Jack and Jill Politics - Latest Comments in Wednesday Open Thread

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jelana — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:10:47 -0000

I once read that there are usually 100 serial killers operating worldwide and that
they only occur in industrialized countries.

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GreenLadyHere13 — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:34:00 -0000

rikyrah: THANKS 4 this!! :>)

I'm CRYIN' - - -AGAIN!!! :>) :>)

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fashionableearth — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:40:11 -0000

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rikyrah — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:21:26 -0000

AFTERNOON OPEN THREAD IS UP

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Guns3000 — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:56:09 -0000

Yeah, I know that but the author of that bullshit article obviously wouldn't.

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Miranda — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:32:04 -0000

I thought Pat Boone was dead...apparently its just his brain. Who knew you could still walk around without an active one?

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Mothsmoke — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:09:40 -0000

Friedman has a pretty good piece on this today. http://www.nytimes.com/2009...

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Shazza — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:07:47 -0000

I loved hearing Town break it down. I saw this:
By the end of his campaign, Deeds was running ads attacking Obama’s clean energy agenda, saying Obama’s “cap and trade bill” would “hurt the people of Virginia.” Other ads carried the same message: “Creigh Deeds says no to any new energy taxes from Washington.” Instead of disputing his Republican opponent’s false attacks on climate legislation, Deeds amplified them. Deeds chose to run away from his past record on environment and climate issues.

http://thinkprogress.org/20...

And much like you said, Town, I heard Roland Martin & Tom Joyner this morning blaming black folk AND Obama for these Dems not winning. And speculating over whether Obama could win TODAY. Their memories are pretty short. Obama can't carry everybody, THEY have to appeal to voters too.
I'm willing to bet that if the healthcare bill was passed and the troops started coming home before Election Day, the Dems would've swept.

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Town — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:59:02 -0000

Well that's because we all know Christians are white and Republican.

Only Real Americans(tm) are Christians.

Jesus was a Real American(tm), too.

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Town — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:56:44 -0000

I can't speak to NJ but as far as VA is concerned, Mark Warner, Tim Kaine and Barack Obama wrote the roadmap to winning Virginia. All you have to do is follow the roadmap to the win. Virginia is not a "blue" state, Virginia is a red state with blue polka-dots so a flaming progressive/liberal isn't likely to win. But as we saw last night, neither is a Republican-lite.

There is an L-shaped crescent of the state that you MUST win and run up the score if you want to win statewide office. Deeds did not do that, he even lost FAIRFAX. If you lose Fairfax you might as well pack your shit and go home.

It appears from the voter turnout that it was much the same as it was in 2005, when Deeds lost to McDonnell by 325 votes. They are saying the Republican vote total was pretty much the same as last year's, which means Deeds lost the 200K votes he had in 2005 to McDonnell.

You need to spend 2/3 of your time in the 95/64 Crescent and pump those people up. Yes, campaign in other parts of the state, but run up the score in the 95/64 Crescent. Deeds didn't and now he's a Dud.

He lost FAIRFAX!

It's not that black people didn't get out and vote...a whole lot of white people didn't vote or they switched their vote to McDonnell.

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RobM — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:49:42 -0000

You do know Norway has a huge Somali population.

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RobM — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:48:19 -0000

I know little about VA but any Progressive saying NJ was lost because of the President is full of it. The structural governance problems of NJ are legendary. The people will not give up their local government so they have to much. Northern Jersey near NYC is like Conn you just roll from one town to the next like you cross the street in any big city. so they pay ridiculous taxes and service fees all through property tax. corzine is probably happy he isn't governor.

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Guest — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:32:03 -0000

"Republicans have a whopping two seats"
exactly.

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RobM — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:28:07 -0000

Stop making Sense

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Guest — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:28:05 -0000

Myth the two democratic candidates sucked canal water. They made no effort to woo minority voters. They had no clear agenda or message regarding what they intended to do for anybody. Just because you are a democrat doesn't mean folks/minorities/blacks will turn out in droves to vote for you. I can't speak for anyone else but you have to EARN my vote. Give me a reason to pull the lever for you. You don't feel it's important to expend energy to solicit my support, well I sure as hell won't expend energy or waste gas money to support you.

