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Re: Tuesday Open Thread: Hi Everybody

Ms.Martin — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 20:15:00 -0000

D-

I wish he could throw you under the bus.

Re: Tuesday Open Thread: Hi Everybody

D. — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 20:12:00 -0000

I only wonder who-after his pastor and grandmother-Obama has left to throw under the bus.

Has Obama, by default, disowned the black community, since he made the two inseperable?

And I hear Wright has a book coming out in October...

Re: Tuesday Open Thread: Hi Everybody

GoldenAh — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 19:20:00 -0000

The issue with Rev. Wright may be a distraction: long or short term. If he wants to have a forum, be it a book, radio or TV program, so be it. The more he speaks - he becomes an individual separate from Obama.

The MSM is deliberately conflating the two men. Then again the MSM believes black people in America (or worldwide) are fiendish co-conspirators and a monolith.

Hah. If only....

Link here: Dukasis offers Obama advice on how to win the GE. He expects him to get the Dem. nom.

At this point that is all that matters: close out the Dem. nom. and onto the GE.

Re: Tuesday Open Thread: Hi Everybody

rikyrah — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:35:00 -0000

If Hillary is behind this, it could be her trying to regain the black vote.

She might be behind that, but it's not going to happen.

Wright suggested that the opposition to his comments were not about him but an attack against the black church. Therefore, the implication is that if Barack responds against him, Barack is attacking the black church. It is vitally important for black church leaders come out and support Barack's position.

He clowned; if the NPC was the ONLY point of reference with regards to Wright, it would be one thing. But, it's not. At all. And that's why, at least, THIS Black woman is pissed, because it had to be ON PURPOSE.

Re: Tuesday Open Thread: Hi Everybody

rikyrah — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:32:00 -0000

Some Black folks have made the list so far:

The 50 most influential US political pundits

Re: Tuesday Open Thread: Hi Everybody

Craig Hickman — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 15:56:00 -0000

Obama won't take money from lobbyists. That means the most powerful lobbyists in US government are working to derail his campaign because they won't be able to curry favor from an Obama administration.

Hillary Rodham Nixon takes more money from lobbyists than any candidate who ran for president this cycle.

Speaking truth to power.

Re: Tuesday Open Thread: Hi Everybody

TruthSeeker — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 15:28:00 -0000

You know, I felt that after PA, this stretch is the most dangerous for Obama.
After PA, it became apparent to everyone there was no possibility of Hillary catching up in delegates. The Presidency is slipping from her grasp and she will be forced to take more extreme measures to get the nomination. Her surrogates try to stall superdelegates from making their choices so as to buy time for Hillary to plot and scheme. Each time she loses they go on TV and start fast-talking about how we should let all the states vote.

The Obama campaign has got to be vigilant! If he thinks Bill & Hillary are going to give up power and wealth that easily, he's sadly mistaken. If Barack thinks he won't have to fight them, he better wake up!

Obama has to be more ruthless in protecting himself now. He's got to figure out a way to do it on the down low.

Re: Tuesday Open Thread: Hi Everybody

Ms.Martin — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 15:13:00 -0000

Truthseeker

I agree and hope that they come out and support him.

There are two really good stories at the Root.com about Wright and how he was wrong and the possibility that he is working with someone else to sabotage Barack's campaign.

Re: Tuesday Open Thread: Hi Everybody

Sepia — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 15:11:00 -0000

A reporter asked Obama how Michelle felt when she saw the footage. He said she was angered.

Re: Tuesday Open Thread: Hi Everybody

TruthSeeker — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 15:06:00 -0000

If Hillary is behind this, it could be her trying to regain the black vote.

Wright suggested that the opposition to his comments were not about him but an attack against the black church. Therefore, the implication is that if Barack responds against him, Barack is attacking the black church. It is vitally important for black church leaders come out and support Barack's position.

Re: Tuesday Open Thread: Hi Everybody

Ms.Martin — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:58:00 -0000

Craig Hickman

I'd like to hear from Michelle too. I wish they had done that press conference together.

Re: Tuesday Open Thread: Hi Everybody

Anonymous — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:55:00 -0000

d,

I think the MSM will swoon and cover for Obama like they did after his Philly speech.

