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Re: Well, He Wouldn’t Have Been My Endorser: Rendell Praises Farrakhan

Craig Hickman — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 07:59:00 -0000

Saw the Rendell remarks. He's a piece of work.

I love how every Republican pundit is piling on the morning networks to promote Hillary and raise questions about Obama.

It's so blatant I wonder if people get it and vote against it.

Re: Well, He Wouldn’t Have Been My Endorser: Rendell Praises Farrakhan

Craig Hickman — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 00:49:00 -0000

rikyrah, what did Rendell say? That video has been removed by the user.

Re: Well, He Wouldn’t Have Been My Endorser: Rendell Praises Farrakhan

rikyrah — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 23:07:00 -0000

DailyKos post on Hillpatine/Countdown

Hillpatine on Countdown

PS- This whole Middle Eastern Version of NATO is insane.

Re: Well, He Wouldn’t Have Been My Endorser: Rendell Praises Farrakhan

rikyrah — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 23:00:00 -0000

Rendell Disrespects Obama's Voters

Rendell Disrespects Obama Voters

Re: Well, He Wouldn’t Have Been My Endorser: Rendell Praises Farrakhan

Texas Girl in L.A. — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 22:01:00 -0000

Did anyone catch HRC on Olberman?

I didn't watch it. Any thoughts?

Re: Well, He Wouldn’t Have Been My Endorser: Rendell Praises Farrakhan

Angela — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 21:43:00 -0000

I just watched Dan Abrams at MSNBC and he bought up the Rendell tape...
I didn't catch it all.

anyone....?????

Re: Well, He Wouldn’t Have Been My Endorser: Rendell Praises Farrakhan

rikyrah — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:40:00 -0000

It's probably standard campaigning 101 - Don't give the opponent any free press whatsoever; keep the focus on you.

This is possible.

Although, I personally think it speaks of her disrespectful, condescending and dismissive attitude towards Obama, his supporters and everything that he's achieved and stands for.

I agree with you. She has disrespected him...she's pissed that this 'Uppity Negro' is challenging and beating her.

I honestly think she still feels like she's the frontrunner. . . like this is all some phase that the country will grow out of.

I know...she cracks me up...she IS that delusional. She's going to save the voters from themselves.

Re: Well, He Wouldn’t Have Been My Endorser: Rendell Praises Farrakhan

rikyrah — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:37:00 -0000

Craig,

I was just coming here to post about Bubba's comments disparaging the Democrats system and praising the GOP's.

Re: Well, He Wouldn’t Have Been My Endorser: Rendell Praises Farrakhan

GoldenAh — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:02:00 -0000

WSJ has an interesting article on Obama.

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Billary has gone from inevitable to kitchen sink desperado. She was supposed to win this easily, even the Repubs were counting on it. She's the one with name recognition, and formerly 20+ point lead. Her kitchen sink tactics only increase her negatives.

I do believe she will take her fight to the convention. I believe she will support (or is supporting) McCain: that's the message to her supporters.

She's a bitter one. I can't see Billary supporting Obama in the GE.

Re: Well, He Wouldn’t Have Been My Endorser: Rendell Praises Farrakhan

Ms.Martin — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:00:00 -0000

MSNBC is talking about the numbers of crowds in Philly for Obama.

Re: Well, He Wouldn’t Have Been My Endorser: Rendell Praises Farrakhan

B-Serious — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:29:00 -0000

why does she hardly ever refer to him by name? its always "my opponent" or "some people"

@amy,

It's probably standard campaigning 101 - Don't give the opponent any free press whatsoever; keep the focus on you.

Although, I personally think it speaks of her disrespectful, condescending and dismissive attitude towards Obama, his supporters and everything that he's achieved and stands for.

I honestly think she still feels like she's the frontrunner. . . like this is all some phase that the country will grow out of.

Re: Well, He Wouldn’t Have Been My Endorser: Rendell Praises Farrakhan

TruthSeeker — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:27:00 -0000

She doesn't refer to him by name to dehumanize him. Same reason she wouldn't publicly congratulate him on his wins. All this gives her audience permission to do the same.

Jack Kingsston referred to Obama as "the guy" and Michelle as "the wife" on a Fox interview. It's the Republican playbook.

The Democratic party is playing with fire. Each time there's rumbling about putting an end to the race, Clinton surrogates come out and start the fast talking. They say "WE" have a long way to go for all votes to count...they lull democrats into a false sense of security...until the next attack. Democrats better figure out a strategic way to save the party, because Hillary has no boundaries.

Re: Well, He Wouldn’t Have Been My Endorser: Rendell Praises Farrakhan

amy — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:08:00 -0000

why does she hardly ever refer to him by name? its always "my opponent" or "some people"

Re: Well, He Wouldn’t Have Been My Endorser: Rendell Praises Farrakhan

Craig Hickman — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:38:00 -0000

Because Nixon doesn't care about being damaged.

She only cares about stopping Obama.

Whatever it takes.

Know that she's doing robo-calls that lie about Obama's gun control ideas and repeating the "I don't want her punished by a baby."

