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The GOP’s New Theme: Those Uppity Obamas

Started by baratunde aka jack turner · 1 year ago

It worked temporarily for Clinton and McCain so apparently Karl Rove is among those pushing the theme we’ll entitle: Those Uppity Obama Niggers Think They’re Better than You. Here from the Edmonton Sun:

For former Bush mastermind Karl Rove to portray Obama as a Gatsby-esque smoothie, as he did to a group of DC Republicans the [...]SHARETHIS.addEntry({ ... Continue reading »

44 comments

  • Big Man

    1 year ago

    Great post.

    A nigger can never had more than white man. If he does, something ain't right with the world.
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  • kenyaw

    1 year ago

    oh Big Man,
    you made me laugh out loud.
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  • Nardwilly

    1 year ago

    Please vist this site, and govern yourselves accordingly.

    http://abolishthenword.com/

    It is not poetic.
    it does not add meaning.
    It is offensive.
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  • CraigHickman

    1 year ago

    Here's the thing:

    We the people don't get to erase language.
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  • Nardwilly

    1 year ago

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  • P-niiice

    1 year ago

    The word nigger is not offensive to me at all anymore. I won't allow anyone to think they can manipulate my emotions by use of a word. The word has no power over me or my emotions.

    When you fail to be offended at the word, idiots have nothing else for you. That's their trump card. And they showed everyone else how ignorant they are. remove the power from the word, and they have nothing else.

    To get back on topic, this kind of thing (portraying a black man as an elitist) is so ridiculous as to HAVE to be true.
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  • Jay

    1 year ago

    Ok, I'm sure this has been said before...but how are you gonna have a funeral for the word "nigger" when you still have nigger behavior.

    The only way to abolish the n-word, is to abolish the behavior. If our brothers and sisters would wake up and realize the damage we're doing to ourselves nothing will change. We have to restore our self-respect, re-establish and re-define what is the black community…please believe it’s NOT the ghetto!

    Powerful site by the way...I've been a fan for awhile.
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  • Nardwilly

    1 year ago

    You are not alone. You live in a community. So glad you are above manipulation. But sometimes we must moderate our privileges and capabilities to benefit all. I suggest you consider those others that view the word differently. There are many that are not so much offended, but beat down by the word. It has a certain ability to minimize the user, not you perhaps but others less sophisticated.

    It still belongs to such phrases as N----- rich, and "I’m just a N-----. I am not offended personally, but I do not need that word to express anything about Black people. There are idiots in our community, which might come out of their idiocy, if we would abolish the word in our community.
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  • RonnieB

    1 year ago

    Chris Matthews on Hardball has repeated a theme that Barack Obama can’t appeal to working class whites but only the well-educated or African-Americans.

    Someone needs to ask Matthews how it is that Obama is too "elite" for working-class white people, yet not too "elite" for working-class Black people.

    Or how about this: if Barack appeals to well-educated elitists, then should we conclude that 90% of Black folk are well-educated elitists?
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  • GreenLadyHere

    1 year ago

    RonnieB: Soooo co-signing on this. In fact, I sent an e-mail to chris-no response! I've been watching him and he is "changing" to being a little too"un-supportive" of Mr. Obama of late. And he is waaay too repetitive on the "white working class" mantra WITHOUT have any FACTS!! Just carry-over billary mantra. I'm going to attempt another e-mail.
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  • kenyaw

    1 year ago

    RonnieB,
    Chris Matthews had a born and bred, democrat from West VA on Monday night, and that gentlemen said simply, “the white folks where I am from do not tend to think of black people as ELITE, least of all Barack Obama”. He also stated that on average the poor white people in WV think of black people as oppressed just like them. His main point was if Sen Obama can get the culture he can get the votes. Not like going to NASCAR and being a poser, but genuinely make them understand that he has an agenda that includes their needs.
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  • CraigHickman

    1 year ago

    If they listen, and hear, and see, they won't need Barack to do anything to make them understand other than what he's already doing:

    Telling his truth.
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  • Nardwilly

    1 year ago

    My experience at work informs me that a well educated Black from the Black working class, if open, can relate to working class whites in a way educated whites from an higher class can not. I have observed this pehomana in my career and my daughters. My daughter has working class sympathies, because her grandparents, aunts, uncles, and most of her cousins were working class folks.

