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Jack and Jill Politics: Wednesday Open Thread

  • GreenLadyHere · 1 year ago
    rikyrah: I am EXHAUSTED -Up since 5:30am on Tuesday. Annnnnnd still awake! Will probably "crash" - BIG TIME on WED. :>) :>)

    BUT, I have ta bring you some of the "SIGHTS and SOUNDS" from my "poll working" experience.

    1. One of my responsibilities was to give the "I VOTED" stickers to ALL. Most of the time, I handed it to them, BUT, some people said, "You can put it on!" So I accommodated - UNTIL - this one old "non-melanin" man asked me to put it on him and then said - "PRESS HARDER!" I, professionally, took him aside and said - "Ya need to slow your roll "OLD DUDE!" This is NOT a massage parlor!! I told him that I could report him for some kind of "harassment!" He got scurred and apologized! WT freak? :>)

    2. A tender moment: A young "AA husband/wife" took a picture with their baby son after they voted. I believe that this was the FIRST Time that they voted! It was nice! :>)

    3. I was working the table "M - Z". And I saw and heard this Hispanic male [kinda 40-ish] riled up! He Then looked down the line of people at me and said - very loudly - "Is the the Barack Obama line??" "I ain't votin' for no John McCain!"

    The majority of the voters were white and they had the strangest looks on their faces. I "professionally" smiled [BUT CRACKED UP INSIDE] and said that you could vote for your candidate at in any booth! :>) :>) LAWD HA"MERCY!! IT WAS FUNNY!!! :>)

    3. This made me CRY. I had ta "step outside." One voter was a "somewhat mentally-challenged" 30-ish AA male. This was his first time voting. He sought me out and asked if I could help him with his voting since he didn't know how to do it. YES I helped him! And after he turned in his ballot with a BIG SMILE, his came back to me and said "THANK YOU!" I held myself together long ENOUGH to be able to get out of that room to get my "CRY ON!"

    THAT was a "special moment!"

    4. Then there was the matter of the "SUPERVISOR" with "IMPULSIVITY ISSUES!" I knew the procedures used to search for the name of a voter. So, did she have to ask me IFFFF I checked BOTH LISTS!! I turned to her and in my best JJP form, I said - TRUST!! She just looked at me like a deer in headlights! Funny moment! :>)

    5. Had ta use my "bi-lingual skills" when speaking to some of my poll-worker buddies. One of them asked me where the "resource book" was. I said, "I don't know. Maybe you could ask Carol. She can "HOOK YOU UP!" Wellllll, after her quizzical look - I went "bi-lingual" on her and said, "Maybe she CAN HELP YOU!" then she said. Oh. O.K. I'll ask her. :>) :>) LAWD HE'P!! **shakin' my head** :>) :>)

    6. Then there was Mr. Romero - early 40-ish. While he was signing in he said -"Welll, this is a VERY HISTORICAL ELECTION!" **little smirk** I'm hoping that things will come out for the VERY BEST! **thumbs up** I said I SURE HOPE SO 2!! **smile**

    Then he said, "We're communicating - huh?" I fell out laughing - professionally, of course. :>)

    After he voted, he returned his ballot and said - "Make sure my ballot counts a lot!" **smile** Then he walked off, **fingers in a "V"** and said, "See you at the "VICTORY CELEBRATION tonight!!" Mentally, I went ta RAOTFL - hysterically!!!

    "Home-boy" was on a roll and a mission - to VOTE for President-Elect Barack H. Obama!! This was a great moment!! :>) :>)

    YES, I enjoyed THIS TIME - WORKING THE POLLS!!

    PRESIDENT-ELECT Barack Hussein Obama!! YES HE DID!! :>) God Bless!

    O.K. I'm "CRASHING!! :>) :>)
  • Suprk · 1 year ago
    Can I say thank you for all you did, and though you are tired, doesn't all that work feel good? Besides I know we are all able to sleep much easier now. Hats off to you GreenLadyHere
  • GreenLadyHere · 1 year ago
    Suprk: U R very kind!! Yes, I slept peacefully because of this "HISTORICAL MOMENT!! :>)

    Hats off to y'all/JJP!! :>) God Bless ALL!
  • claudia_m · 1 year ago
    Ditto! You're awesome, GreenLady. Your encouragement, capital letters, and exclamation points have been amazing! (TRUST!) He did it, YOU did it, we did it.
  • GreenLadyHere · 1 year ago
    caludia_m: Thank you! I soooo much ENJOY being at JJP - with y'all! :>)
  • nickwah22 · 1 year ago
    You sound like you had fun!! You are crazy btw haha
  • GreenLadyHere · 1 year ago
    nickwah22: I did!! :>) Annnnnd, I practice!! Thank you! :>)
  • MsKitty · 1 year ago
    Thanks for sharing your experiences GreenLady. Sounded like it was a great day.
  • GreenLadyHere · 1 year ago
    MsKitty: U R welcome! :>)
  • Val · 1 year ago
    RAOTFLMAO! Greenlady - you are amazing.
  • GreenLadyHere · 1 year ago
    Val: Thank you! :>)
  • rorysmomma · 1 year ago
    Green lady I am singing "You know you're a special lady...."
  • GreenLadyHere · 1 year ago
    rorysmomma: Annnnd, I am humbled! Thank you! :<)
  • rikyrah · 1 year ago
    make me cry, why did you?

    love it
  • GreenLadyHere · 1 year ago
    rikyrah: Thank you. :>)
  • claudia_m · 1 year ago
    I'm not going to say "I can't believe it," because I CAN believe it. This is a wonderful, wonderful moment.

