth about movements is a sure-fire way to lose. No wonder he got shot down: he probably told every hooker in the Philippine Islands exactly when and where he’d be heroically dropping bombs.

Eh hee hee hee....

Jay · 1 year ago

OMG! That was the funniest post I've read all week...I just spit out my drink. LMAO!

CraigHickman · 1 year ago

Brilliant.

TruthSeeker · 1 year ago

Hilarious. And then there was the woman in his town hall who pointed out that they lost that war.

GreenLadyHere · 1 year ago

Admiral: ABSOLUTELY!! And a treason trial would have started by now!!!! :>)

msmartin · 1 year ago

CNN is profiling the Obamas and the McCains. It's funny hearing that Cindy couldn't cope with John MCain being in Washington so she took pills. Barack lived in Washington and Michelle in Chicago - without the drugs.

They also interviewed a friend of Cindy's who said that after her mother asked if something was wrong she never took another pill. Bullshit - she never took another pill after that federal investigation.

bison1 · 1 year ago

The tone of the narrative rreally favored Cindy.

msmartin · 1 year ago

Yes it did. Of course they have nothing negative to report about Michelle so they threw in the "she speaks her mind" and her Princeton paper about feeling like an outsider.

The negative reporting surrounding the paper blows my mind. She's somehow supposed to be wrong for saying she felt like an outsider when some 20 plus years later, they're still still trying to make the Obamas seem like outsiders. Oh the fucking irony.

Town · 1 year ago

How dare she feel like an outsider, when her roommate only tried her darndest to get away from her because she's black!

TRW · 1 year ago

LMAO. Look, I don't have anything against Cindy. She obviously has done a lot of good in her life with her work as a special education teacher, and her humanitarian work with disaster relief. But, but, if people are going to complain about "fluff" pieces on the Obamas, then I call bull about that piece of "fluff" on Cindy McCain. Not only was she stealing meds from her own organization, but the doctor who was writing fake prescriptions for her lost his license, and the McCain campaign tried to get the whistleblower charged with extortion after he filed a wrongful termination claim against Cindy.

So yeah, maybe her Mama expressing concern did cause her to have a change of heart about her illegal drug use, but that most certainly wasn't the only thing to this story.

GreenLadyHere · 1 year ago

msmartin: I read somewhere else that Anderson Cooper is the REAL PROFITER! It was stated that he wrote a book following his embedded experience in Iraq(?). I'll try to track it down. Guess he's giving a few "BREAD" crumbs to the station.
YEP! on "after the federal investigation". Noticed that they didn't give as many audio or visual clips of Cindy. They could have shown her riding a horse - after a "bull"! :>)

adriana01 · 1 year ago

What's wrong w/ Ford?

He lost me when he married that fashion designer... of all the beautiful black women in Tennessee... he chose her boney butt.

The Bag of Health and Politics · 1 year ago

Finding common ground wins elections; holding grudges and living in the past doesn't. It's as simple as that.

99 Percent Sure · 1 year ago

BHP, obviously you're aware that Obama ascribes to the same political axiom:

What is the best strategy for building majority support for a progressive agenda, and for reversing the rightward drift of this country?

One important part of that strategy - and on this I think we agree - is for progressives within the Democratic Party to describe our core values (e.g. racial justice, civil liberties, opportunity for the many, and not just the few) in clear, unambiguous terms.

A second part of that strategy - and again, I think we agree here - is to stake out clear positions on issues that put those values into action (e.g. the need for universal health care), and to stand up for those values when they are under assault (e.g. opposition to the Patriot Act).

But the third part of this part of the equation – and on this we may disagree – must be to gain converts to our positions. My job, as a candidate for the U.S. Senate, isn’t to scold people for their lack of ideological purity. It’s to persuade as many people as I can, across the ideological spectrum, that my vision of the future is compatible with their values, and can make their lives a little bit better. Thus, while I may favor common-sense gun control laws, that doesn’t keep me from reaching out to NRA members who are worried about their lack of health insurance. I favor affirmative action, but I’m still going after the votes of white union members who oppose affirmative action, because I think I can convince them that it’s Bush’s economic agenda, and not affirmative action, that is eroding their job security and stagnating their wages. And while I may object to the misogyny and materialism of much of rap culture, I’m still going to spend the time reaching out to a hip-hop generation in search of a future.

