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Re: Wednesday Open Thread - Speak your mind

rikyrah — Thu, 15 May 2008 02:20:00 -0000

not buying it either, truthseeker. not in the least.

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TruthSeeker — Wed, 14 May 2008 23:35:00 -0000

On Huffington, I found this dead on comment on how Lanny would respond to the Edwards endorment

FogBelter

Has Lanny Davis chimed in on this endorsement? He would probably say something like ...

--Now everyone knows the respect I have for Senator Obama, but lets be clear here ... just because Senator Edwards stands beside him at a gathering of four or five people and says nice things ... maybe even invokes the word "endorse" itself ... that doesn't need to be considered as an official "endorsement" of Senator Obama ... I know ... I know ... there are a lot of passionate Obama supporters who may ... think ... they heard an endorsement, but from where I am sitting here ... and what I observed ... I would be hard pressed to see an endorsement in Senator Edwards drop by in Michigan ... I respect Senator Obama, you know I do, but we are playing semantic games here when we should be focusing on Senator Clinton's 41 point victory in West Virginia ... and one more thing ...--

Re: Wednesday Open Thread - Speak your mind

TruthSeeker — Wed, 14 May 2008 21:12:00 -0000

..Not buying that.

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Anna — Wed, 14 May 2008 20:56:00 -0000

An ABC survey says that 59% of African-Americans would like to see Hillary as the VP candidate on the Democratic ticket? How can that be?

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rikyrah — Wed, 14 May 2008 20:43:00 -0000

The Amazing Money Machine

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TruthSeeker — Wed, 14 May 2008 20:06:00 -0000

Just saw this on the Hillary blog comment section. I don't thing it was covered by the MSM..they were busy reporting on the Edwards Endorsement! HA:

6:15 p.m. TONIGHT: Members of Congress To Hold Press Conference On Hillary’s Strong Pro-Choice Record

Clinton National Campaign Co-Chair Congresswoman Stephanie Tubbs Jones and other Members of Congress will hold a press conference at 6:15 p.m. EDT tonight to discuss Hillary Clinton’s strong pro-choice record.

Members voicing their support today for Clinton’s advocacy on behalf of a woman’s right to choose include, Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones, Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee, Rep. Nita Lowey, Rep. Jane Harman, Rep. Diane Watson, Rep. Diana DeGette, Rep. Doris Matsui, Rep. Laura Richardson, Rep. Carolyn Maloney, Rep. Louise Slaughter, Rep. Allyson Schwartz, Rep. Kirsten Gillibrand, Rep. Corrine Brown, Rep. Yvette Clarke, Rep. Darlene Hooley, Rep. Lucille Roybal-Allard, Rep. Linda Sanchez, Rep. Tammy Baldwin, Rep. Carolyn McCarthy, Rep. Hilda Solis, Rep. Nydia Velazquez, Rep. Betty Sutton, Rep. Grace Napolitano and Rep. Shelley Berkley.

Wednesday, May 14

6:15 p.m. EDT

Members of Congress Discuss Hillary’s Strong Pro-Choice Record

Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee

Second Floor Conference Room

430 South Capitol Street

Washington, DC

Re: Wednesday Open Thread - Speak your mind

Val — Wed, 14 May 2008 20:00:00 -0000

honey01. Yes I saw that. I didn't know whether to . . . umm let me let it go. I agree with you Chris Matthews blew me away. I didn't expect him of all people to be the voice of reason either.

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Honey01 — Wed, 14 May 2008 19:37:00 -0000

Anybody watching MSNBC? Pat Buchannan just lost his marbles again. He has been moderately tame the last couple of weeks. They just kinds let him go off on 15 minute tangent (Black people are only voting for Obama because he is Black, West Virginians are not racist, Geraldine Ferarro was right, yada yada). I never thought I would live to see the day where Chris Matthews would be the "voice of reason" just now in a three way conversation between Matthews, Buchanan, and Andrea Mitchell.

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Val — Wed, 14 May 2008 18:16:00 -0000

Truthseeker - last night her campaign manager alluded to the fact that it would probably go to the convention. So you are right on that.

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Val — Wed, 14 May 2008 18:12:00 -0000

Ok I found the guidance re. helping to pay off campaign debts for opponents. *Obama has not said he would do this btw. Media spin at this point.

Obama cannot under federal law assume direct responsibility for Clinton's debts because that would amount to an illegal contribution, far above contribution limits.

There are, however, a number of other alternatives. Obama could, for example, send out a solicitation in Clinton's behalf to his own donors and to other donor lists, asking for contributions to be directed to her campaign. He could, in addition, hold a joint fundraiser with the money

Re: Wednesday Open Thread - Speak your mind

TruthSeeker — Wed, 14 May 2008 17:51:00 -0000

With Edwards' endorsement maybe more supers will not only endorse but switch to Obama by week's end to nullify any designs Hillary has on seating FL & MI or changing the delegates to 2210. Even so, she'll still take it to the Convention under the pretense that delegates can change their minds.

I am sure she will NEVER drop out. This is going to the convention and even after that, she will continue to make trouble. I don't know how Dems didn't see this coming.

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Teacher — Wed, 14 May 2008 17:43:00 -0000

Rules posted on Daily Kos:

Joint Fundraising Notice

General Rule

In addition to any notice required under "Disclaimer Notices on Communications" and "Solicitation Notices," participants must include a joint fundraising notice with every solicitation for contributions. The notice must contain the following information:

• The names of all participants, regardless of whether they are registered political committees or unregistered organizations;

• The allocation formula;

• A statement informing contributors that they may designate contributions for a particular participant; and

• A statement that the allocation formula may change if any contributor makes a contribution that exceeds the amount he or she may lawfully give to any participant. 102.17(c)(2)(i).