    Funny thing, now I'm thinking about all the stuff I put off because I was so caught up in this election. Have to send out those emails apologizing to my students, have to clean up my house, pay those overdue bills - LOL.

    I don't think I'm ever going to take my Obama 08 bumper sticker off my car. Well, not until 2012 (when I put up his re-elect one). But I'm so glad I've already put in my order for these stickers - "O: Our President" - everybody needs to get one. I'm planning on giving them out as Christmas gifts!: http://bumperstickers.cafepress.com/item/obama-...

    As Curtis Mayfield said, "We're A Winner"!!!!!!

    Oh - one more thing: according to the latest news, Obama is winning (has won?) NC by .02 percent of the vote. Small, but that's really a big deal for the South.
  • Lilytiger · 1 year ago
    Claudia, my my how we are alike. The house is destroyed and I swear I haven't written a check since Hillary lost. LOL


    Well, not that bad but still.

    Oh Seattle had people dancing in the streets last night.

    http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/seattlepolit...
  • nickwah22 · 1 year ago
    I was hoping for a Usain Bolt type finish and I surely got it.

    I wonder how that G-10/G-15 (whatever it is) meeting is going to go now that President Elect BO is going to be running thangs.
  • Rhondacoca · 1 year ago
    Amen to the Usain Bolt type finish! I am Jamaican so any mention of Usain gets me so excited. Just like Obama, Usain made Jamaicans really proud.
  • GreenLadyHere · 1 year ago
    rikyrah: ANSWER: BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!! :>)

    QUESTION: "WHYCOME" you are JUST getting home from COUNTING the BALLOTS at your polling place, WHEN the 44th PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA and his family have been home and have gone to bed?? :>) :>)

    Whew!! **shaking my head while RAOTFL** Deep Breaths!! :>) :>)

    I'm SERIOUS. At 8:00pm we closed the poll. At, approximately 8:35 pm, some man came to the poll to vote. I broke the sad news that we had closed the poll [as prescribed by law] at 8:00 pm. As he was leaving the room, he turned around and said - Oh! BTW - John McCain is about to give his CONSESSION SPEECH!!

    We have a NEW PRESIDENT! And because I was trying to pull a President Obama "cool persona", I said O.K. Then I went to the Ladies Room and CRIED and THANKED THE LORD!! :>) :>)

    THIS WAS A HAPPY and BLESSED DAY!! :>) :>)
  • Miranda · 1 year ago
    I'm gonna be so sleepy at work tomorrow...but I can't sleep!
  • JJai · 1 year ago
    and I couldn't sleep last night either as I was so excited to vote today!
  • TruthSeeker · 1 year ago
    Storming the Bastille?

    "Evict Bush NOW"
    Outside the White House People Demand Eviction NOW!
    http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=7BY0NSfst9g

    Crazy kids...lol.
  • Miranda · 1 year ago
    LMAO!
  • parker404 · 1 year ago
    yeah, that really moved me. Those young kids wanted Bush to move out immediately.
  • icebergslim · 1 year ago
  • rikyrah · 1 year ago
    thank you iceberg
  • GreenLadyHere · 1 year ago
    iceberg: WOW!!! :>) THANK YOU SOOOOO MUCH!! :>) :>)
  • Miranda · 1 year ago
    Michelle was GLOWING. She was just radiant. I just LOVE that black family!!!!
  • Miranda · 1 year ago
    They just called Indiana finally! What a azz kicking!!!
  • Justice58 · 1 year ago
    Indeed
  • rikyrah · 1 year ago
    Obama won Indiana
  • JJai · 1 year ago
    Oh my God. I am about to start singing "we have come this far by faith"!!!
  • Justice58 · 1 year ago
    lol
  • GreenLadyHere · 1 year ago
    JJai: Get the "key" from my post on Tuesday!! JJP CHOIR - unite!! :>)
  • JJai · 1 year ago
    ok, I am ready!
  • TruthSeeker · 1 year ago
    hee hee...

    who called it?
  • TruthSeeker · 1 year ago
    OBAMA WINS!!!!!!!
    http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=AT-31htGFTE
    MSNBC clips of various gatherings as race called for Obama...wild.

    --------------------------
    This is the Zeitgeist Election! Christopher Hitchens on BBC
    http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=C3vBr7ytupg
  • kalagenesis · 1 year ago
    I was an election official this year.I worked 16 hours at the voting poll.I saw so many people waiting for hours to vote.I saw young old every race creed and color out their.I tell you just peeping over the shoulders of some people and you would be surprised at how people voted.In my precinct there was 1210 for Mccain and 840 for Obama this in the mostly White military area.I knew Obama had Virginia after we read those results.The Obama family is too cute!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • GreenLadyHere · 1 year ago
    kalagenesis: Co-signing! When I started counting the ballots and saw all those M/P votes! I got mad!! Out of ALL that they had seen and heard, some people could STILL vote for that "ILLITERATE PAIR!" -uh! uh! Uh! THEY are SHAMEFUL!!

    Unfortunately, they won't get what they deserve - a M/P administration!! HAH!! :>) :>)
  • barry4obama · 1 year ago
    I CRIED LIKE A BABY!!!!
  • JJai · 1 year ago
    Barry, I had family over we had a long day and I didn't cry. But, when I got still alone I cried and it was ugly, lol
  • TruthSeeker · 1 year ago
    It looks like O won NC too....they're showing 100% reporting with about a 11,000 vote lead.
  • JJai · 1 year ago
    I wanted NC or GA. I am so excited!
  • TruthSeeker · 1 year ago
    Well...there maybe some issue with Georgia's numbers:
    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/11/5/12649/6...

