DISQUS

Jack and Jill Politics: Worried about SuperDelegates Hijacking Democracy?

  • Jack Turner · 1 year ago
    this is not surprising but it is oh so disappointing. if the movement obama seems to be leading/riding/leveraging is real, we won't allow this to happen.


    clinton lacks anything in the way of grace, and it's so obvious that if she were to lose pledged delegates, she could do wonders for the battle against the GOP if she lined up behind O's campaign



    i really hope this attitude of hers destroys her though. how can you already plan and announce that you will live in denial? it's too ugly for the kid.
  • Baldwin Park Democrat · 1 year ago
    This would be a major mistake and would alienate a lot of Democratic voters. I'm in Florida and I voted for Obama - BUT many may not have gone to the polls believing that their vote didn't count. To now seat these delegates based on an incomplete and unfair vote would be terrible. Either hold another primary/caucus or hold to the original agreement. Howard Dean (for whom I voted in 2004 primary) and the state party leaders have really messed this up.


    K-Dawg

    http://baldwinparkdemocrat.blogspot.com/
  • The Christian Progressive Libe · 1 year ago
    I heard a Democratic consultant on Anderson Cooper say last night that if the popular vote went for Obama, but Clinton takes it because of those superdelgates, there will be a revolt that will literally kill the Democratic Party, and he's right.


    I just wish the media would quit givin airtime to handkerchief heads like Amy Holmes...cause she's a house Negress to the nth degree.



    Hillary's determination to get the nomination at all costs will finally tear the wool off everyone's eyes and teach them that no friendship or acquaintance is sacred - you will get slung under the bus if you get in their way. Never mind that her determination keeps the White House in ReThug hands for another eight years - she will never think of what's good for the party - her own husband created the DLC, which shows us as far back as 1985, the Clintons were all about the Clintons. They just did a good job of keeping it covered up.



    But Hillary's losing streak is exposing the ugliness that is their makeup and nothing will change that if she keeps it up.
  • D. · 1 year ago
    The democrats can't even get their own party together...but they want to run the country. Kinda sad, actually....
  • submariner · 1 year ago
    If you heard Barack's victory speech in Wisconsin on Tuesday night you heard him mention John McCain but say nothing about Hillary Clinton or superdelegates. The nomination is his and he knows it. The superdelegate issue makes for interesting hypotheticals and adds some drama but it's highly improbable if not impossible. Such an act would make the Dems as extinct as the Whigs.


    Hillary will lose Ohio and Pennsylvania. She is likely to be defeated in Texas. She is using the Giuliani strategy and counting on Texas to come through for her. But she fails to realize that with each successive contest her losses are magnified. Instead of losing by 5 points she is beginning to lose by 20 to 30. Hillary is fighting for survival and respect.



    The best move would be a gracious departure as described by Jack Turner below. However, after Virginia the outcome is certain. The upcoming races don't take place in a vacuum. The people see the pattern and sense the mandate that Obama is gaining. Assuming that you're in the 20 to 40 age range this is what it's like to be caught up in a movement. There is an energy and purpose which is not to be denied. The Obama campaign is the beneficiary but not the source. That is what Clinton, the black political leadership, and popular media don't recognize. They would be better off wearing galoshes and carrying an umbrella in a tsunami.
  • Angela · 1 year ago
    With Obama's wins we cannot become complacent. I just read that Clintons people are now trying the kind of phone banking Obama has been so successful and they are stealing the "yes we can" chant as their own. Also, got an email that 1000 people showed up in Columbus, OH for their 1st meeting for local volunteers, which is great. Keep on phone banking if you can't travel....just go to Obama's website.
  • Gregory · 1 year ago
    Bill Clinton says caucus goers don't need a president. Yes, he said that.


    Read about it at DailyKos:

    http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/2/14/122351/425/949/456703



    What about the caucuses that Hillary won, like Nevada (and apparently New Mexico)?
  • Webb · 1 year ago
    Let's not be distracted by this superdelegate issue...let's focus on the immediate battles ahead...WI, TX and OH.


    The Clintons know that their legacy could end on 3/4/2008...the only hope they have is claiming their opponent offers false hopes and placing fear in people's hearts.



    When given a choice between fear or hope, I will always take HOPE.
  • Anonymous · 1 year ago
    Just like the Republican she is, by hook or crook, that job is mine, and, even though I would never vote for her, if she follows through with this, I will vote for McCain.
  • Anonymous · 1 year ago
    Did anyone see the Republican melt down today? They actually walked out of the House Chamber so they would have to vote on the Contempt of Congress vote for Bolton and Miers. Can you believe this is the same party that impeached Bill Clinton for trying to conceal an affair? The silly Republicans also scheduled a protest vote during Rep. Lantos memorial service.
  • Anonymous · 1 year ago
    John Lewis has switched from supporting Clinton to Obama:


    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/15/us/politics/15clinton.html?ref=politics&pagewanted;=print