Jack and Jill Politics - Latest Comments in Tuesday Open Thread: What’s Up, People?

Re: Tuesday Open Thread: What’s Up, People?

Craig Hickman — Wed, 07 May 2008 00:50:00 -0000

teacher, homosexuality does not equal promiscuity, despite all the noise to the contrary.

But your questions need a whole forum to discuss and I'm not sure JJP is the place for it.

Just my take.

Re: Tuesday Open Thread: What’s Up, People?

Anonymous — Tue, 06 May 2008 20:57:00 -0000

About Indiana. Rush Limpballs is just about on every station on the radio dial in Indiana.

Indiana also has a lot of Jehovah Witness (Tavis Smiley for one) who don't believe in voting or politics.

Operation Chaos+non voting Jehovah Witness=Clinton "Victory", defeat for America.

Re: Tuesday Open Thread: What’s Up, People?

Teacher — Tue, 06 May 2008 20:28:00 -0000

I pray not to offend anyone with my comments. I read a couple of articles and comments on The Daily Voice. I followed a link of a story about a principal who outted a couple of gay boys for pda (public display of affection). So the link led to a couple of stories about rampant homosexuality at Morehouse College. These stories totally shocked me, because I did not know the school had this particular reputation. So I don't know what to think, but I talked to my son about it last night since my cousin's son attends there as well.

My world is very small & insular. I am on the outs with my church/religion because of the materialism and because of anti-gay sentiments. I just don't want to bash God's children or pretend that I don't love them, cause I do.

That said, I read stuff that suggests that homosexuality is rampant among Black men. There is the whole DL thing and statistics stating that around 75% of adult Black females are unmarried. We somewhat have a kind of undercover, highly disorganized polygmany of sorts among those who participate in having children with a variety of partners.

So I wonder,can all these men be gay? If so, why? What is attractive about homosexuality, and why are so many willing to participate/experiment with it? I guess I don't have a grip on the homosexual inclinations of the non-effeminate man. I still think that some might be born with these inclinations and some might just choose to participate due to pleasure, the same way one might like liquior or recreational substances that are illegal.

People can be whatever they want to be, but what kind of impact does this have on the Black community? Sexual promiscuity is injurious to our people, whether it is hetero or homosexual. It deeply disturbs me that a man would marry a woman and use her as a front because he wants society to look at him a certain way (or whatever), and then would go on to endanger her life by exposing her to the possible consequences of his double life style.

Are there more gay men now than in the past? Does it have an impact, positive or negative, on the Black community at large? Is monogomy a possible and desirable state for African Americans to aspire toward? If not, what are the viable, healthy alternatives?

There was a post on this site by a lady who had to do her taxes multiple times because her life mate was also female. I was not offended by her being gay, because of her attempts to build a life with one person. I have been to gay weddings. I guess I dislike promiscuity more than homosexuality. I would not want my son or daughter F-ing around with many people. I just don't think it's healthy for the body or soul.

Thanks for listening.

Re: Tuesday Open Thread: What’s Up, People?

teacher — Tue, 06 May 2008 19:29:00 -0000

Keith Boykin is getting things together over @ The Daily Voice. I read an "article" by Maya Angelou on why she still supports Hillbilly. Well, the people who responded cut Maya up just like she is not a Black icon and national treasure. It was bloody,harsh and ugly. You know the invective came from the youth. Not that some valid points weren't made, but duhzam. The disrespect was depressing and illustrates yet another aspect of our collective pathology. I pray that my children will not be like that.

Re: Tuesday Open Thread: What’s Up, People?

Teacher — Tue, 06 May 2008 19:14:00 -0000

As I write these words, CNN is saying the Obama is getting his butt kicked in Indiana. So sad. They are all but totally ignoring NC.

This political competition has really contributed to my personal malaise.I have serious issues on my mind, lke this. If Clinton wins, what are we (African-Americans) going to do? What I think is that it will be business as usual, and this is what depresses me so thoroughly. What if Obama wins? What are we going to do to promote our own uplift? Most Black people I've met don't want to leave america. I'm sure I will HAVE to leave because I won't be able to afford to live in america when I reach retirement age.Even now, I have to go to Mexico to get affordable dental care, and I've basically decided to get any serious health care in Mexico, because the Drs. and dentists are MUCH nicer and more thorough. My insurance is not worth the paper it's printed on and I hope I get the courage to totally drop it....But sorry, I didn't mean to go off on this tangent.