    I read another diary during early voting where it seemed the AA male vote was significantly lower than the AA female vote by about 200,000(if memory serves).

    They think some of the early votes have not been counted yet... Maybe Georgia's a win after all. :-)
  • nickwah22 · 1 year ago
    buh bye southern strategy! FL, NC, possibly GA?
  • JJai · 1 year ago
    awesome, I really wanted GA but would take NC!
  • JJai · 1 year ago
    Good Night, JJP!
  • J. Clarence · 1 year ago
    I think Obama said it best tonight, when he talked about this moment is merely the opportunity to change things; nevertheless, what we have all done today is truly amazing, and hopefully it will help break down some of the remaining bridges that exist in our hearts and minds.
  • Rhondacoca · 1 year ago
    and society.
  • GreenLadyHere · 1 year ago
    D: Where you at?? :>)
  • Justice58 · 1 year ago
    Hiding. Covering his ears! I'm kidding!!! lol
  • D. · 1 year ago
    I'm here, even through the exhaustion and depression of it all.

    More than anything, I'm glad it's over.

    Congratulations to President-elect Obama, his family, and his supporters.
  • GreenLadyHere · 1 year ago
    D: Chin up!!! Life is going on!! Annnnnnnnnd HOW!!! :>)

    THANK YOU!! :>)
  • GreenLadyHere · 1 year ago
    rikyrah: Rev. Joe Watkins STILL cain't give it up for Mr. President!!

    Wonder IFFF it HURTS to be such a "HATA" and a Rev.? Hmmf!

    President- Elect "BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA! YES HE CAN!! :>) :>)
  • Justice58 · 1 year ago
    And a Rev at that!!!! He's a jealous hater and a bootlicker!!!!
  • GreenLadyHere · 1 year ago
    Justice58: YEAH! :>)
  • Val · 1 year ago
    was that bootlicker or buttlicker? lol

    Lord forgive me HAH!
  • Justice58 · 1 year ago
    hey guys,

    What a night to have computer problems. Heck, I missed some of the celebrations with you guys. I have no voice. It's gone and my throat is raw from screaming and crying.
    When it was announced that Barack Obama is the next president, I started screaming and fell to the floor.....it was all over then! God, it is real! It is real!

    President Barack Obama! Woo Hoo!
  • TruthSeeker · 1 year ago
    :-)
  • Rhondacoca · 1 year ago
    The same exact thing happened 2 me!
  • GreenLadyHere · 1 year ago
    rikyrah: Ya see, the OBAMAs didn't JUST pick out their clothing today!

    I'm believin' that HE KNEW!! HE has always been ANOINTED! THANK YOU GOD!! :>)

    PRESIDENT-ELECT Barack Hussein Obama! YES HE CAN!! :>)
  • GreenLadyHere · 1 year ago
    rikyrah: I hope that this is NOT a duplicate. Sorry.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/04/reacti...
    Reactions Around The World!!

    People around the world were celebrating the election of Barack Obama as President of the United States of America.

    See election reactions around the U.S.

    Kenya, where Obama's relatives were singing in the streets "We are going to the White House!", has declared Wednesday a national holiday after Barack Obama.

    See how people around the world kept themselves busy on election day.

    Read more about Election Results.

    See photos of Barack Obama on election day, John McCain on election day, Sarah Palin on election day, and Joe Biden on election day.
    You can IGNORE the McAncient/UN-VETTED ONE pics/

    President-Elect Barack Hussein Obama!! YES HE CAN! :>)
  • GreenLadyHere · 1 year ago
    rikyrah: I'm going to bring a few articles from "Alaska". THEY are ECSTATIC!! :>) :>)

    1.

    http://mudflats.wordpress.com/2008/11/04/electi...
    Election Night Open Thread - YES WE DID!!

    What an incredible day. It’s still sinking in that we have a President Elect Obama. I just returned from Election Central in downtown Anchorage. Many candidates were there, and everyone was feeling very festive. The Barack Obama campaign people came in with huge signs and the place went wild with chants of Yes We Can! It was electric.

    I will tell you all about the evening tomorrow, Mudflatters… I am so overwhelmed by this historic night that words aren’t coming.

    SKIP

    I will continue to do what I have been doing here, although work, family, and my disaster of a house will need to take some of my time. I was blogging before Sarah Palin’s unlikely rise to the national stage, and hopefully will be doing this after her time is up. I’m not worried that Alaska will run out of muck any time soon.

    (Raises glass) To you Mudflatters, and to a brave new chapter in American history. Yes we can.


    THERE IS MORE.

    2. http://mudflats.wordpress.com/2008/11/04/presid...
    President Elect Barack Obama

    Hi everyone,

    Snoskred here. AKMuckraker is stuck on a new laptop unable to log in, but dropped by the chat to let me know you needed a new open thread. Here tis! Enjoy.

    Oh, and as a non-American, may I be one of the first to congratulate you on the election of Barack Obama. Everyone I know here in Australia is so thrilled for you. *I* am thrilled for you.

