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mikefromtexas
Everytime I hear one of her speeches that are really arguments to the superdelegates, I think this bitch is crazy, does she really think she is going to win without the black vote.
That is the jest of it, she does not have the black vote. She ran off the black vote while appealing to the racist mentality of of some white voters.
The woman is evil.
She's still saying that Obama can't win even though he's kicking the shit out of her.
Not only is he winning but he won with a strategy that she didn't see coming, he's managing a better campaign, raising more money and drawing more crowds, yet she's still saying he can't win.
If I could just see her I would have to tell her how dispicable she is.
The Democratic party is playing with fire. I guess the Republicans and Bush haven't put their di*ks far enough up their asses yet. As a matter of fact, I will say the same for those so-called blue collar white /appalacian
voters...whatever category they fall into.
Today I was thinking that Hillary has morphed herself into John Edwards, the champion of the poor. Then a sec ago a pundit said the same thing. Serves John right, he sat on his hands and allowed Hillary to play body snatchers with his message.
In her speech tonight, she said she's been fighting for the downtrodden all her life! LOL
And his surrogates like Donna Brazile have been race-baiting 24/7 since Iowa, starting with the laughable "outrage" over Bill Clinton calling Obama a "kid". Yeah, that was really a "racist" thing to say. LOL.
Poor Barack? You mean the Democratic nominee for President of the United States of America who will be your president.
Ha Ha!
Obama should've been vetted before the primaries instead of during them...
did you see the last Couric interview? Hillary said that the AA vote would be unified with her as nominee because they'd take a hard look at McCain not voting for MLK holiday and vote democrat. HA!
Tonight in her speech, she made a point to relate a story about an AA woman volunteer..she was careful to say the woman's race. The implication is that she still has a chance with black people.
Obama pulled in 31 million in April
For the 50 millionth time, Hillary had at least 60% percent of the black vote locked up until her and dear hubby starting blowing the dog whistle in SC. I would tell you to research this on Google but I wouldn't want you to strain yourself.
And oh nobody really gives a fuck about WV and KY that's why those stupid racist mofos are down there starving and without jobs.
They're just to stupid to know Bill sold them down the river years ago all while he was smiling in their faces and Hillary's back to stick and smile in their faces.
I didn't see the Couric interview, but I heard that fake ass shout out.
If she's as smart as everybody says she is, she knows it's over with the black vote. I guess she'll have a few Tubbs-Jones, Rangel and Johnson.
We can show her better than we can tell her.
to lose her congressional seat. With that said---Tubbs Jones has every right to support Clinton, but when Hillary started the race baiting and out and out nod to the white point hood crowd she needed to take her black ass back to the hood and look at her constituents faces.
Anything for a job in D.C. huh Steph?!
As far as I'm concerned, she's toast . . . .
That Obama lost KY and WV. That's it.
Every time Obama loses, it's because of something not having to do with him. This week, its been race. The usual recurring theme.
It couldn't be that voters in WV and KY just didn't like his policies, could it?
She is probably the main one telling Ms. Anne that the 'negras will vote for you, now don't you worry. We'll just have a big rally in Harlem. I'll let 'em know that you and Bill will be coming back. They'll be right there.'
Side note: I am no fashionista, but will someone please tell her that the shiny dark blood-red lipstick/gloss is not becoming.
Though he is still a blowhard, his choice was a pragmatic choice. If she won, he was in. If she loses (which she is) he can say he stuck with her. His azzz had better campaign hard for Sen. Obama, or his seat may be in jeopardy also. From what I understand, Harlem ain't playin' with him.
Sheila Jackson-Lee and Maxine Waters? I don't begin to have a clue...
Hey, who believes that she really pulled in 22 million in April. My gut tells me that includes money for the General...about 20 million.
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Really Hilarious!! LOL!!
I am so sick of your dribble about nothing. Check the exit poll voting and other facts and come back with an argument.
I think all those dinosaurs should be voted out of office. Barack gave them an opportunity to rise to something great. They could have turned their backs on the old self-serving politics and made themselves relevant. But, they chose the low road. Does anyone believe they are capable of representing the new generation and guiding them through the 21st century?
I hate biblical allegory, but it makes me think of the parable of the bridegroom. The black leaders forgot what they were fighting for, got complacent and forgot to trim their lamps. When Barack showed up, they were asleep. They dismissed him as another Jesse or Al.
What happens with the next AA who dares to win...'cause you know they're coming! The virgins have got to go!
Point me to an exit poll from KY that shows that people didn't vote for Obama because of his race.
I'll wait.
Truth didn't say that, I did. Simply turn on a television.
He just asked Harold Ford to tell him about the election in TN (that he lost because the Repubs played on him liking white women) and how he told him the Brady effect was no more.
He's even smiling while he's asking.
He and Joe Scarborough are double teaming him.