I don't really see us (Blacks) having the will to change our circumstances. If I had magic dust, I would cause us to to love and support each other like I see other races and ethnicities doing.We are so consumer oriented...Why can't we put our $ together and do something substantial? One of my co-workers loves S. Africa and goes as much as he can. He has an import/export business & safari business with a S. African partner. He was telling me how he almost bought a hotel in Swaziland. Why can't some like-minded Black folks get together and get a hotel? If there is a deal to be made, an affluent Black will do it on their own and increase their personal wealth. I have seen people of other races do things differently. I've heard all the theories of being scarred by slavery, Willie Lynch, yada,yada, but I also think those are excuses to stay the same. If you don't move out of the gate as an individual, too bad. Get as much as you can for you and yours because we aren't getting ready to do anything collectively. It's unfortunate, but you'll have to get over it.So, that's what I do. I nurture relationships with my foreign friends so I can have some place to send my son when the draft is reinstated, and so I can have somewhere to take my family when the shoe drops. I am actively preparing to emigrate and adopt the culture of people who like each other and try to work together. Is anyone else discouraged?

Re: Tuesday Open Thread: What’s Up, People?

Craig Hickman — Tue, 06 May 2008 18:18:00 -0000

I don't like Jonathan Capehart. I think he's a joke.

But as a Black gay man, I think that calling him a pansy is a bit over-the-top.

Just saying.

Re: Tuesday Open Thread: What’s Up, People?

rikyrah — Tue, 06 May 2008 16:49:00 -0000

Indiana nuns lacking ID denied at poll by fellow sister

Re: Tuesday Open Thread: What’s Up, People?

rikyrah — Tue, 06 May 2008 15:08:00 -0000

Hillary Clinton Has a Palmore v. Sidoti Problem, and Now We Do Too

Re: Tuesday Open Thread: What’s Up, People?

Antenna-ness — Tue, 06 May 2008 14:32:00 -0000

The Swamp has an article about Chris Matthews of MSNBC outing himself last night as an “Obaminian”. Check it out.

Chris Matthews: Obamania 'not official'

Re: Tuesday Open Thread: What’s Up, People?

Antenna-ness — Tue, 06 May 2008 14:30:00 -0000

The Swamp has an article about Chris Matthews of MSNBC outing himself last night as an “Obaminian”. Check it out.

Chris Matthews: Obamania 'not official'

Re: Tuesday Open Thread: What’s Up, People?

Khalil Thomas — Tue, 06 May 2008 14:14:00 -0000

http://hillarytruth.blogspo...

Just a little something I found... Why isn't the media reporting this... The more I dig, the more I find. It is incredible how the media chooses its victim. When Obama finally pulls away, they'll begin to report this stuff about Hillary. Take a look at the link posted above....

Re: Tuesday Open Thread: What’s Up, People?

Da Bee's Knees — Tue, 06 May 2008 11:36:00 -0000

Hanging Noose Not Hate Crime:

http://www.floridatoday.com...

Apparently, here in Florida... you can hang a noose in your new neighbors yard.

Re: Tuesday Open Thread: What’s Up, People?

andyfrombrooklyn — Tue, 06 May 2008 11:12:00 -0000

i am pretty sure i read that laura bush ran over and killed her first boyfriend with her car or truck. this is something i want to hear more about. what kind of life values condone running over boyfriends with motor vehicles? until she addresses this story, i can't take her seriously.

Re: Tuesday Open Thread: What’s Up, People?

D. — Tue, 06 May 2008 10:04:00 -0000

N.,
Glutton for punishment? LOL

I helped to arrange to get absentee ballots for the '00 elections on my ship, and was receiving them well into our deployment in '01. You're right; commands only cover their personnel, not their families. The system sucks.

Ms. Martin,

Mrs. Bush has made several remarks on Katrina. Most of them on on her White House page.

I'm sure there's a good reason as to why she gave the speech and the President didn't.

Re: Tuesday Open Thread: What’s Up, People?

RyanB — Tue, 06 May 2008 10:02:00 -0000

Obama acting more presidential than our current president.
http://uk.reuters.com/artic...