    Now, fingers crossed that Alaska turns blue. Sephyroth tells me it cannot happen, but I have faith, and I believe.. yes we can! ;)

    3. I VOTED!

    filled in Mark Begich, then Ethan Berkowitz, then my local race. I saved Obama-Biden for last. I took a deep breath and really thought about what it took to get to this day, not only all the incredible work that has gone into this particular election, but also to have a viable African-American candidate on the ballot as nominee for the President of the United States.

    I hope to see a woman in that spot too, some day. But I want to vote for a woman who has earned her place on the ticket through her own intelligence, principles, work ethic, determination and grit, not someone who got picked as a strategic calculation, and a poor one at that. I looked at Palin’s name on the ballot. After my deep breath, I filled in the Obama-Biden oval carefully…being sure not to leave one little white space. Then I double checked to make sure I filled in the right oval, and didn’t make a horrible mistake because of my reverie.

    4. LET THE GAMES BEGIN: ELECTION DAY IN ALASKA!

    The day started early. I left the house at 6:00am, took the long drive up to Wasilla, just because I had to wave a sign at Sarh Palin as she drove by. We never caught up with the sign waving crowd, but we did see the Governor’s entourage flanked by Alaska State Trooper cars in front and back, with 12 or 15 SUVs and other vehicles in between. The sun wasn’t up yet, and it was freezing cold. I doubt she saw me with my Alaskans for Obama sign on the side of the road, but I can say I was there. I followed the motorcade on the way back into town, but never caught up. They were in a hurry.

    SKIP

    Back in Anchorage, there were lots of people out smiling and waving signs at major intersections - Obama, Begich, and Berkowitz supporters were out en masse. There were a few Don Young people, even fewer McCain Palin people, and nobody for Ted Stevens on this first pass through town today.

    Next stop - voting! I’ve got my video camera, and I’m ready to video my vote.


    MUDFLATTERS have a re-newed strength to "rally against the UN-VETTED ONE When SHE RETURNS TO ALASKA!! HAH!!! :>) :>)

    NORTH TO ALASKA!!

    Whoooo! Hoooo! :>)
  • Teacher · 1 year ago
    SHE'LL BE BAAACK

    skip

    But Republican leaders say the election was just the beginning for Sarah Palin.
    Despite coming under fire for her inexperience, insiders say she is already being groomed to run for the presidency in 2012.
    She even let slip her own ambitions last week, saying in a TV interview that she’s ‘not doing all this for naught'.
    And should her presidential ambitions full flat, Hollywood has also come calling.
    Several top producers are vying to see if she can turn her popularity among the country’s conservatives into TV ratings.
    Now Joe Biden will be filling the vacant VP job in Washington, network executives are sharpening their pitches to try and persuade her to capitalise on her new found celebrity.
    Her self-mocking appearance on Saturday Night Live, with lookalike star Tina Fey and actor Alec Baldwin, only heightened Palin fever in Hollywood.
    ‘Any television person who sees the numbers when she appears on anything would say Sarah Palin would be great,’ said veteran morning-show producer Steve Friedman.
    ‘The passion she has on each side, love and hate, makes television people say, "Wow, imagine the viewership".‘
    According to the Hollywood Reporter, most industry insiders believe an Oprah Winfrey-style daytime talk show will be the probable route for the 44-year-old.
    They think her folksy, straight-shooting personality would be an immediate hit with the predominantly female audience.
    'I see her less a variety show host like Ellen De Generes and more of a single-topic host like Tyra Banks,’ said one top TV producer.
    Cable news is another possibility and perhaps easier to fit in with her day job. Mike Huckerbee, who lost out to John McCain in the Republican primaries, has just begun his own weekly show on Fox News.
    One producer has even floated the idea - only half-jokingly - of taking advantage of the curiosity surrounding the entire Palin clan and their Alaska setting and packaging a reality show called ‘The Palins’ as a mixture of The Osbournes and Northern Exposure.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1083142...
  • Town · 1 year ago
    The day John McCain picked her to be his VP is the day he lost the election.

    Sarah Palin does not know her role.

    People complained about Joe Biden and his gaffes and Biden in general but Biden knew his role and stayed in his place.

    Biden knew he was #2, not #1.

    Sarah Palin thought she was #1, and John McCain's efforts to smack her back down to #2 and cleaning up after her wasted a lot of time.

    I don't see a future in national politics for her. She cannot be trusted. If she wants to be #1, she needs to stay her ass right in Alaska.
  • parker404 · 1 year ago
    Honestly, I LOVE the idea of a Palin family reality show. That would be some entertaining, dysfunctional sh1t.
  • MsKitty · 1 year ago
    Even better, just put the Palins on a "very special" Jerry Springer Show. Then again, maybe Maury would be a better choice since there's some baby mystery issues.
  • djchefron · 1 year ago
    Gov. Palin will not make it out of the republican primaries.Where Obama would not bring up her lack of knowledge the republican candidates will not be so kind.The sideshow of the jockeying for power that will go on in the republican party will be a hilarious sideshow while we get down to the serious business of fixing our nation.
  • Suprk · 1 year ago
    The world is celebrating.

    Wednesday Newspaper Front Pages(Updatedx5) US and Worldwide Edition- PRESIDENT OBAMA
    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/11/5/04621/2...

    Pictures: President-Elect Barack Obama and Vice-President Elect Joe Biden Hotlist
    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/11/5/11637/6...