    White elites we worked with tended to believe the workers were stupid and/or lazy. Because the workers were doing jobs our family members did or aspired to, we viewed them as smart and capable. They responded with genoricity and cooperation in SC, GA, TX, and NC. After hearing their stories, I understood many missed the opportunity of a fine and complete education based on circumstance not capability.

    If Michelle and Barack can exhibit openness and empathy, they may be able to reach these folks. It is important for the GOP to portray them as elite, Muslim, angry Black People, Affirmative Action succes stories, or anything else to keep the working class from listening. Affluent whites have been preventing working class whites from joining with Blacks and other oppressed since before the Civil War.

    We have an obligation to get the truth out.
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  • kenyaw

    1 year ago

    Nardwilly,
    I should read furthur before posting the previous comment. But your point is the same as the white gentleman from West VA. Very well said.

    kenya
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  • Nardwilly

    1 year ago

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  • msmartin

    1 year ago

    I think it was Jim Webb who said that whites in VA and AAs have more in common than they now.
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  • Nardwilly

    1 year ago

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  • glory

    1 year ago

    I thought the same thing, RonnieB. I find it hard to understand how goading people into fearing how black and hostile he and his wife are supposed to be can be used in tandem with trying to make whites mad because he supposedly thinks he's better than they are because he has nice stuff. As if the McCains don't have nice stuff.

    Chris Rock has this joke about how he, Jay-Z, Mary J. Blige, and Denzel Washington have to be the best at their respective crafts just to live in the same neighborhood as white people with mediocre wealth and positions. Offensive racial slurs aside, I think that what the first poster said has truth - I think there are still some white people who think: how dare black folks attempt to have as much as or more than whites! Then when these bigoted people see black folks with nice things and accomplishments, they have to downplay the achievement: "They could only afford that house because they got an unfairly low interest rate... She only got that job because of people trying to curry favor with her husband... They only have those degrees because of affirmative action... He's only in the running for this nomination because his blackness is a novelty..." It's pathetic, all this resentment.

    Off topic: I believe that refraining from the use of that word has nothing to do with trying (unsuccessfully) to strip white folks' power in using it and everything to do with not giving acceptance to a word and concept that was used to justify lynchings, redlining, discrimination, and other things that happened to our parents and ancestors.
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  • kenyaw

    1 year ago

    Glory,
    They did not need the word nigger or negro (black) or Niger (the river in west Afrikan) as a tool to oppress and destroy. They would have done it in silence if need be.
    Just because some ignorant people could not properly pronounce Niger (ia), to describe the people from that region, does not give them license to own the word or it's meaning... for the most part.
    Let us not give so much credence to the word that we give it more power than the hate that resided in the people who mis-pronounced it.
    I agree that it sounds harsh and should not be used often. But the brother up top was making a point.
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  • glory

    12 months ago

    Yes, he was making a point... but he didn't need to use that word to make it. Refraining from using the word does not give it any more power than if you use the word ad nauseum. In this country, it will always mean what it has always meant, no matter how many times people put it in a different context, claiming that they can change its power. The word wasn't necessary to oppress us but it has and will always carry the stain. So why use it? Why affirmatively make the decision to use it? I don't need to use it to keep from giving bigots the satisfaction of a flustered response to it when they use it. I can refrain from the use of the word and still brush racist attempts to use it to offend me off my shoulder like so much lint. When Michael Richards used it, it had no power - it was simply pitiful.