Re: Tuesday Open Thread: What’s Up, People?

rikyrah — Tue, 06 May 2008 10:01:00 -0000

Interesting comment by a reader over at Andrew Sullivan's blog, about how these Black commentators who can't seem to defend Obama...what do they think would happen if Obama lost? It was funny for someone to point out the obvious - it wasn't out of the goodness of the tv producer's heart that all these Black folk began to pop up on tv doing commentary...the tv producers realized how ridiculous it was to have all-White panels discussing a race with a Black man in it, and had to reach out and find Black voices. I hadn't thought of it that way,btu it makes sense.

Re: Tuesday Open Thread: What’s Up, People?

rikyrah — Tue, 06 May 2008 09:49:00 -0000

I call Johnathan the pansy with the horn-rimmed glasses. Like I've said before, he gets on my last Black nerve.

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N. Mahana — Tue, 06 May 2008 09:47:00 -0000

d,

Also, as a former military spouse (yes I was one of those too *laughs*) I found out in 04' that it seems the wives of some service men do not receive their absentee ballots.

Before the 04 election I had a luncheon in my home to discuss all of the candidates positions on the issues that mattered to us Military mives. In addition I specifically talked about how to apply for and send an absentee ballot.

However, later my husband tells me, oh you don't have to do that, the command gives us absentee ballot application.

Unfortunately, after the election I was shocked to discover that ALL but one of the women whom were at my luncheon, actually voted.

I was told by a few that their Husband's never gave them the absentee ballot application. The common theme...they were only given one by the command.

I don't know what to believe but I found that very unsettling. Conviently forgetting to give their wives applications to vote for one of the most important elections of our time? However I don't solely hold the men to blame.

I gave the women at my luncheon the information on how to do it themselves and if their husbands came back with only one absentee ballot application then they should have took it upon themselves to do it on their own.

It was very frustrating to see that happen and I couldn't help wondering how many other "wives" in the military did not vote due to something similiar.

Re: Tuesday Open Thread: What’s Up, People?

Ms.Martin — Tue, 06 May 2008 09:42:00 -0000

Who beside me is a little put off by Laura Bush speaking out on behalf of Myannmar? Where was she when the folks of New Orleans were suffering - I don't remember her speaking out. Do any of you?

Re: Tuesday Open Thread: What’s Up, People?

justice58 — Tue, 06 May 2008 09:37:00 -0000

"I want to know why Johnathan Capehole is always on MSNBC. He is something that I won't say but I hope I am not the only one who sees it. I've written MSNBC twice to try to get that idiot off the air but maybe he only grates me the wrong way.
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You're not the only one that sees it! I've been saying the same thing for weeks on end! With his nerdy @ss!

Re: Tuesday Open Thread: What’s Up, People?

bpm — Tue, 06 May 2008 09:13:00 -0000

I want to know why Johnathan Capehole is always on MSNBC. He is something that I won't say but I hope I am not the only one who sees it. I've written MSNBC twice to try to get that idiot off the air but maybe he only grates me the wrong way.

Re: Tuesday Open Thread: What’s Up, People?

D. — Tue, 06 May 2008 09:04:00 -0000

From the Weekly Standard-and in advance of the cries of "foul!!" in Indiana/NC today:

Disenfranchised Over There: Let's Defend the Voting Rights of Those Who Defend Us

Military personnel based outside the United States are still dependent on the mail to receive and cast their ballots. When an election official sends a ballot overseas, it can take three weeks (or more) to reach a soldier in Iraq or a sailor on a ship halfway around the world. Even if the soldier or sailor completes the ballot immediately, it may take another three weeks to get back. Many ballots simply do not get home in time.

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Texas Girl in L.A. — Tue, 06 May 2008 08:48:00 -0000

Obama reached his goal of 1,500,000individual donors to his campaign.

Setting the tone for more good news to come.

I'm just putting it out there.

Re: Tuesday Open Thread: What’s Up, People?

Anonymous — Tue, 06 May 2008 08:36:00 -0000

interesting story about actual action Obama is taking that can reduce gas prices: http://www.politico.com/blo... When will the MSM cover this???

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Ms.Martin — Tue, 06 May 2008 07:57:00 -0000

DWS

Kama Harris represented SBO very well and she contained Lanny King which is always a pleasure for me.

It seems as though the mission of Clinton supporters are to out talk everyone else and keep repeating their ridiculous logic know matter the subject or the truth. Kamala contained Lanny Davis last night especially regarding the MI and Fl votes.