    Election Reactions Around The Country (PHOTOS)
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/04/electi...
  • rorysmomma · 1 year ago
    Suicide watch for Joe Scarborough. Suicide watch for fox news and Elisabeth Hasselbeck.
  • Miranda · 1 year ago
    Will I be wrong if I yell "Go ahead! Jump! It won't hurt! I'll catch you!!"
  • MsKitty · 1 year ago
    If that's wrong, I don't want to be right LOL
  • Suprk · 1 year ago
    Mind if I co-sign with you all on this? LOL
  • Val · 1 year ago
    Miranda - I will be right there with you.
  • Sepia · 1 year ago
    LMBAO!
  • Town · 1 year ago
    You know I'm taping THE VIEW. Elisabeth will probably call in sick. LOL!!
  • TruthSeeker · 1 year ago
    Today she was frantically trying to rejoin the human race - gushing over the historical relevance of the election. She seems to think that now this is over, we should all forget that in the darkest hours, she tried to kill us.
  • DWS2 · 1 year ago
    As I watched the results everything seemed to be moving in slow motion. It was not until President Elect Obama spoke that the reality hit me.

    Even though I participated here, contributed to the campaign and encouraged others to do the same last night still blew me away. I am thrilled that we were all successful but there was a small part of me that was not sure we would be and that makes me a little sad.

    I pray for Pres. Obama and his family and his administration for the road ahead will be a challenging one but I have every confidence that he will rise to the occasion.

    Peace.
  • Sepia · 1 year ago
    My God, My God! I still can't believe it. It's so surreal. I get chills of joy and pride every time I see or hear the words: President Barack Hussein Obama.

    YES. WE. DID.
  • MsKitty · 1 year ago
    I'm exhausted, have the hangover from hell, the coffee hasn't kicked in yet, but it's a great day. I think I'm still in disbelief that America came through and did the right thing for once. I just keep thinking back to the moment when the election was called. We were whooping, hollering, high fiving each other. And then I thought about my Mom, and the tears came like Niagara Falls. You see, Mom was a political junkie (I talked yesterday about how she went into labor with me while watching the '64 returns) and she would have loved this election, and she would have been over the moon right now. Even more ironic, Inauguration Day will be on what would have been Mom's 70th birthday. But I know she's smiling wherever she is.
  • RonnieB · 1 year ago
    As President-elect Obama was often required to say, his faith in the American people has been vindicated. But until now, what he couldn't say--and what many of us feel today--is that Black people's 400-year sacrificial expenditure of body, mind, and spirit has been redeemed.

    As proud as I am of President-elect Obama, I'm equally proud of Black Americans' intellect, organization, sacrifice, and discipline in putting Obama where he is. This is a moment in history that we deserve. We can and certainly should share this wonderful gift with our fellow American family.

    Yet make no mistake, we have earned this moment of joy.
  • Val · 1 year ago
    I have to edit your statement just a little bit Ronnie so I can officially co-sign.

    eehh emmmm (clearing throat)

    As proud as I am of President-elect Obama, I'm equally proud of Black, White, Hispanic and all other Non-White Americans' intellect, organization, sacrifice, and discipline in putting Obama where he is.

    I am just recognizing that he couldn't do this with just the support of the blacks. It took the collective effort of all races.
  • RonnieB · 1 year ago
    We certainly crossed the finish line together. And we shall go forward together for the rest of our American days.

    But I seek to acknowledge the special, unique and incomparable preparation of this moment, by generations of Black Americans--from today's hip hop generation to first-generation Africans.

    Make no mistake; this moment is all of ours to share. And I love that I can share it with my fellow Rainbow brethren.
  • Suprk · 1 year ago
    I am curious to see how the media is going to spin this. I would love to hear anyone's input on this as well. My question is, will the media acknowledge that this win by Obama gives him a mandate?

    In 1960, Kennedy carried four fewer states than Nixon, won less than 50% of the popular vote, and many claimed he did not even win the popular vote (he won by about 113,000).

    In 1976, Carter carried four fewer states than Ford, so many Repukes sneered at him for that as well.

    In 1992 Clinton failed to win 50% of the vote due to Perot's independent run. Funny, the Repugs didn't have a problem with it when Nixon only got 43.4% of the vote in 1968 thanks to George Wallace.

    In 1996 Clinton once again failed to win 50% - he got 49.24% - as again Perot entered the race. Sorry pal, no mandate.

    In 2000, Bush lost the popular vote to Gore (and in my opinion the election) despite OBVIOUSLY not having a mandate, he governed as though he did and went on to completely ignore the rest of us.

    In 2004, Bush won the popular vote, got more than 50%, and won 12 more states than Kerry. Though I believe he stole it again 120,000 votes going the other way in Ohio would of made Kerry the winner. Yet after that squeaker of an election the MSM and the right wing claimed Bush was given a mandate. I do not know where they got this, but it was the running story.

    So I know want to see if after this convincing wing, after knocking off both Hillary and McCain, with a people driven campaign will they admit he has a mandate and allow him to govern that way? Fox News and those on the right are already talking about this country being a center right country, I could care less about that, but it is my assumption this is their call to try and stop anything Obama might try to get done from the handicapped harm they have done over the last 8 years. So how will this be spun?

    So far it looks good for Obama.

    A Clear Mandate For Obama
    http://www.forbes.com/topstories/2008/11/04/ele...

    Obama's victory is a mandate for change
    http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/opinio...

    Again I would love to hear anyone's opinion and input.
  • rikyrah · 1 year ago
    It's like it was, I hate to say it, 'divined' this way.

    No disputes. No close. It was like the reward for the hell he's been through for almost 2 years was a profound statement - HE IS THE PRESIDENT.

