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Anonymous — Wed, 21 May 2008 11:17:00 -0000

I was thinking, does Webb being on his third wife disqualify him?
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All I know is when Webb was campaigning in Virginia, he made sure to hide his pregnant Asian wife until after he won. LOL

For the record, I don't think anyone's marital status should disqualify someone from the Presidency. Haven't we had some bachelor presidents in the past?

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Against Race Politics — Wed, 21 May 2008 10:25:00 -0000

There was something else I found interesting about the exit polls other than 2 out of 10 people admitted to total strangers in the exit polls that race was an issue for them and they voted for Obama (what about the ones too "Christian to admit the truth??) is that those same people were polled and a vast majority of people in WV and Kentucky admitted that they felt that Obama WOULD be the nominee so to me that suggests they obviously voted AGAINST Obama.

Andy,

You stated that the exit polls showed that the people from KY and WV were not just stupid but were mean and racist. Could have fooled me! Did you see the interview of Klay(Clay) Kounty(County) Kentucky? I hate to say it but those people I think actually appeared more ignorant than some of those in WV. Some said they had never voted b/c no one cares about them and they are never gonna have anything. One woman's income was $700 per mo!! Her son ( I think) who lived with her could not get a job b/c he didnt have GAS to get to an interview! They said they don't ever remember a presidential nominee visiting them EVER. Said they will always be broke and it didn't appear that any of that group would even vote at all!!

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The Christian Progressive Libe — Wed, 21 May 2008 09:25:00 -0000

Rikyrah:

I think you mixed me up with someone else regarding Feingold's potential as a VP. I don't think his being single is an issue, personally, cause half of Congress is on their second or third spouses.

Everything else you said is on the money. LOL

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andyfrombrooklyn — Wed, 21 May 2008 07:36:00 -0000

disguted, according to exit polls the people of kentucky/west virginia are not stupid, just mean and racist.

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Disgusted — Wed, 21 May 2008 03:03:00 -0000

The joke about this Clinton 'saga of wins' in Kentuky and W. Virginia-- these people are supposedly so under educated that they probably still think the ability to read and write well, is a curse. That Clinton would use those as her base to lead this country is simply astounding.

Not to mention the fact, she actually thinks should they (DNC) give her the nomination, Blacks will line up to support her-- given all the race cards pulled by The Clintons.

That Clinton moved to New York state to start her campaign for the White House is even more telling, given what she has 'revealed as the true person" over these many months. After using Bill to enable her to rise to the top-- based on family ties only , she now claims her loss (campaign without inspiration) and fight is about sexism. What a joke! She is so power hungry I am sick. Only in Kentucky where literacy is a curse, could it be acceptable that two persons from the same family, and one in particular, is handed the presidency, because the rest of the 320 million Americans are so dumb. Talent and know-how remains with one group only.

Hillary will lose if she is selected as the nominee, and when again she runs in New York given what I have learned, she will be challenged. She is a poor example of a Democrat and should be allowed to be the VP for McCain.

Barak keep your distance-- the only way you may survive this onslaught.

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rikyrah — Wed, 21 May 2008 01:44:00 -0000

CPL,

Here's a post about the Governor of Montana

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rikyrah — Wed, 21 May 2008 01:10:00 -0000

CPL,

I saw on SB that you noted that the one downside to Russell Feingold as VP was that he wasn't able to keep a wife.

I was thinking, does Webb being on his third wife disqualify him?

Or is it Feingold being SINGLE that knocks him out?

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andyfrombrooklyn — Wed, 21 May 2008 01:05:00 -0000

elephants and flowers, you are right. yet the lies about the popular vote metric are damaging and must be vigorously contested on the merits.

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rikyrah — Wed, 21 May 2008 00:08:00 -0000

Black folk need to take care of the Clinton Negroes.

Period.

CPL,

You were ON FIRE TONIGHT...LOL

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BigAssBelle — Wed, 21 May 2008 00:05:00 -0000

with that nitwit andrea mitchell on there all wide-eyed and innocent, asking how on earth kentucky voters would think to say that the repetition of HUSSEIN! HUSSEIN! HUSSEIN! was a problem. and where could they possibly have gotten that from? must have been from those terrible internet sites.

they spread this shit and then wash their hands of their work.

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honey01 — Tue, 20 May 2008 23:36:00 -0000

@ D,

I think sometimes you just post rhetorical questions or suppositions just to be argumentative. It does not really appear you are trying to engage in a substantive debate and offer a different perspective. Your comment regading which polls indicate voters are voting on race, well EVERY single one! It does not take a stastician to interpret the results. Let's see if I can break this down without the assistance of Chuck Todd. If the ONLY two democratic candidates positions and policies are rougly identical (most will stipulate they are), while the voters of KY and WV indicate that the reason they overwhelmingly voted for HRC is "because she shares their values" (in addition to race). However, these same voters have also indicated should she not be the Democratic nominee they will not vote for Obama. Hmmm. I think I will ask my own rhetorical question here. Which one of these candidates is different from the others?