In other words, I believe that politics in any democracy is a game of addition, not subtraction. And I believe deeply enough in the decency of the American people to think that progressives can build a winning majority in this country, so long as we’re not afraid to speak the truth, and so long as we don’t write off big chunks of the electorate just because they don’t agree with us on every issue.

CPL · 1 year ago

The "finding common ground" only works when both sides put their cards on the table. We didn't see that yesterday. In fact, the whole "debate" was nothing more than a lovefest between Markos and Harold. For someone who eviscerated Obama's changing on FISA, not to mention raking Harold Ford over the coals for being anti-gay, Markos has sure changed his tune regarding the Dark Sith.

You get rid of grudges when apologizies, restitution and repentence are on the table. Harold Ford brought none of that yesterday - he and Markos are pay for play on both sides of the fence, where there is opportunity to advance their own self-serving agendas.

One is a former ReThug and the other aspires to be a ReThug, under the cover of looking like a Democrat. When it comes to the real deal, both are suspect.

msmartin · 1 year ago

Well said. I'd like to add that focusing in your opponent in a negative manner will lose it too.

Lily · 1 year ago

I can always count on you to break it down in understandable terms! LOL

Slave Revolt · 1 year ago

In my view you should have thrown a few punches Ford's way--this would have sealed your fame going forward. More, as this would have made national corporate news headlines, you could have used the situation as a way to highlight the mendacity of the DLC republicrats.

Sure, you would have spent a few nights in jail--which would have been good fodder for the blog. King spent time in jail and he developed a great essay from the situation.

Indeed, I am from the Pather school of political activism. Would it be too much for these 'lefty' bloggers to invite a former Panther? The best they could do is invite Harold Ford, Jr. Jeez.

CPL · 1 year ago

And Ford was supposed to provide the African-American perspective on things.

Yeah, Right.

I called bullshyt on that, too. And last night, we got in the grill of homegirl who organized this conference and almost had her in tears, especially holding this conference in a heavily Latino population area and even fewer Latinos were there than African-Americans.

They said they don't like the word "diversity". When pressed for an answer, they didn't have one, and we called bullshyt on that, too. There were eight Black bloggers in the lobby of the Hilton, having our own confab, and a white guy came over because he wanted to see what we were discussing.

They ALL got more than they bargained for and probably won't try that again. LOL

Honey01 · 1 year ago

I have'nt been on DailyK's website much lately unless someone here links to it since the whole FISA thing.

Francis, they are alot illuminating points in your article. However, the funniest thing I learned was he went on a "honeymoon". No offense, but I always just assumed otherwise...

Makes you wonder too regarding his stance on against all gays in the military. The phrase that comes to mind, "doth thy protest too much".

CPL · 1 year ago

I don't know, Francis; they allowed Robert Novak to out Valerie Plame. Markos is probably lower on the food chain than she was.

TruthSeeker · 1 year ago

I never saw that MTP debate, but when I heard Markos kicked his butt, I was skeptical. Markos is no attack dog.

Voice and stature have a lot to do with effective debate.

GreenLadyHere · 1 year ago

Harold Ford Heckled at Netroots Conference:
www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/18/harold-ford-h...

GreenLadyHere · 1 year ago

Netroots tries to label FAUX SPEWS as "Opinion Media".

www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/17/netroots-try-...

At least they've put it out there, even if they're not successful!

msmartin · 1 year ago

It's funny how the federal investigation surrounding Cindy McCain is mentioned there are never any details provided. Yet we all know if it were either one of the Obamas , when MSM finished there would be nothing left to question.

rikyrah · 1 year ago

ms. martin,

come on, now.

The Pill Poppin' Piece-On-The-Side is:
1. An Adulterer
2. An Embezzler
AND
3. A Junkie

If Michelle Obama was just ONE of these...just ONE.

We'd be hearing something about it everyday, and you know it.

You know it.

So, yeah, we know the deal and the double standard.

TruthSeeker · 1 year ago

OFF TOPIC,

Breaking news on CNN

Obama just arrived in Afghanistan...Kabul.

Bill Nye is a jerk. Of course flying saucers are real. Spoilsport.

Insomnia has it's benefits.

GreenLadyHere · 1 year ago

cpl: WOW!!! U R truly REPRESENTIN'!!! MAD PROPS to ya!! :>) :>)