Special Situations

In two situations, participants must include additional information in the joint fundraising notice:

• If a participant is engaging in the joint fundraiser to pay off outstanding debts, the notice must state that the allocation formula may change if the participant receives enough funds to pay its debts. (emphasis mine)

• If, under State law, any unregistered participant is permitted to receive contributions prohibited under the Act, the notice must say that such contributions will be given only to participants that may legally accept them. 102.17(c)(2)(ii

Re: Wednesday Open Thread - Speak your mind

TruthSeeker — Wed, 14 May 2008 17:42:00 -0000

Yeah, it's pretty ugly over on the NARAL board. I posted a positive comment...It looked so tiny and lonesome LOL

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texas girl in l.a. — Wed, 14 May 2008 17:41:00 -0000

teacher,

I was just about to post that for you. I was just reading it over at dailykos

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Teacher — Wed, 14 May 2008 17:37:00 -0000

OK. I read more asbout it on Daily Kos Dean's press release says:

"The fund will allow both candidates to raise money for the Party, forming one joint fundraising committee account that will accept money for the nominee’s primary and general election and for the DNC."

and I feel better. It's "allegedly" for the DNC, which is low on $.

Edwards is endorsing Obama! I'm glad he has the spine to show some leadership. It's hard for me to understand that if they are really for the success and progress of the party, why won't they show more leadership. I think the floodgates will open after the final contest on June 3rd. KKKlinton insists that Fl & MI be seated just the way they voted. Why don't white people consider her to be a cheater? Marion Jones is in jail for cheating, and Barry Bond is being continuously harassed...Why is it ok for KKKlinton to cheat and not be censured by the party? I'm not going to be able to donate to them to cheat Black people, even if he is going to win in spite of it. I think I'm going to email them and let them know.

And as far as Obama not wanting us to support 528's or whatever the right # is, I understand him and I disagree. They are going to tell scurrilous lies about him. I think there needs to be someone to tell the TRUTH about McCryptkeeper.

Re: Wednesday Open Thread - Speak your mind

Val — Wed, 14 May 2008 17:36:00 -0000

Good read.

1) John Edwards will endorse Barack Obama.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/14/john-edwards-endorsing-ob_n_101749.html

2) GOP Adviser: This is '94 in Reverse. We're Pathetic

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/14/gop-adviser-this-is-94-in_n_101756.html

Re: Wednesday Open Thread - Speak your mind

Val — Wed, 14 May 2008 17:30:00 -0000

Regarding the Obama Clinton fundrasing thing -- He cannot give Senator Clinton money donated to his campaign. That is the law. So don't worry your money cannot be transferred to her. The can ask him to ask his supporters to send her donations which is entirely voluntary or he can help her schedule some type of fundraiser on her behalf. Again -- he can ask his supporters to help her out. But he is not able to give her any money donated to him. I will see if I can find that specific rule and will post.

Re: Wednesday Open Thread - Speak your mind

Val — Wed, 14 May 2008 17:26:00 -0000

All - NARAL just endorsed Senator Obama for President and the Clinton supporters are pitching a ROYAL fit. They could use some positive posts right about now. It is REALLY bad. Get the word out if you can.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nancy-keenan/why-naral-pro-choice-amer_b_101708.html

Re: Wednesday Open Thread - Speak your mind

TruthSeeker — Wed, 14 May 2008 16:57:00 -0000

teacher,

I think that deal is between the DNC and each campaign. I believe the funds will be separate...but someone who knows for sure can confirm.

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Teacher — Wed, 14 May 2008 16:32:00 -0000

Friends, please help me calm down. I just heard on cnn that Howard Dean is prepared to announce a joint fundraising plan between the Obama and kkklinton campaigns. Then they show her continuing to talk about how she isn't going anywhere....Wolf Blitzer is interviewing her and she commented how she (my paraphrase) thinks Obama is too idealistic or doesn't know how it the system works. she said you can't just go hold hands and hope that things happen. What an insult! I'm afraid I won't be donating to Obama any longer if she is going to get any of the $.I understand that he has to do what he has to do, and I have to do what I have to do. If she ends up as his VP, I'm truly done. I'm going to email his website. What a bummer!

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Jonzee — Wed, 14 May 2008 16:27:00 -0000

Is President Bill Clinton channeling former Alabama Governor George Wallace...

I have always wondered, but after reading this analysis, it's hard to doubt it.

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D. — Wed, 14 May 2008 16:07:00 -0000

Val,
I'm just curious.

Truth,

I don't care who's doing it. That sort of personal information shouldn't be compromised.

By ANY candidate.

Re: Wednesday Open Thread - Speak your mind

TruthSeeker — Wed, 14 May 2008 16:00:00 -0000

d,

you ask a lot of questions but never answer any. I want to know what it says about Barack that people in UK, Canada, France, the Netherlands, Republicans, Hillary supporters use his phonebank tool?

Re: Wednesday Open Thread - Speak your mind

Val — Wed, 14 May 2008 15:59:00 -0000

I wouldn't know. Rev Wright is not running for the President of the United States and is free to do whatever he sees fit. That is what makes this country great.

Re: Wednesday Open Thread - Speak your mind

D. — Wed, 14 May 2008 15:41:00 -0000

What's this about?

Jeremiah Wright's 'Trumpet'