I mean really, will McCaine suddenly represent their values?

@Ms. Martin,

Chris Matthews is pretty much being on point tonight. I wish he would behave like this more often. Equal opportunity a-hole.

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texas girl in l.a. — Tue, 20 May 2008 23:36:00 -0000

ms. martin,

I heard Chucky as well. Found it pretty interesting. Let's see what happens. But I have a good feeling they are going to come out for him. Unless, they get a $1 million bribe from one of that woman's supporters again.

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Ms.Martin — Tue, 20 May 2008 23:31:00 -0000

Good to hear from you Lucielu and good to know you support Obama.

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Ms.Martin — Tue, 20 May 2008 23:29:00 -0000

Chuck Todd just said 118 of 212 uncommitted superdelegates are from states Obama won.

Nancy Pelosi is one of them.

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texas girl in l.a. — Tue, 20 May 2008 23:28:00 -0000

Great to hear from you Lucielu!

Thanks for giving us the insight about your hometown.

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Elephants&Flowers — Tue, 20 May 2008 23:23:00 -0000

Be Careful and Conscious!

Just as Hillary Clinton's actions are only hurting her (campaign, reputation, etc.)

Our own anger and frustration will only hurt and impede us. Follow Obama's lead. This campaign is just getting started.

As Ghandi said "Be the change you wish to see in the world." In other words...

B(e) Obama

(Admittedly corny...but its how I feel.)

Re: WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS?

Phillip M. Bailey — Tue, 20 May 2008 23:16:00 -0000

Let me back up my fellow Louisvillian, lucielu.

Hillary wins Klantucky --- Louisville needs to secede

Out fundraising Hillary by a ratio of 3-to-1, beating her 52 to 44% by 12,000 votes, our blue oasis in this red desert once again must suffer from being tied to this assbackward bullshit.

Yet in Orego, Barack split the white-working class and white female vote.

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justice58 — Tue, 20 May 2008 23:08:00 -0000

dermar,

You made me laugh out loud!

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LucieLu — Tue, 20 May 2008 23:06:00 -0000

I am a religious JJP reader as well as a Kentuckian, although I prefer to identify myself with my city, Louisville.

Barack Obama won Louisville by almost 12,000 votes. Louisville is the small progressive mecca in Kentucky, where you will find a large (relatively) Black population, a thriving gay community, and a strong democratic base. We spoke up and said we wanted Obama. Yet Hilary decided to give her acceptance speech from here.

KY is my home but I am seldom proud of it when it comes to our votes. In 2004, we voted by 87% to ban gay marriage and virtually every other form of civil union, gay or not. If you travel outside of Louisville most people think Barack Obama is a Muslim and cannot be convinced otherwise. Those who don't think he's Muslim probably dislike him because he is Black - that's enough.

Exit polls suggest that KY voters feel Clinton represents their value - what values are you claiming Hilary? Because from living in Kentucky my whole life (25 years) I can tell you those values brought to the voting booth most often are racism, homophobia, and religious intolerance.

You should be very proud of your victory, Hilary.

But know this - here is one white woman who did not vote for you, and in my city, I are NOT alone.

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Ms.Martin — Tue, 20 May 2008 23:03:00 -0000

Is Obama including FL and MI as they stand in the majority delegate count?

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Ms.Martin — Tue, 20 May 2008 23:01:00 -0000

They called Oregon for Obama and the polls just closed.

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texas girl in l.a. — Tue, 20 May 2008 22:59:00 -0000

ms. martin,

no. puerto rico is slanted towards her.

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Ms.Martin — Tue, 20 May 2008 22:57:00 -0000

Is KY the last state that's polled to go for Clinton?

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TruthSeeker — Tue, 20 May 2008 22:40:00 -0000

Hey! I looove me some watermelon!!

It's cool and refreshing, and delicious on a hot day!

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smoothie — Tue, 20 May 2008 22:34:00 -0000

I from houston orignally, I can tell yall with absolute certainty that S-Jack.Lee will not keep that seat in 2010. She'll hold on to it now b/c she blasted the other dem running agaist her away in the primary (his. and white guys with no chance of carrying her district)

Now, on to the larger issue of race. I dont know if anyone caught the larger issue. That entire backwoods region from WV, KY, SOUTHERN-OH, AND beyond all white and rural have no intention of voting for a blackman. Theres no other way that can be spin. Complete strangers told pollsters overwhelmingly that race is an issue.