    But when we use it on each other, it is evidence of the power of the oppressors who gave us the word, which remains with us as so intertwined with our image of ourselves that African people are actually arguing for their right to use it and embrace it. Talk about power - talk about a mind job! Its continued use by us is the result of a combination of apathy, internalized hatred, and having bought into the lie that we can change its meaning. Yes, having a funeral for it was asinine. Yes, losing all sense when someone uses it on us is unnecessary and regards the word too personally. But if people really want to strip it of its power, not even bothering to use it would be the very best start.
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  • P-niiice

    1 year ago

    There's nothing wrong with refraining to use a word at all. My point is that if it is used, the whole world shouldn't come to a halt while we wait for a verdict from whatever black leader gets the call from CNN. The person who used it just branded themselves as a jackass. Don't encourage them further by giving them the exact reaction they were looking for.

    Through its use, it needs to become a way for idiots to label themselves rather than a way to rile up black people. We need to take the power (over us) out of the word, completely. Then it's use doesn't matter.
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  • bigassbelle

    1 year ago

    Rove’s comment translates in tactical terms as the weirdly implausible, “If we can’t portray him as an angry black man, what the hell — we’ll portray him as a privileged, elitist, white man.”

    I fear it's actually worse than that. Rove's comment planted in the mind of every white man the vision of a black Barack Obama at the country club with the beautiful white date.

    The dog whistles to the white boys are "country club" "beautiful date" and the phrase "holding a martini and a cigarette, leaning against the wall" which implies a sort of cool generally attributed by white men to their black counterparts.

    I don't think I've said this lately, so I'll just throw in here that I detest, despise, abhor, am sickened by Karl Rove. There fires in hell hot enough to give him the roasting he deserves.
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  • RonnieB

    1 year ago

    Yep. The idea is basically to convey to Joe NASCAR: eh, this Obama boy thinks he's better'n you.

    I mean, doesn't that appeal to the very idea of American Apartheid? That our society would never tolerate Black folk being "better than" white folk?
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  • CraigHickman

    1 year ago

    Karl Rove said it. So did Bill Clinton. Said it right in West Virginia in fact.
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  • pjamma

    1 year ago

    Funny, I didn't think of his date as white. I figured his beautiful date was black.
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  • Town

    1 year ago

    Karl Rove using "beautiful date" isn't meant to conjure up an image of a black woman. Remember, people are running around saying Michelle is too masculine looking (huh) or has a lantern jaw or just plain ugly. Rove saying "beautiful date at the country club" is meant to conjure up images of Buffy and Muffy with their blonde hair. In other words, a Cindy McCain type. Black women at the country club would be the servers and the cooks.
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  • pjamma

    1 year ago

    Except I am a black woman that belongs to a yacht club as do other black women I know and have been to plenty of country club parties. So I don't see how it should be automatically assumed that his date is blonde. Maybe it is your perception that Black women at the country club would be servers and cooks which is ummm sad.

    That is not to say I in any way defend what Rove said. He is an idiot.
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  • bigassbelle

    1 year ago

    pjamma ~ that was not my intention at all. not in any way.
    i am speaking to what the white boys heard with that
    dogwhistle.

    it's just like what they did with harold ford, jr. . . . OF COURSE
    "beautiful date at the country club" does not, in the real
    world we live in, imply that the date is white.

    my point was that this was a coded message to a particular
    group of people and i am convinced it has less to do with
    depicting obama as elitist than it does with depicting him
    as infringing upon the white man's territory.

    just my opinion, honed from years spent around these
    country redneck motherfuckers.

    just for the record, i think michelle obama is one of the most
    elegant, lovely women i've ever seen. normal people would
    not make the assumption about color here.

    the whistle is not going out to normal people.
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  • pjamma

    1 year ago

    I hear ya.