DNA, he's demanding your undivided attention. Yeah, the talked about Barack's "problem" in the lastest slice of the Appalachian slide but Matthews flipped it on them. A HRC surrogate got the stutters when Matthews cited the 2 of 10 KY voters who said it was about "race" and got bent because, now, more than ever it's clear that its clear unadulterated racism that no one can ignore... So why is Hillary?
Matthews exact question was has Clinton spoken out against racism?
Of course, that's was one of them face-the-mirror (and look at your ugly azz) questions. No answer needed. STRIKE 3!!!
admit they won't vote for Barack because he is Black!
Obama can expand the traditional electoral college map by competing in GA, CO, NV, VA, MO, IND and perhaps NC all previous red states.
He went on a tirade about why Obama wasn't going to WV and KY and knocking on doors and begging this people to support him.
Harold Ford was speechless and looked embarrassed and Chris Matthews smirked.
I personally would not campaign in a racial territory where my opponent has primed the hatred.
Why? I would go where people might listen. I'm sure he has a plan to get voters without them.
I didn't say that, but I would suggest to you, that those people are not expert in economic matters. I would also suggest that the crabs in the barrel phenomenon extends across racial lines.
THOSE(poor whites) people think that liberal policies will benefit THOSE people(poor blacks)....but what the poor whites don't realize is that they're poor too!!!!
They prefer to identify with rich whites, and the economic ideology of rich whites...'cause white is supposed to mean rich! 'Cause the unthinkable alternative is identifying with poor blacks. It's class/race warfare.
Cha - ching!
It looks like Matthews is playing good and bad cop all by himself.
It's a good thing you wrapped that fantasy with the appropriate make-believe identifier... *IF*
*IF* that bs made sense.
*IF* there was such a moral equivalence.
*IF* there was comparable polling data.
1, 2, 3!! YOU'RE OUT!!!
Chopping brocolli...
Can't have an argument on the issues.
But whatever works for you all.
We've been over this before-- you are mistaken about what racism is. It is not racist for black people to vote Obama, just as it's not racist for white people to vote Clinton. Black voters identify with Obama and his unusual experiences as a black man in America, and he has reached out to them continually. Most black voters supporting Obama would likely have voted for Clinton as well, but with less enthusiasm as she doesn't share their life experiences and hasn't courted them in the same way. Obama gives an inner-city group his civil rights policy proposals; he has death-penalty reform and voters' rights on his record. He's their candidate in every way.
The racism comes in when people, including some (certainly not all) Clinton supporters, refuse to vote for Obama based on his race. Go look at the KY exit polls.
On the bottom of the very first page:
In a Clinton/McCain matchup for the general, 17% would vote McCain. Of those 17%, 53% voted for Clinton. That's over 9% of her votes in the primary that wouldn't choose her in the general.
On page 4: Was race of candidate important to you? 21% admit, yes. Of those, 81% voted for Clinton.
So I'm not saying that all voters in Kentucky are racist. Kentucky is a pretty nice place and I've never met a mean person from there.
But 17% of voters in the exit poll sample voted for Clinton at least partly because she is not black.
Why, on the front page, is there half-eaten Watermelon? Seems to me that would only perpetuate black stereotypes.
You must be one of those UNEDUCATED, hard-working Americans, white Americans whose to stupid to vote your pocketbook.
That's over 9% of her votes in the primary that wouldn't choose her in the general.
What I should have said was that over 9% of total voters picked her in the primary without intending to vote for her in the general. Of Clinton voters, that's nearly 14% [9/.66].
I regret the lack of clarity.
I am sorry JJP folk that I have to post anonymously--this is anon 6.34
These racist fucks are coming out of the wood work. In November, Old man McBush will get trounced, and hopefully Bob Barr will run and siphon votes in the south opening up some red states like GA, MS, and LA.
Since some of u idiot fucks are mostly low info voters, we will get a white person to go into some of those Appalachia districts and hint that he is REALLY in charge and hopefully enough of u will get fooled to keep your numbers down and sensible folks (new voters and the educated) will balance out the rest.
President Barack Obama, get used to it---two terms
I was watching 60 mins and this dude was on..he lost his job (NAFTA casualty) and is currently without health insurance. His wife has some terminal disease--dude was crying and when they asked him who he was going to vote for what did he say..
I LIKE what OBAMA says but I HEARD HE IS A MUSLIM and doesn't pray with the Bible...
Everyone listen up!
I heard that Barack Obama's wife is BLACK!!!!
YOU HEAR THAT BLACK!!!
No one has ever won President of the UNITED States without being married to a white woman!
Sinerely,
Hillary Clinton!
Now, on to the larger issue of race. I dont know if anyone caught the larger issue. That entire backwoods region from WV, KY, SOUTHERN-OH, AND beyond all white and rural have no intention of voting for a blackman. Theres no other way that can be spin. Complete strangers told pollsters overwhelmingly that race is an issue.
It's cool and refreshing, and delicious on a hot day!
no. puerto rico is slanted towards her.
