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I need for somebody to shut Ferraro down on national television. I would gladly pay to see that, instead of everyone handling her with kid gloves.
My Tribe, Pechanga of Temecula CA has eliminated 25% of their tribe in violation of the Indian Civil Rights Act. Nobody cares much about civil rights anymore...
Anyway - welcome to this blog. What is the link to yours? I always look for opportunities to learn about other cultures.
Regarding the Cherokee Freedmen issue, Barack has said:
"Discrimination anywhere is intolerable, but the Cherokee are dealing with this issue in both tribal and federal courts. As it stands, the rights of the Cherokee Freedmen are not being abrogated because there is an injunction in place that ensures the Freedman's rights to programs during the pendency of the litigation. I do not support efforts to undermine these legal processes and impose a congressional solution. Tribes have a right to be self governing and we need to respect that, even if we disagree, which I do in this case. We must have restraint in asserting federal power in such circumstances."
Personally, I'd like to see government-mandated effort to maintain Freedmen citizenship rights. At the same time, it would seem that--for now--the courts may be the best forum to decide the issues. The CBC can't even bring themselves to come out uniformly in support of Barack's candidacy, so I can't fathom why anyone would want them dealing with tribal issues. Same goes for the current Congress.
Thanks for that quote.
Hillary follows Ferraro's lead. I highlighted some interesting parts:
"It's been deeply offensive to millions of women," Clinton said. "I believe this campaign has been a groundbreaker in a lot of ways. But it certainly has been challenging given some of the attitudes in the press, and I regret that, because I think it's been really not worthy of the seriousness of the campaign and the historical nature of the two candidacies we have here."
Later, when asked if she thinks this campaign has been racist, she says she does not. And she circles back to the sexism. "The manifestation of some of the sexism that has gone on in this campaign is somehow more respectable, or at least more accepted, and . . . there should be equal rejection of the sexism and the racism when it raises its ugly head," she said. "It does seem as though the press at least is not as bothered by the incredible vitriol that has been engendered by the comments by people who are nothing but misogynists."
Yep. She calling people misogynists. Note, she won't say who these people are. She doesn't really give any examples. She just shouts sexism, and let's her supporters guess who's to blame.
People aren't saying the race is over because they're sexist. They're saying it's over because of MATH.
She's not the first candidate to face pressure to drop out when the math didn't add up. And I find it disgusting that she'd use victimhood as a shield.
Obama played by the rules. He had a better strategy, a more inclusive message and far superior organization. There's no sexism there.
First Ferraro, now Hillary. This looks like a deliberate attempt to stir emotions amongst her supporters, knowing that they're gonna look for someone to blame. And we already know who the scapegoat's gonna be. It's wreckless.
thank you, barack obama, for taking it to the res.
met at the doors of my warehouse this morning with the Barack Obama joke of the day: He may not be able to fix American, but he sure will be able to ni**er rig it.
god help us all. i want to hurt someone.
What's with the upside down flag?
(and yeah, I know what it means)
The Obamas sit down with Robin Roberts
I must say, I love the way they love each other. So inspiring...
Key Clinton Constituencies Moving Toward Obama
Obama is now competitive among women, whites, Hispanics, and the less educated
A reader writes:
The wife and I were talking about this last week. She believes that Hillary Clinton really is crazy, and is living in a state of denial, and has no plans for the future beyond the election. I tend towards the view that she is pretending to be crazy, as a way to try to scare others into giving her what she wants.
Thoughts?
A little of both, perhaps. When it comes to Mrs Clinton, one under-estimated factor is the nature of her ambition. As her life has progressed from those salad days at Wellesley, her own long march through the institutions has been fraught with awful moral compromise. In this campaign alone, the pacts she has made with various devils to keep ahead of the pretender to her throne have been particularly brutal. Somewhere in her head, she justifies all the principles she has trashed over the years, all the enemies she has allied with, all the racists she has won over, all the abused women she has smeared ... on the grounds that if she becomes president, the good she can do will outweigh it all. These are the sacrifices all people who seek power for the good must undergo, she tells herself. To have it all taken away from her at the last minute - by someone who hasn't made as many compromises - is therefore unimaginably cruel. She cannot accept it - because her life's work is at stake. So she struggles on. Her private life, her marriage, is fused with her public life. So she has nowhere else to go. Which is why she stays. This is all there is for her.
Is that crazy? I don't know. But it is immeasurably sad. Not sad enough for pity. She did this all herself. But sad nonetheless.
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Ted Kennedy has a brain tumor. How sad.
Profound analysis of Hillary Clinton and her fight. It reall is all she has.
Sad.
Great Analysis, I co-sign. It explains her desperation. She refuses to accept truth because really its that hard. She thought this was hers to lose and she lost.
Craig and BPM,
I heard about it, how sad. I will keep him in my prayers.
The pic of the old Native American lady is the cutest. I saw it yesterday. There is also a cute one of a young girl all dressed up in her traditional garb with this thing (I dont know what it is called mabye Angela or O Pechanga could help) but it was really pretty and it had "First Americans for Obama" on it.
I love seeing elderly people and children on the campaign trail, it gets me emotional for some reason. There is this video of an old black lady in SC and she is the best. I also remember another one from SC who was in her 100s and she had an Obama button on her hat and an Obama T-Shirt. There is a picture of a youg white boy in Oregon who was painted with hopeon his chest and in red, white and blue. People cannot deny the amount of spirit that people have when it comes to Obama, they just cannot. You have children excited about him!! People who compare him to Dukakis or say that he is weak are hataz plain and simple.
<b... CBC isn't uniformly in agreement, but much more than a simple majority are. Sen. Obama, is getting some good donations for Chad Smith, chairmen of the Cherokee. And that's fine. He's entitled to support what he wants. I certainly don't think the Cherokee should benefit from the public trust right now, until they meet their treaty requirements.
They certainly can do that in one minute.
Indian Country is being harmed by actions of tribes like Pechanga and the Cherokee, as well as many others in California, Picayune Rancheria, who disenrolled half the tribe so that they can have a bigger per capita check.
Come learn more at my blog.
Oh for crying out loud.
This raises my desire to call down a fiery truth goddess to "work with" Ms. Hillary so that she is less of an insult to humanity.
Of course I have never ever been able to call down said goddess (ooooh, if I could, ooooh) and don't even know if such a being exists. My desire to call on her now and ask her to go to Ms. Hillary remains however.
This is what I am reduced to right now.
WHEN CAN PEOPLE REALLY LET GO WITH THE ANALYSES being held back now? WHEN? argh! (I do support being strategic about this. I really seriously truly and sincerely do. I'm just frustrated beyond words to see this heinous deceptive nasty-ness and feel like chewing off my arm when I see shit like this)
http://www.zimbio.com/Prince+Frederick+von+Anhalt/articles/44/FAKE+Prince+Frederic+von+Anhalt+Calls+Michelle