    Well thankfully those white boys or anyone who heard the whistle were not voting for Obama in the first place so Rove message wasn't a very effective one. And I will be smiling ear to ear when the country club whisperer and his followers are faced with a new kind of leader.
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  • bigassbelle

    1 year ago

    me too, i can't wait.
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  • rikyrah

    1 year ago

    bigassbelle,

    you're not the only one who thought like this. That he wasn't there MARRIED. And, with Snowflake. Undermine his marriage AND paint him as an elitist. Totally disregarding Michelle.
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  • kenyaw

    1 year ago

    bigassbelle,
    Oh you just better stop with the code cracking. It darn sure made me think of a white date not necessarily Mrs. O in that country club.
    You are good girl.
    Oh and to be sure, soon enough a picture of Sen Obama's "long time" white ex-girlfriend will surface close to October. Watch and see!
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  • CraigHickman

    1 year ago

    But will she tell a story?
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  • msmartin

    1 year ago

    I've been wondering about that.
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  • msmartin

    1 year ago

    I wonder if she's Republican?
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  • msmartin

    1 year ago

    The picture may be enough, a lot of people don't know about her.
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  • bigassbelle

    1 year ago

    but Kenyaw ~ the rumors on that have already started to fly . . . the actress, what's her name? Scarlett Johansen? their "email relationship" has been news on even the huffington post. revolting.
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  • GreenLadyHere

    1 year ago

    He stopped that mess 2 weeks back: There was ONE/1 e-mail that that wench sent to one of his aides. The aide sent it to Mr. Obama-cause that wench doesn't have his direct e-mail address. Mr. Obama stated that he thanked her for her support - like he thanks anyone else.
    Among other things, I wonder how much she was paid to create that 'BIT OF DRAMA' Additionally, it was an INSULT to Mrs. Obama! But, that "DRAMA QUEEN" didn't seem to mind! OUTRAGEOUS!!!
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  • Big Man

    1 year ago

    Sorry my use of the word nigger bothered so many folks.

    But, I use that world regularly in my personal life and on my blog. I try to moderate my usage around folks who aren't comfortable with it, but I'm not attending the word's funeral..

    However, I don't believe there is such a thing as "nigger behavior." That's shows an amazing amount of self-hate. Trifling behavior has no skin color and calling something "nigger behavior" or saying someone is behaving like a "nigger" is just buying into the white man's game.

    The way I see it, all black people are niggers and all niggers are black people. The word nigger was just a slur that white folks created to show their distaste for us.
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  • P-niiice

    1 year ago

    I'm cool with it coming from a brother. I just don't let 'others' use it as a weapon against me, and I wish more of us felt that way.
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  • glory

    12 months ago

    Ain't no thing, Big Man. I recognize that it's just a word too. But what disappoints me is that when someone suggests that we refrain from using it, like Nardwilly did, people want to argue over why WE SHOULD use it. On some level that's profoundly disturbing. When others use it, I wish they didn't, but I usually don't say anything because they often don't mean any disrespect - like when you used it at first. It's when people start saying that's what we actually ARE or using stereotypes of us to justify its appropriateness like "nigger behavior," that I have to say my peace.
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  • bigassbelle

    1 year ago

    However, I don't believe there is such a thing as "nigger behavior."

    That's interesting, because when I hear the word from white people and call them on it, I almost always get one of two responses:

    (1) I have LOTS of friends who are black and they don't mind;
    (2) "Nigger don't mean just blacks, you can be a white nigger if you're trashy."

    I would never say that word, ever, ever, ever. The potential for hurt is too great and once said, it can't be taken back.

    I watched my grandkids' hurt response to an old buzzard at my health club pool who called them "little niggers." I could have killed him.
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  • Nardwilly

    1 year ago

    BigMan,

    We all are responsible for how others respond to our words. If our use creates hurt for others we need to stop.

    "I watched my grandkids' hurt response to an old buzzard at my health club pool who called them "little niggers." I could have killed him."

    This idea of white n----- I do not understand. They are usually called white trash.
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  • bigassbelle

    1 year ago

    Narwilly ~ the idea of "white niggers" is one that's proffered by racists caught in the act of being bigoted assholes. Just for the record, my grandkids are black.
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