Barack Obama won Louisville by almost 12,000 votes. Louisville is the small progressive mecca in Kentucky, where you will find a large (relatively) Black population, a thriving gay community, and a strong democratic base. We spoke up and said we wanted Obama. Yet Hilary decided to give her acceptance speech from here.
KY is my home but I am seldom proud of it when it comes to our votes. In 2004, we voted by 87% to ban gay marriage and virtually every other form of civil union, gay or not. If you travel outside of Louisville most people think Barack Obama is a Muslim and cannot be convinced otherwise. Those who don't think he's Muslim probably dislike him because he is Black - that's enough.
Exit polls suggest that KY voters feel Clinton represents their value - what values are you claiming Hilary? Because from living in Kentucky my whole life (25 years) I can tell you those values brought to the voting booth most often are racism, homophobia, and religious intolerance.
You should be very proud of your victory, Hilary.
But know this - here is one white woman who did not vote for you, and in my city, I are NOT alone.
You made me laugh out loud!
Hillary wins Klantucky --- Louisville needs to secede
Out fundraising Hillary by a ratio of 3-to-1, beating her 52 to 44% by 12,000 votes, our blue oasis in this red desert once again must suffer from being tied to this assbackward bullshit.
Yet in Orego, Barack split the white-working class and white female vote.
Just as Hillary Clinton's actions are only hurting her (campaign, reputation, etc.)
Our own anger and frustration will only hurt and impede us. Follow Obama's lead. This campaign is just getting started.
As Ghandi said "Be the change you wish to see in the world." In other words...
B(e) Obama
(Admittedly corny...but its how I feel.)
Thanks for giving us the insight about your hometown.
Nancy Pelosi is one of them.
I heard Chucky as well. Found it pretty interesting. Let's see what happens. But I have a good feeling they are going to come out for him. Unless, they get a $1 million bribe from one of that woman's supporters again.
I think sometimes you just post rhetorical questions or suppositions just to be argumentative. It does not really appear you are trying to engage in a substantive debate and offer a different perspective. Your comment regading which polls indicate voters are voting on race, well EVERY single one! It does not take a stastician to interpret the results. Let's see if I can break this down without the assistance of Chuck Todd. If the ONLY two democratic candidates positions and policies are rougly identical (most will stipulate they are), while the voters of KY and WV indicate that the reason they overwhelmingly voted for HRC is "because she shares their values" (in addition to race). However, these same voters have also indicated should she not be the Democratic nominee they will not vote for Obama. Hmmm. I think I will ask my own rhetorical question here. Which one of these candidates is different from the others?
I mean really, will McCaine suddenly represent their values?
@Ms. Martin,
Chris Matthews is pretty much being on point tonight. I wish he would behave like this more often. Equal opportunity a-hole.
they spread this shit and then wash their hands of their work.
Period.
CPL,
You were ON FIRE TONIGHT...LOL
I saw on SB that you noted that the one downside to Russell Feingold as VP was that he wasn't able to keep a wife.
I was thinking, does Webb being on his third wife disqualify him?
Or is it Feingold being SINGLE that knocks him out?
Here's a post about the Governor of Montana
Not to mention the fact, she actually thinks should they (DNC) give her the nomination, Blacks will line up to support her-- given all the race cards pulled by The Clintons.
That Clinton moved to New York state to start her campaign for the White House is even more telling, given what she has 'revealed as the true person" over these many months. After using Bill to enable her to rise to the top-- based on family ties only , she now claims her loss (campaign without inspiration) and fight is about sexism. What a joke! She is so power hungry I am sick. Only in Kentucky where literacy is a curse, could it be acceptable that two persons from the same family, and one in particular, is handed the presidency, because the rest of the 320 million Americans are so dumb. Talent and know-how remains with one group only.
Hillary will lose if she is selected as the nominee, and when again she runs in New York given what I have learned, she will be challenged. She is a poor example of a Democrat and should be allowed to be the VP for McCain.
Barak keep your distance-- the only way you may survive this onslaught.
I think you mixed me up with someone else regarding Feingold's potential as a VP. I don't think his being single is an issue, personally, cause half of Congress is on their second or third spouses.
Everything else you said is on the money. LOL
Andy,
You stated that the exit polls showed that the people from KY and WV were not just stupid but were mean and racist. Could have fooled me! Did you see the interview of Klay(Clay) Kounty(County) Kentucky? I hate to say it but those people I think actually appeared more ignorant than some of those in WV. Some said they had never voted b/c no one cares about them and they are never gonna have anything. One woman's income was $700 per mo!! Her son ( I think) who lived with her could not get a job b/c he didnt have GAS to get to an interview! They said they don't ever remember a presidential nominee visiting them EVER. Said they will always be broke and it didn't appear that any of that group would even vote at all!!
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All I know is when Webb was campaigning in Virginia, he made sure to hide his pregnant Asian wife until after he won. LOL
For the record, I don't think anyone's marital status should disqualify someone from the Presidency. Haven't we had some bachelor presidents in the past?