    Theyv'e already started on the next memo, though:

    Well, NOW he has to govern. And what a mess it is.
  • jelana · 1 year ago
    Rikyrah,
    Don't be afraid to say it. That is exactly what it was. Everything always fell into place for him. Granted, there was work involved, but this was meant for him. There is no other explanation. When it is yours, NO ONE can stop it or take it away from you!
  • Val · 1 year ago
    Kerry: 'Tonight new dreams are born'

    "Tonight we elected a President who has inspired a majority of Americans with his vision and policies, a man who is principally a leader for these times who happens to also be African American; and because of America’s stunning ability to move on and transform, to write a new chapter of our history, Barack Obama will be President during the 50th anniversary of the Civil Rights movement and the 150th anniversary of the Civil War.

    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/04...
  • rorysmomma · 1 year ago
    Please say a prayer for Cindy Mccain guys.... She seriously may make a swan dive, if Mccain doesn't beat her into submission first.
  • Val · 1 year ago
    RAOTFLMAO!


    Rorysmomma - what's happening?
  • rorysmomma · 1 year ago
    Lord val, I just thought about how she just knew she was going to be in the whitehouse. You know it does not take much for some addicts to fall off the wagon.
  • Val · 1 year ago
    RAOTFL! Hysterical!
  • Val · 1 year ago
    Obama Celebrates Election With Victory Album

    Get your album today.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/05/obama-...
  • Val · 1 year ago
    I love the one from Legend - Pride, in the name of love
  • lamh31 · 1 year ago
    I hear from DKos, that Joe Scar is showing is ass again today, but Brian Williams is kinda shutting it down.

    Jealous much Joe!!!


    Suck on it!!!!!
  • Nquest · 1 year ago
    I just watched a segment of Morning Joe where he really showed it. Actually, he was okay and Mika was the one struggling... Both were trying to push this "post-racial" stuff. (And I caught John McWhorter on CNN doing the same in his usual smug manner.)

    Oh but at the mention of Rohm Emmanuel being Obama's Chief of Staff... Joe couldn't let the hate go. Mark Halperin and Dark Sith (?) tried to talk him down and stress Emmanuel's centrist bonafides but Joe was stuck on hate and his ideological issue with him claiming Emmanuel is the Democratic version of Tom Delay and would be seen that way as Chief of Staff by Republicans.

    But what really got them all was the realization that there are no Republican congresspersons in New England with the way the elections turned out from Maine to Connecticut, etc.

    ...............

    Oh and Tucker Carlson is crying his azz off... Bringing up Hillary Clinton ( "she was treated so bad and why are people acting like all of us that didn't vote for Obama are racist or against racial progress" paraphrase).

    Unbelieveable!!!
  • Sepia · 1 year ago
    Oh and Tucker Carlson is crying his azz off... Bringing up Hillary Clinton ( "she was treated so bad and why are people acting like all of us that didn't vote for Obama are racist or against racial progress" paraphrase).

    That was nothing but Tucker Carlson's GUILTY CONSCIENCE rearing its ugly head. Eugene Robinson was too disgusted with his ass, and rightly so. Regardless of who you voted for, you have to acknowledge the historical significance of this election.

    Not voting for Obama doesn't necessarily mean that you're against black achievement, but acting like Tucker Carlson did this morning, saying that we should not be emotional, certainly does.
  • Rhondacoca · 1 year ago
    Yea I saw all of that. I was very annoyed by Mika constantly trying to promote that "post-racial" garbege. People keeping saying that and it is ruining by celebration.
  • iamnotstarjones · 1 year ago
    "I have often said, when she comes on television, I involuntarily cross my legs."

    -Tucker Carlson on Hillary Clinton.
    http://mediamatters.org/items/200707180009

    Methinks the prepster weasel protests too much.
  • JJai · 1 year ago
    Jill Scott said it best when she said Hyperlink to Hate on Me


    Hate on me, hater
    Now or later
    ‘Coz I’m gonna do me
    You’ll be mad, baby
    Go ‘head and hate
    Go ‘head and hate on me, hate on
    ‘Coz I’m not afraid of it

    What I got I paid for
    You can hate on me




    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qw3Z8Oa7E3Y
  • Mona · 1 year ago
    Yesterday was a good day.
    Today is an even better day.
    And I'm excited for tomorrow.
  • OSIRIS1906 · 1 year ago
    Oh, one thing. I've been following this blog for awhile. As an African American Law Enforcement officer who fully endorses Obama. I was really pissed when that Florida Deputy said that Barack Hussien Obama would be in for a rude awakening on the 5th. Looks like the GOP's world just got rocked !!!!!!!!!! Sorry for the gloat you guys !!!! I had to.
  • Miranda · 1 year ago
    OMG! Y'all keep watching the senate race in Georgia! I knew they couldn't hide those early votes! They finally said that there will probably have to be a run-off between the incumbent Saxby Chambliss-R and Jim Martin-D.

    Until an hour ago they were still tripping saying Chambliss was the projected winner even though they hadn't counted the early votes for just TWO counties - well those two counties are the largest two in the state and are overwhelmingly democratic!
  • D. · 1 year ago
    (with apologies to the moderators, as this is the only way I know to reach the rest of the "dissenters" here on JJP)

    Memo to the RNC and Fellow Conservatives
  • Suprk · 1 year ago
    I remember a while back you wrote another piece about what the direction you thought was needed by the RNC. I found it interesting and was not sure if they were willing to go that way. As it appears now, there seems to be a civil war about to happen in the RNC.

