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According to this article on the Newsday site:
http://www.newsday.com/news/local/ny-limill1228b,0,1970542.story?track=rss
Al sharpton is organizing a demonstration to be held on Jan. 5 outside the courthouse where the trial was held.
But, people need to fill the void. Step up and do something. Whether its spreading the word through blogging or working in communities, people should be doing SOMETHING.
But, *sigh* most aren't- as always the few do the work and the majority sit back and criticize, tell them to shut up and be happy with what they have, don't make the man uncomfortable and angry, or wallowing in pity.
Ive read enough of your posts and all to know you're true Rikyrah but we all know the leaders will only do so much and even if they want to do it all 100% how we like it they can't.
When we stop looking for them rather genuinely or out of criticism and start doing things ourselves we'll be better off.
How about we give more support to the local hands-on everyday community activist groups instead of just the national ones?
Sharpton said the actions of two jurors, Francois Larche and Donna Marshak, "call into question the conviction." Larche said he felt improperly rushed to finish deliberations before the Christmas holiday, and Marshak told Newsday that Larche "wasn't the only holdout." Marshak said yesterday that she was "not convinced beyond a reasonable doubt that he was guilty."
Why wasn't Sharpton's comment placed AFTER the two jurors, to give the two jurors comments more strength? Those two jurors are the real story, not Sharpton's involvement in yet another march. Even in a story about Sharpton, those jurors comments need more play.
Also, it'd be nice to know with whom Sharpton is marching, if he was asked to march by the long community, or if he involved himself and is dragging the local community along for the ride. Those aren't in the story, either.
The world needs more decent neutral journalists. By the way, what's been happening in Texas between Quanell X and the New Black Panther Party, Jesse and Al, the two Latinos who look black, and the Mexican-American community in regards to the Horn case? If the answer is 'nothing', that's a greater shame.
I'm all about the 2nd Amendment (though it doesn't YET apply here in DC). Seems to me that if someone comes up to you while you're holding a gun, slaps it, and the gun goes off, that's pretty reckless control of your weapon. Manslaughter seems appropriate. Flipside to the argument is that he shot the man intentionally. Either way, something criminal happened.
Crime is crime, and just because someone called you a nigger, that doesn't-or maybe, "shouldn't" is the better word-mitigate your responsibilities under the law.
Crime is crime, and just because someone called you a nigger, that doesn't-or maybe, "shouldn't" is the better word-mitigate your responsibilities under the law.
Crime is crime, eh? If so, then there were likely a string of crimes committed by the gang of thugs before Mr. White even drew his weapon. And when in the heat of a volitile situation, the last thing that the reasonable person is going to do is consider the nuance of this statute or that one.
I'm in agreement with rikyrah, to the extent that a white man at his own home, being racially threatened by a gang of Black thugs -- and who fired on one of said nigras after he slapped at or reached for the man's gun -- would have likely not been charged with manslaughter.
Now, I understand that an unarmed person was shot, and that the shooter did may not have retreated into his home. That makes a self-defense case difficult (depending on the state law). But in this part of New York, I think we know with confidence that a white man wouldn't have been convicted. He likely wouldn't have even been charged.
So where's the NRA? The pro-2nd Amendment crowd? The law and order crowd?
I'm not knocking his actions. I'd do the same thing...except I'd retain enough control of myself NOT to pull the trigger just because someone slapped my gun or reached for it.
Essentially (and I'm rehashing this in my blog), it's part of the Jena 6 story in reverse. Except this time, it's one of us who pulled the trigger.
And this is where the pro-gun lobby would ordinarly step in and explain how none of us are guaranteed protection by law enforcement. In fact, I think there's a court case that they've been touting that speaks to the very issue of law enforcement being even less responsible for your safety than ever before.
Now, I'm not going to say that Mr. White shouldn't have retreated into his home, and called 911. I'm saying that it's hard to know where one's line of personal safety begins and ends with one's own responsibility for same. I know that in TX, you have the right to shoot someone in self-defense, even if they're not technically "in" your house. But I wouldn't know what Georgia's law is. Or New York's for that matter. Let alone all of the case precedent out there.
This is why I'm crying foul. A Black man draws his weapon and shoots a threatening trespassor on his property. Arrested, tried and convicted in the ordinary course of business.
A white man draws his weapon and shoots one of several threatening Black trespassors on his property. Investigation, grand jury, non-indictment, hero status.