Besides, if I recall correctly Obama won the election because of independents NOT democrats and PO worked his as* off and earned the win. Why should it be any different for those two men? They deserved to lose and their loss has nothing to do with the President or his administration. They did their job. They won their race. If the thought is that PO is responsible for EVERY democratic loss then why are tax payers wasting money paying those people if the President is solely responsible and is accountable for everything?

This should serve as a wake up call that Dems can't take anything or any vote for granted. They have to work for it and they better do right in the eyes of their constituents

Hey just curious, why do you surmise that AAs are the reason for the loss and it wasn't a collective thing (mix of races didn't turn out for those candidates)?

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RobM — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:14:18 -0000

The article is right about one thing you can't accomplish much when you have small minded people. President obama should take that to heart when he looks at advisors like Rahmbo and Fredo whom are small minded and shilling for people other than the President.

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CPL — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 12:59:35 -0000

screw an apology - where is this mofo's pink slip?

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CPL — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 12:58:53 -0000

Tell it, Ron.

As Harry Truman always said, "If it comes down to voting for a Fake Republican or a real one, the people will go with the Real Republican."

Same principle applies, and the Blue Dogs STILL DON'T GET IT.

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CPL — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 12:57:32 -0000

Cost that mofo the election, LOL.

I bet there won't be any other officials hollering about how Glen Beck is their mentor.

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CPL — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 12:56:06 -0000

I knew McAuliffe was going to eff things up when he jumped in during the primaries. Rat Bastard.

Now he just insured that Virginia is going to be phucked up for the next four years, and we'll need to elect back to back Democrats to clean up the shyt McDonnell is going to leave behind.

And yeah, Deeds went the "winnable Democrat" route and lost big time. He should have had Howard Dean all over Virginia, but noooooo, he allowed McAuliffe to suck the life out of the party.

Didn't learn from the strategy that put Obama in the White House just over a year ago, did they? McAuliffe ain't won shyt since Bill Clinton got elected in 1992, and that was because Clinton did his own thing during the elections.

Virginia is going to be FUBAR....thanks McAuliffe and Deeds.

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CPL — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 12:48:05 -0000

That Randall Miller-El case went before the Supreme Court and they ruled in his favor, 8-1, that the Dallas County DAs were rigging the juries towards biases in sentencing brothas and Latino brothas.

I don't need to tell you who wrote the lone dissenting opinion, do I? This case was so racist, even Fat Tony Scalia concurred with the majority.

If these guys win, Texas will have to overhaul their own judicial system just to be constitutional.

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CPL — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 12:45:56 -0000

You can count on Unca Clarence to write the dissenting brief or opinion because these guys are brothas challenging the judicial system.

It's times like these when I wish that bastard had to face Lani Guinier sitting across from him on the bench.

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CPL — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 12:44:11 -0000

The second coming of John Wayne Gacy, but the Po-Po too busy locking up POC for cutting the lines at Wal-Mart.

*spits and kicks the cat off the porch in anger* (will apologize to Fluffy when she comes back for her afternoon snack)

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CPL — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 12:42:12 -0000

Someone needs to ask Pat Boone just how "Christian" his manifesto is, and make him respond right on the air.

All these "Christians" are coming out of the woodwork and praying for the POTUS' death, just like they nailed Jesus to the Cross and thought they were in the right.

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zackboston — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 12:11:27 -0000

These folks are part of a master's program in Urban Environmental Leadership. Environmental Justice claims that everyone has the right to live in a place with clean air, clean water, access to housing, healthy food and transportation.

Low income and especially People of Color live in neighborhoods that bear the disproportionate burden of toxics --- siting of waste transfer and bus depots, brownfields, etc. --- and a lack of some of the good things in society like parks, public transportation and even grocery stores. The main thing I am trying to get across to my future leaders is that people from the communities need to be represented at decisionmaking tables and that their voices and expertise needs to be respected. It's this lack of community representation and respect in city and state governmental bodies that leads to environmental racism in our communities.