    There seems to be the intellectual side ( a section I would place you at) a section where I might disagree with in some parts, but a totally reasonable side that one can debate with. Then there is the Rush Limbaugh / Sarah Palin / Religious Right side. I am curious to see what side wins out, and will they take this election to move to a more reasonable and moderate position.

    A friend wrote a piece somewhere similar to a earlier piece you wrote and I am curious to know what do you think will happen next. His piece was:

    Can the GOP save itself?
    http://www.theyoungturks.com/story/2008/11/2/93...

    I am interested in hearing what you think is the next step or direction they will take, or do you think a third party will emerge from this race soon, or in the near future.
  • D. · 1 year ago
    For that, you have to look at the 2012 election, as the party not in power always makes gains in the midterm elections.

    The GOP has gotta listen to people. That's where it all starts. We've been bashing people's heads in with a message of "compassionate conservatism" that has shown to be neither. The (stereo)typical conservative's problems aren't always the problems of all Americans. Once we've heard from the people, then we can present our beliefs as solutions. But, we have to practice them first, or else we're hypocrites.

    I think that 2012 may be the extreme right's last stand. A McCain/Romney ticket might not have lost as badly as McCain/Palin, but she was needed to secure the far right. I suggested a while back that Palin and Dobson should run together, so we can just get them out of the way.

    We have no grassroots, no strategy, and a presentation problem. If we can fix those issues, the GOP will survive. If not, I could see the Libertarians and more moderate conservatives breaking. Problem is, when Republicans/conservatives break, they're thrown bones to get them back in line (in the form of maintaining our present and future viability).

    We have to learn to throw the bones back, and let the people carry us over.
  • Suprk · 1 year ago
    I last thought because and this is all Monday morning quarterbacking. I seriously believe this election would of been tighter if McCain would of ran more of the McCain in 2000 than he did here. In fact his final speech was more like he was then, than how he had campaign up to that point. The only flaw I see with that, is I do not think the McCain of 2000 would have any chance in the Republican primary.
  • rikyrah · 1 year ago
    thank you, D.

    we are all Americans.
  • D. · 1 year ago
    Contrary to pouplar (conservative) opinion, that we are.
  • rikyrah · 1 year ago
    I know you'd never think you'd get this request from me:

    I need a link to Dubya's Press Conference from today congratulating Obama.

    Thank you in advance.
  • parker404 · 1 year ago
    President Bush's statement was, for once, excellent. Every now and then we're reminded that he actually comes from a classy, somewhat respectable, background. Unlike that PWT Caribou, who showed up to vote yesterday looking like she was on her way to Walmart.
  • D. · 1 year ago
    I've got the transcript, if that will work.

    Though, I think you want video. ;)

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2008/11...
  • Rhondacoca · 1 year ago
    I was in Times Square last night. I brought my younger cousins and my sister and her boyfriend as well as a couple of my girlfriends. It was like New years eve! So exciting. Then I went to a private party. All of Harlem was in the streetsI have the worse hangover right now so I am trying to catch up with everyone on JJP!

    Thanks JJP for your amazing election coverage this year. There is such a great community here=)
  • Rhondacoca · 1 year ago
    I am heading over to the many Nobama websites. Hopefully I can get out safely. Last time I went on those sites, I got my email hacked, I got death threats as well as some other stuff. Forget youtube.
  • Miranda · 1 year ago
    Dammit! My cousin in DC has already promised her spare bedrooms to her sister, MY sister, and three of our other cousins. Gotta work on Plan B.
  • claudia_m · 1 year ago
    Great behind the scenes article at HuffPo:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/05/obama-...

    Read to the end to get Obama's (uncensored) view of the debates!
  • claudia_m · 1 year ago
    Okay, one more link and then back to work! This made me laugh:

    Black Man Given Nation's Worst Job
    http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/bla...

    WASHINGTON—African-American man Barack Obama, 47, was given the least-desirable job in the entire country Tuesday when he was elected president of the United States of America. In his new high-stress, low-reward position, Obama will be charged with such tasks as completely overhauling the nation's broken-down economy, repairing the crumbling infrastructure, and generally having to please more than 300 million Americans and cater to their every whim on a daily basis. As part of his duties, the black man will have to spend four to eight years cleaning up the messes other people left behind. The job comes with such intense scrutiny and so certain a guarantee of failure that only one other person even bothered applying for it. Said scholar and activist Mark L. Denton, "It just goes to show you that, in this country, a black man still can't catch a break."
  • Rhondacoca · 1 year ago
    LOL!! That was funny! Hilarious!
  • RonnieB · 1 year ago
    Did anyone catch Bishop T.D. Jakes on MSNBC last night?
  • Jay · 1 year ago
    I truly enjoy TD Jakes preaching, but I was completely distracted by his lisp (never knew he had one). During the times he was speaking I was reading JJP. lol

    Did he say something that struck a cord with you?
  • RonnieB · 1 year ago
    I was captivated by his eloquence. I could have listened to him all night.

    I could live with the lisp, I suppose.

    I see him as America's new Billy Graham.
  • Rhondacoca · 1 year ago
    Hey JJP, I know you guys are excited but there are too many threads. I don't know where to comment?

    Anyways, I think yesterday broke a record. I havent seen so many grown black men crying in my entire life!!
  • rikyrah · 1 year ago
    thanks Rhonda. I'm going to put up another Wednesday Open Thread.