Supporters and the MSM will claim to be just as taken in as Obama was, and now 'understand.'

Wright believes everything he says, and apologized for none of it.

He also said that Obama is just a 'politician' who is saying what he needs to say to get elected.

That's why Obama is denouncing him now. Purely political, desperate move.

Re: Tuesday Open Thread: Hi Everybody

Ms.Martin — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:55:00 -0000

Reports are (from Tamarin of MSNBC)that folks from Trinity are responding that the Wright we all saw yesterday is not the right they knew either.

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Ms.Martin — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:52:00 -0000

Anon

Fucue!

Craig, Rikyrah, Truth

I hope Trinity will still support Barack.

Re: Tuesday Open Thread: Hi Everybody

D. — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:50:00 -0000

NC will be a sympathy vote. After that, the fall begins.

Re: Tuesday Open Thread: Hi Everybody

Anonymous — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:48:00 -0000

Obama did this because Wright was sinking his campaign.

He may also be hurt personally, but only because Wright said Obama was just another politician who was saying what he had to say to get elected.

That's right. Wright simply echoed and reinforced all of the previous comments he has made, and Obama is the last man to realize just how toxic he is.

And this man wants to negotiate with Ahmajenidad, et al.

Oops. "The man I met with is not the man who today nuked Isreal."

Sad. Too little. Too late.

Re: Tuesday Open Thread: Hi Everybody

Craig Hickman — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:47:00 -0000

If Rev. Wright responds, he will be taking a huge risk with his own legacy.

If this turns into a I must have the last word verbal fiasco, Wright will lose.

Unless someone decides to exploit Wright's anger and offers him something he wants in order to sabotage Obama with direct and explicit political attacks.

Obama took a risk. He must know this can come back on him.

That's why I'd love to hear from Michelle.

If Obama will benefit from any "sympathy votes" it will happen next Tuesday.

Re: Tuesday Open Thread: Hi Everybody

rikyrah — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:45:00 -0000

He also thinks the separation will hurt Barack with black folks. Little does he know, we don't like it when folks show their ass in public.

I agree.

IF he had done this when it initially came out, Black folk would have come down hard on Obama.

But, after what Wright did, we understand. Those that don't, got mad at Obama 'way back when' anyways.

Re: Tuesday Open Thread: Hi Everybody

Ms.Martin — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:45:00 -0000

I agree with SBO said about Wright caricaturing himself.

And it is sad, so many people spoke up on his behalf and he was fine until the Press Club appearance.

What a shame.

Re: Tuesday Open Thread: Hi Everybody

D. — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:43:00 -0000

Ms. Martin,
Doubt it. Wright already put the target on Obama by saying he'd "come after" him if he becomes president.

I think history will record Jeremiah Wright as the person who single-handedly killed Obama's campaign. And God help the next African American that decides to run.

Re: Tuesday Open Thread: Hi Everybody

Ms.Martin — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:40:00 -0000

Who thinks Reverend Wright is going to respond?

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Craig Hickman — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:38:00 -0000

It may hurt him among some Black voters.

But so what.

Anybody that saw that can see how difficult that was for Obama.

Re: Tuesday Open Thread: Hi Everybody

Ms.Martin — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:33:00 -0000

Why would Chris Matthews say that he thought Michelle was the reason Barack stayed with the church when Barack is the one who brought her to that church.

He also thinks the separation will hurt Barack with black folks. Little does he know, we don't like it when folks show their ass in public.

Re: Tuesday Open Thread: Hi Everybody

Ms.Martin — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:30:00 -0000

I know he feels bad about what Wright did to him. I do. Wright purposefully tried to hint that Obama was not genuine.

Wright reminds me of the people who said he wasn't black enough. That because Obama is black he has to subscribe to every argument that Wright has.

Chris Matthews is saying that he didn't explain why he and the other good people of Trinity would listen to Wright.

Probably the same reason white folks who aren't prejudice grin and bear it when crazy white folks are speaking their anger.

Andrea Mitchell is schooling Matthews on the mixture of the church.

Re: Tuesday Open Thread: Hi Everybody

Craig Hickman — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:28:00 -0000

truth, Obama always over-explains. Comes from insecurity.

That is his Achilles heel.