I don't know who listens to robo-calls in this day and age, but still...

An Obama supporter said Obama was doing better in Allentown then people would expect. Scranton, too. (That's why Hillary went back there today...)

I wonder if the cell phones and laptops stolen from Obama's Allentown headquarters have anything to do with those robo-calls.

Re: Well, He Wouldn’t Have Been My Endorser: Rendell Praises Farrakhan

Angela — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:25:00 -0000

A commenter on the Obama website said they had called MSNBC and was told they have known about this tape all day and then the commenter got caught off when he asked why it wasn't being reported.

I saw this matter commented on the Philadelphia Inquirer blog also.

Craig, why would this be a Clinton leak if it can damage her?

Re: Well, He Wouldn’t Have Been My Endorser: Rendell Praises Farrakhan

amy — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:23:00 -0000

no worries, keith olbermann will undoubtedly raise the issue on his show with her tonight

Re: Well, He Wouldn’t Have Been My Endorser: Rendell Praises Farrakhan

RhondaCoca — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 17:56:00 -0000

Truthtopower-

I had mentioned that above, Jack Kemp (R) also. Thanx for the video.

Both Liberman and Rendell are Jewish.

Re: Well, He Wouldn’t Have Been My Endorser: Rendell Praises Farrakhan

Craig Hickman — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 17:34:00 -0000

I can't wait to write a book about this election cycle.

It is truly original.

Re: Well, He Wouldn’t Have Been My Endorser: Rendell Praises Farrakhan

Craig Hickman — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 17:31:00 -0000

President Clinton thinks the system which nominated him for president is crazy and the Republican primary system is better because it's more like the electoral college. I guess he forgot that the winner-take-all systems disenfranchise a whole slew of voters in almost every state.

ABC News' Eloise Harper reports: Former President Bill Clinton, speaking to reporters after his wife’s event in Pittsburgh, PA Monday, said that under the republican primary system –- his wife would be ahead by hundreds of delegates.

"I did not actually get the delegates necessary to have a first power of the nomination under the crazy system the democrats have," Clinton said. "If we were under the republican system which is more like the electoral college, she would have a 300 delegate lead ...It's an eternity 'til the general election, an eternity."

Bill bashes Democrats

It looks more and more likely the Nixons are setting themselves up to run with John McCain, destroying Obama and the Democratic party as much as possible before the primary season ends.

Re: Well, He Wouldn’t Have Been My Endorser: Rendell Praises Farrakhan

truthToPower — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 17:22:00 -0000

Looks like Joe Lieberman also had Friends who were Friends with Min. Farrakhan.

He actually said he respected Farrakhan.

Here's the video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_Vm_4e-QpA

Re: Well, He Wouldn’t Have Been My Endorser: Rendell Praises Farrakhan

RhondaCoca — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 17:17:00 -0000

I agree Craig, she strives on manipulation and divisions.

Re: Well, He Wouldn’t Have Been My Endorser: Rendell Praises Farrakhan

Craig Hickman — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 17:10:00 -0000

I think that this was yet another Clinton leak. They put out the bait and the "liberal activists" bit. Me included.

Here's the thing: NO ONE is going to shun her for her association to Rendell, despite his praise for Farrakhan. That's what white privilege gets you.

But when people dig further into this, and in Philadelphia, they won't need to because they remember the violence that preceded this, read the articles posted here, there are two things that stand out:

1) Rendell praised Farrakhan. Clinton and Russert pinned Obama into a corner to denounce and reject Farrakhan. She's trying to whittle away at Obama's Black vote in Philly.

2) In the NY times article, the closing paragraphs tell the story the Nixon campaign is trying to put forth: Blacks and Irish Catholics fear each other so much, they kill each other. That will bolster her vote among Irish Catholics in the area. Bringing up an old wound is genius. It reminds me of Hitler's tactics.

This is all part of the kitchen sink. With a bit of nuance.

It's Hillary Rodham Nixon at her ruthless and cynical best.

Re: Well, He Wouldn’t Have Been My Endorser: Rendell Praises Farrakhan

RhondaCoca — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 16:47:00 -0000

Roland Martin was talking about this on Michael Baisden so hopefully he is on later and will bring it up.

Re: Well, He Wouldn’t Have Been My Endorser: Rendell Praises Farrakhan

RhondaCoca — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 16:38:00 -0000

This is frustrating lexusoakland, I agree. This is the governor of Pennsylvania!! They have their big primary tommorow shouldn't they know this about their governor since they people have been trying for months to tie down Obama with Farrakhan. Shouldn't Hillary be asked to denounce and reject Rendell?? Didnt she suggest that Obama do that?? Shouldn't she jump on this and practice what she preaches.

I was reading about this on AC360 blog. I hope Anderson Cooper covers this tonight. I am hoping that the late shows pick it up.

A prime example of hypocrisy.

P.S. McCain is pandering the Alabama blacks.

Re: Well, He Wouldn’t Have Been My Endorser: Rendell Praises Farrakhan

TruthSeeker — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 16:35:00 -0000

If Barack talked about it, it would be on the MSM. But, he's not like Hillary.