    I'll contact the bloggers about this. I think we're just happy as can be, and are posting our hearts out. but, point taken.
  • RonnieB · 1 year ago
    Can somebody issue a grown-man Amber alert for Tavis Smiley?
  • jdickenslaw · 1 year ago
    Tavis was on some morning shows, including NBC Today Show and Morning Joe. I turned everytime I saw him. To quote Sylvester the Cat, "he's des-s-s-picable!"
  • Rhondacoca · 1 year ago
    I actually agreed with him when he was on Morning Joe this morning. He was trying to push back on Mika's "post-racial" bliss. He also spoke about the historical significance of Obama's win and how it is just the beginning. Nothing questionable.
  • jdickenslaw · 1 year ago
    Tavis mission in life will cease to exist if we ever enter a "post-racial" society, so he's always going to fight against that. I want to know, why did anyone think we care what he thinks anymore?
  • Nquest · 1 year ago
    Well, both Rhondacoca and I agreed with what he was saying and the fact that his statement, however problematic, was about issues and about "real change" vs. the symbolic... that's why what Tavis said matters.

    I don't give a f-ck if everybody in the world but me sees that point. The fact is: folks criticizing Tavis for being petty are being petty in their reflexive criticisms of Tavis.

    All Black people don't think a like (we all know that) and we've always had varying and often competing visions, even different goals. If all folks care about is having a Black president then, in one sense, it's an insult to the lives, memory and legacy of our ancestors. But maybe that's me... because my Freedom Dreams are bigger.

    I appreciate where we are and how big this is but this isn't the Promise Land many envisioned. Maybe some, maybe even most did. Maybe this is all some could ever conceive of.

    To each his/her own...
  • Nquest · 1 year ago
    I think Tavis really had an issue with sitting next to the Racial Arsonist in Chief (Pat Buchanan) and was just too down on the situation which made it look like it was both personal (ego-driven) and on the serious issue of real, substantive, structural change.
  • TruthSeeker · 1 year ago
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  • rikyrah · 1 year ago
    NEW WEDNESDAY OPEN THREAD IS UP
  • s · 1 year ago
    Just a few thoughts:

    1. I am so glad Obama won this election and proud to witness such a historical moment. I couldn't stop grinning as I walked to work!

    2. Now that he will be the next president, we have to be objective about his position. It will take him awhile (longer than one term i suspect) to clean up the sh*t from the last 8+ years. He WILL make mistakes along the way. As a people, we should hold him responsible for his actions and not give him a free pass based on his color. However, as people we need to support him in positive efforts to make changes, which brings me to my next point.

    3. We have got to come together as people and as a nation. I observed this website for awhile and noticed that Republicans tend to get ripped up one side and down the other in blogs and comments. Alright, enough is enough. Put down the pitchforks and torches and stop picking on each other. We need to remember that this country is special because we are allowed to have different opinions. Remember, there are black Republicans who didn't want Obama in office and their are white Republicans who wanted him to be president. I personally don't care if a Democrat or Republican is in office. I just want someone to fix this mess that's been brewing for last two terms! Obama has a hard road ahead of him and he CAN'T do it by himself. Moses couldn't lead the Israelites unless they rallied behind him as one. Obama can't lead this nation if we don't rally behind him as one.

    4. In accordance with the glass fence that encased Obama while he gave his speech last night, I think he should get his own pope mobile. :P Seriously though, I am praying that we don't have to relive the JFK tragedy...
  • Val · 1 year ago
    S - it's all good.

    As Barack said -- He is YOUR President too.

    I have to add regarding your statement, "As a people, we should hold him responsible for his actions and not give him a free pass based on his color."

    As an FYI - colored people don't get free passes or were you asleep the last 2 years? That is it from me. Moving on. . . . yes we all need to work together to clean up the mess from the last 8 years.
  • the original s · 1 year ago
    Someone took over my screen name.

    I am not responsible for the post above.

    And while I am not grinning and smiling, I am proud to witness this historic moment.

    I would like to take this chance to say that while Obama did not get my vote yesterday, he will get my support. I hope that he will, with time, allay my concerns, that he will NOT be pushed to the left and that he will govern as a moderate.

    Thank you all for the opportunity to express my views and values here at JJP.
    I enjoyed the lively debate, but could have done without the name-calling and verbal abuse.

    Now, with this victory, I hope that those on both sides of the political spectrum can put aside the hatred and vitriol that has consumed our politics for the past 8 years.

    Let's disagree. Let's debate. Let's stand up and fight for what we believe in. But please, let us do so with respect and humility.
  • Rhondacoca · 1 year ago
    HaHaHa...may the real S please stand up!
  • D. · 1 year ago
    Oops.

    I offer my waterboarding service....but ya better find the other "S" before January 20.
  • D. · 1 year ago
    I'm not grinning or smiling; the emotional weight of the last (almost) two years is still wearing off.

    You're right; we do have to come together as a country and put aside the partisanship. The most cynical part of me doesn't think it can happen-at least not immediately. I hope I'm wrong.

    S, me, you, and other Republicans/conservatives have got to find our way again. Yes, we took a beating last night...and already, we've taken to bemoaning the "death of our nation." The Obama Administration-however long it lasts-won't be the death of America. But it sends a damn strong signal of what we have become...and how far we have to go to fix it.

    To the Obama camp: again, congratulations.

    And a warning-Republicans went to Washington and became the embodiment of everything that contradicts our beliefs and values. Don't make the same mistake. That is the one lesson you all can take from the GOP.