Here's why I'm not crying foul: unless there's a reversed situation out there (which there may well be), then race doesn't-or again, maybe "shouldn't" play into this. Mr. White shot somebody. Period. And no reasonable person is going to equate getting slapped with a threat to life.
Mr. White could well have been charged with murder. Maybe we shouldn't complain about this one...
And he has the nerve to say: "My thoughts go out to the loved ones of the deceased.” through his attorney.
If the laws are the same in TX and NY and Horn doens't get convicted (they are still investigating....) what does that say?
We already know that the CBC slept on the job regarding this incident. The man probably is a constituent of either Greg Meeks, Yvette Clarke, Ed Townes or Charlie Rangel.
And we also know that we'll hear crickets chirping at this man being railroaded by a nearly all-white jury; this is shades of what Randal Miller-El fought all the way to the Supreme Court and won in an 8-1 decision about how Dallas County DAs were rigging juries by placing as many white boys and girls on the jury as they could seat - which was a prime motivation to imprison as many Black defendants as they could, regardless of the evidence.
This country better get ready for revolution up in this bitch, because the young people aren't going to stand for it. Book it.
And with my old behind, I'll be fighting right along with them - starting with asking where the hell the CBC has been on issues like this, since they're screaming they can do something about them.
The new CBCMonitor Report Card will be out by the State of the Union Address (aka Bush's Biggest Lies). Watch for who will get the tage of "Worst CongressPerson Ever"...
The two instances aren't related.
The two instances aren't related.
And this man and his family didn't feel an imminent threat on their lives and property?
Co-Sign.
A group of young White thugs, screaming NIGGER at you...isn't a threat if you're a Black person?
Get out of here.
In what world, would a Black person NOT consider that a possible threat on themselves and their family?
Certainly not here in America.
Well, I shouldn't have to lock my front door at night. But reality dictates otherwise. As such, race DOES play into most aspects of American life.
Now, you don't think a group of white boys threatingly calling me NIGGER on my own property rises to the level of force. But what if the "slap" at your gun, knocked it from your hand and now one of these guys has it, and is still talking about NIGGER this and NIGGER that? Now you got a problem. Whatcha gon' do, Rich?
Well, you'd do the same thing that off-duty cop/Joe Bag-O-Donuts would have done. Some moolie fronts him up -- at his own crib -- Joe gets his 9, and Pookie tries to slap it out of his hand. Pookie gets blasted and Joe has to fill out some paperwork and other assorted inconveniences. But ain't nobody trippin' on the conservative side of town (yeah, that includes the DA's office). After all, law-abiding citizens are fed up with the arrogance and brazen-ness of these criminals today.
At that point, I go back in the house and call the cops.
Rikyrah,
Are you now suggesting that freedom of speech-regardless of how reprehensible-constitutes a threat to life?
Are you now suggesting that freedom of speech-regardless of how reprehensible-constitutes a threat to life?
If it's one racist yelling NIGGER...that's one thing.
A group of young White Thugs, decades younger than this man, Yelling NIGGER and threatening his child?
With the history of THIS country?
Damn right, it's a threat on my life, and I'm afraid FOR any Black person that doesn't feel that way.
He told the operator to kiss off and went over to the neighbor's house, guns a'blazin'. Where was he threatened in anyway, shape or form? His neighbor was being robbed; NOT HIM.
Mr. White was confronted by a mob, who could have pipe bombed his house, or shot it up; what was he supposed to do?
And no, those crackers known as the NRA, will be as silent on this as they are loud whenever their constitutional rights to bear arms are threatened. Give me a break here...
You see, the Second Amendment to the Constitution was never conceived as a law that would give Blacks the right to defend themselves against whites. Whites know this so instinctively and intuitively that they are not even concerned that the First Amendment could give Blacks the right to keep and bear arms. They KNOW that the Second Amendment doesn't apply to us, and no court will decide that it does.
Free white male citizens in some slaveholding areas, regardless of whether they owned property, were subject to be drafted into the slave patrols a certain number of days per year, or called upon to join Injun hunting expeditions of the kind that George Washington and later Andy Jackson made famous. The founding fathers in their wisdom, needed a federal law to ensure that no state took away the guns owned by free white men which were needed for that purpose. That is why we have the 2nd amendment.
That's it and that's all.
Daniel Cicciaro made death threats, and he didn't attempt to send them telepathically, either. He communicated them loud and clear.