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Re: What Barack Obama owes Clarence Thomas?

fathead123 — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 13:11:21 -0000

I believe Clarence Thomas did well in serving race relations. Sure, Obama owes Thomas some credit, but credit also goes to a lot other African Americans who have paved the way. Obama overcame a race barrier to the Presidency that has never been achieved before.

Re: What Barack Obama owes Clarence Thomas?

Charles — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 12:55:52 -0000

As a farmer once said " they or him,Clarence Thomas ;"They run with the hounds while
pretending friendship and brotherhood with the rabbits." Like Thomas; When Black-White Conservative alignments occur, Black Conservatives becomes a liability to Blacks
and ab asset to Whites. This puts Black people in serious danger.

Re: What Barack Obama owes Clarence Thomas?

rikyrah — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 22:37:57 -0000

I agree with you on this, NMP. As I said before, I'm not willing to give Uncle Clarence ANYTHING.

Re: What Barack Obama owes Clarence Thomas?

GreenLadyHere — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 20:32:46 -0000

Hearts: Co-signing!

Re: What Barack Obama owes Clarence Thomas?

heartsandflowers — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 17:52:07 -0000

Obama would 'owe' Thomas if House Negros ruled the world. Is the guy that wrote this piece a Republican? Or friend of the Bushes? To discount Thurgood Marshall is deliberate AND insulting. Thomas has always seemed ashamed of being Black imo. He's married to a white woman. He sexually harassed the esteemed Dr. Anita Hill [and I'm sure other women]. He has not done ANYTHING to help Black people and EVERYTHING to elevate himself. He is the antithesis of Obama.

Re: What Barack Obama owes Clarence Thomas?

Val2 — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 17:30:00 -0000

oh forgot to answer the question. he owes Clarence -- nothing.

Re: What Barack Obama owes Clarence Thomas?

Val2 — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 17:29:07 -0000

Barack owes his ascendancy God, his Mother and grandparents, and his wife and family for their continued loving support.

Re: What Barack Obama owes Clarence Thomas?

Coby_D — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 14:13:30 -0000

Barack owes his ascendancy to those "first blacks" who paved the way for him.

Justice Thomas doesn't fit into that category, as his nomination to the SC was to replace another black justice.

Re: What Barack Obama owes Clarence Thomas?

Sombody_took_my_username — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 13:24:17 -0000

Blush.

Keep commenting, I'm looking forward to you knocking D off the 'top commenters' page.

Re: What Barack Obama owes Clarence Thomas?

Pamela — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 12:41:21 -0000

I'd be more persuaded if Mr. Fulwood had pointed to any actions by Mr. Thomas that had benefited Mr. Obama. The hearings were Clarence Thomas being acted upon (being appointed, being humiliated). If Fulwood had stuck to Colin Powell and Condoleeza Rice, ok. But Clarence Thomas? Unh uh. (I say this without hatin' on brother Thomas.)

Re: What Barack Obama owes Clarence Thomas?

Justin Pugh — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 12:38:37 -0000

Barack Obama doesn't owe Clarence Thomas anything...

Re: What Barack Obama owes Clarence Thomas?

dwhite10701 — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 12:32:05 -0000

Right. And we learned a valuable lesson from that.

Re: What Barack Obama owes Clarence Thomas?

PTCruiser — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 12:14:08 -0000

"You can't disown a drunkard uncle because of his ailment."

Yes, you can if his problems result in him abusing your aunt, cousins, other relatives or you. I once told my paternal grandfather that although I was related to a first cousin, I did not consider him to be part of my family. Black folks like to forgive too much even if the transgressor does not apologize, repent or make restitution to his victims.

Re: What Barack Obama owes Clarence Thomas?

Sepia — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 11:57:38 -0000

Well said! :-)

Re: What Barack Obama owes Clarence Thomas?

Sepia — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 11:56:04 -0000

But there has never been a question about whether or not "world leaders" would accept a Black US President. The question was always are AMERICANS ready for a Black President.

And while the world leaders saw two black faces sitting across from them, they knew who was REALLY in charge.

Re: What Barack Obama owes Clarence Thomas?

Town — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 11:31:10 -0000

To that, I would say that if that's the case, Obama would owe George H.W. Bush, not George W. Bush because Bush I is the one who brought Colin Powell to the stage in the first place, as well as appointed Justice Thomas. And we can take it a step back and say that had Johnson not appointed Thurgood Marshall in the first place, Bush I wouldn't have appointed Thomas to be his replacement, so Obama would really have owed Lyndon Johnson. But Johnson nor Kennedy probably would have done what they did on civil rights had MLK not been there with his non-violent movement shaming the United States on a world stage, so the person Obama really owes is not Clarence Thomas or George W. Bush, but Martin Luther King, Jr....who showed the entire world, not just the United States, how a black man in power can really be seen.

Besides, wasn't MLK Jr. a Republican, too? {snicker}

Re: What Barack Obama owes Clarence Thomas?

NMP — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 10:51:18 -0000

Revisionist history? At the time, the vast majority of African Americans DID support Thomas' confirmation. That's would rendered the Democratic opposition impotent.

Re: What Barack Obama owes Clarence Thomas?

NMP — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 10:49:50 -0000

"wielding" may be a subjective term, but there is no disputing that the face that world leaders have seen sitting across from them the last 7 1/2 years has been Black. THAT has made it possible for Senator Obama to avoid what would have been the overarching question of his campaign, "are world leaders ready to accept a Black US President?"

Re: What Barack Obama owes Clarence Thomas?

NMP — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 10:47:11 -0000

Clarence Thomas? NO! George Bush? YES! As much as we disdain George Bush's policies--and we should--we have to admit that his appointment of both Colin Powell and Condoleeza Rice has helped paved the way for Senator Obama. Yes, the question still remains is America ready for a Black President, but NO ONE is asking is the international community ready for a Black President in large part due the fact that the face of international affairs for the most powerful country on Earth the last 7 1/2 years has been a Black man and woman. Before that, the same Black man was head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. If I had to point to one person Senator Obama owes, as crazy as it may sound, it would have to be George Bush.

Re: What Barack Obama owes Clarence Thomas?

CraigHickman — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 10:31:54 -0000

Jesse Jackson gets props for his 1988 run. He ran on a message of Hope and won some primaries. Barack ran on a message of Hope and secured the nomination.

We can say whatever we want about JJ, but without him...

Re: What Barack Obama owes Clarence Thomas?

Admiral_Komack — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 10:30:25 -0000

Barack Obama don't owe Clarence Thomas a damn thing.

Re: What Barack Obama owes Clarence Thomas?

msmartin — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 10:29:19 -0000

yep.

Re: What Barack Obama owes Clarence Thomas?

Sepia — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 10:15:53 -0000

Is this guy serious? He just totally overlooked Thurgood Marshall!

And since when has Thomas, Powell and Rice "wielded global power"? Thomas is controlled by Scalia and The Unholy Trinity of Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz and Cheney undermined both Powell and Rice. That's not wielding power, that's being a puppet!

Re: What Barack Obama owes Clarence Thomas?

dwhite10701 — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 09:52:19 -0000

I think Clarence Thomas helped black people mature politically. We now no longer support someone just because he's black. We learned what Thurgood Marshall tried to tell us, that a black snake is just as bad as a white snake.

Re: What Barack Obama owes Clarence Thomas?

rikyrah — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 09:28:20 -0000

RonnieB,

check the Saturday Open Thread. Another poster had the same question, and I believe someone answered it.